AFL coaches think Shane Edwards is a better footballer than Cyril Rioli

[mxett]

I think Cyril is still better but by gosh Edwards certainly towelled us up on Saturday

 

[SdKfz 181]

Two completely different players, should not compare.

 

[living_in_syd]

already knew before i opened the thread it would be started by a richmond supporter ffs.

 

[Fyfetheknife]

Why compare to Cyril? Very silly iyam

 

[Jonno94]

He's almost as good as Jack Crisp.

 

[blaisee]

I agree Edwards is underrated and Cyril is if not overrated at least over hyped by the media.

That said Cyril is still the better player.

Why?

On what measure other than reputation?

 

[blaisee]

Cyril doesn't need stats, watch the game he is immense whenever he's near the footy.
Edwards has become our smartest ball user forward of the wing no doubt and his hands are something else but he doesn't strike fear into the opposition like Cyril does when he's near the footy.

Fear ? Who are you Bruce Mcavaney?

 

[blaisee]

Cyril is a beast. You would be pretty nervous if you had ball in hand with him in the vicinity, you just know the tackle is coming.

One of the few players that can change a game off his own boot.

but Edwards tackles more, much more

 

[blaisee]

Goal Assists:
13 Cyril Rioli (2nd best in the AFL)
6 Shane Edwards (52nd best in the AFL)

Score involvements:
68 Cyril Rioli (12th best in the AFL)
47 Shane Edwards (92nd best in the AFL)

Tackles inside fifty:
15 Cyril Rioli (8th best in the AFL)
8 Shane Edwards (54th best in the AFL)

Goals plus Assists:
25 Cyril Rioli (15th best in the AFL)
12 Shane Edwards (82nd best in the AFL)

He gets tackles inside fifty because he isn't good enough to play in the middle of the ground.

 

[Richo Man]

Shane Edwards is the greatest human to ever step foot in this earth. Discuss.

 

[Cynic]

Why?

On what measure other than reputation?

Skill, ability and impact on games?

 

[blaisee]

Don't do this to me tiger fans. Look, Edwards is a good player, and his handballing is great. He's become as important to Richmond's midfield as Cotchin, Deledio, Miles, Martin and Ellis are. He's not the dud that people used to think he was.

But Rioli is a more skilled player with more output. If Rioli stayed fit every season people wouldn't bag him so much.

Output?

What output?

disposals, tackles, marks. contested possessions, uncontested possessions, centre clearances its all Edwards

 

[Cynic]

He gets tackles inside fifty because he isn't good enough to play in the middle of the ground.

And onto the ignore list you go

 

[Brad Goodman]

Cyril could have zero touches and still have a good game (according to the media and Hawthorn supporters), let's see Edwards do that.

 

[blaisee]

Two completely different players, should not compare.

make your own OP and compare whoever YOU like

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

but Edwards tackles more, much more

not like Cyril.

Rioli >>>> Edwards.

 

[blaisee]

Cyril could have zero touches and still have a good game (according to the media and Hawthorn supporters), let's see Edwards do that.

absolutely spot on

 

[Blackas87]

He gets tackles inside fifty because he isn't good enough to play in the middle of the ground.

Different roles mate, Rioli is in the top shelf of players that play the same role, Edwards has plenty of other Midfielders ahead of him.

Is Edwards a better player than Rance because he isn't good enough to get a game in the midfield?

 

[blaisee]

not like Cyril.

Rioli >>>> Edwards.

hard to argue with that

 

[blaisee]

Skill, ability and impact on games?

ability?

ability to actually get the ball ?
in a contest ?
Outside a contest ?

impact on games?

Have you actually ever watched Shane Edwards play? Because it doesn't sound like it

 

[blaisee]

Different roles mate, Rioli is in the top shelf of players that play the same role, Edwards has plenty of other Midfielders ahead of him.

Is Edwards a better player than Rance because he isn't good enough to get a game in the midfield?

What I am saying is if Rioli is such a great goalkicker, why dosnt he kick more goals.

He sure isn't being trusted to play on the ball, that's for sure

I am comparing them because they are of a similar age, weight and height and have a similar number of games

They are also both indigenous and while one is a media darling ( Rioli ) the other ( Edwards ) has been flying under the radar and has been IMHO a more effective and a more reliable footballer.

 

[Richo83]

Output?

What output?

disposals, tackles, marks. contested possessions, uncontested possessions, centre clearances its all Edwards

Goals, goal assists, pressure acts, disposal efficiency, one percenters etc.

ability?

ability to actually get the ball ?
in a contest ?
Outside a contest ?

impact on games?

Have you actually ever watched Shane Edwards play? Because it doesn't sound like it

Dude, don't do this. Rioli is the definition of an impact player and has been for his whole career, Edwards has really only become a gun in the past two years or so.

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

hard to argue with that

Never watched a game against Richmond and thought "christ, hope Edwards doesn't cut us open". like I have before a hawks game.

Nothing wrong with Edwards, fine player, but not in the same league.

 

[Pessimistic]

I generally accept that eddie betts is a more prolific scorer than cyril roil, but adelaide really needed some impact in the last quarter on saturday, and though eddie provided plent of effort, he didnt provide the impact cyril or even shane might have

 

[blaisee]

Goals, goal assists, pressure acts, disposal efficiency, one percenters etc.



Dude, don't do this. Rioli is the definition of an impact player and has been for his whole career, Edwards has really only become a gun in the past two years or so.

impact player must mean, doesn't get it much as far as Cyril goes.

Dangerfield is an impact player, so is Fyfe, it doesn't stop them getting the ball 30 times a game