Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2024 - Live from 6:45pm Wednesday 20th November!

[Nuggs Bunny]

When is the draft
Coverage on the AFL website starts at 6:45pm on Wednesday 20th November, tune in on FoxFooty and Kayo from 7pm

How can I watch?
AFL website through the Draft Hub or through your Kayo or FoxFooty subscription

What are our picks?
Check out Lore's 2024 draft spreadsheet below

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order

Who is looking good this year?
Cal Twomey's Top 30 Phantom Draft
Essendon Draft Preview from Rookie Me Central

 

[Skipper_]

After their presidents comments at their B and F I would be amazed if the Saints dont bid on both Lombard and Kako.

Twomey’s final Phantom has them bidding on both so it’s more than possible, if not likely.

 

[jdstorm]

The reason we had to trade out is because we couldn’t afford to trade up. By getting points, multiple 2nds and F1 we basically got 3FRP for 1

Sucks that we’ve had to trade out of this draft to chase value due to the lacklustre state of the list but we will do that twice more (pick 28 and pick 32)

While loading up with picks in the 40s and hoping for a good outcome. Only smart way forward this season.

 

[fairbump_playon]

The reason we had to trade out is because we couldn’t afford to trade up. By getting points, multiple 2nds and F1 we basically got 3FRP for 1

Sucks that we’ve had to trade out of this draft to chase value due to the lacklustre state of the list but we will do that twice more (pick 28 and pick 32)

While loading up with picks in the 40s and hoping for a good outcome. Only smart way forward this season.

3 FRPs for either 2 or 3

 

[jdstorm]

3 FRPs for either 2 or 3

With Kako expected to be pick 10 that will allow us to match his points with 3 picks in the 40s.

So essentially 1 FRP = 3 picks in the 40s which is a bargain. Which we will be able to acquire by splitting our 2nd rounders (1 from Melb) and likely get future 2nds from other teams for the trouble. So basically free.

So after draft trading we should have Kako, Melb F1 (or a player we really like this year) plus two F2s to go along with our own 2nd which will allow us to trade up for another first given the new points curve (or out if we don’t like the draft)

With Future firsts available to trade we could use up to 5 next year to try and bring in A+ talent.

Potentially an extra if Draper leaves via FA and gets band 2 or higher

 

[dank420_]

Some yound lads are going to tug their very first sash tonight. Brings a tear to the eye.

 

[faible]

Some yound lads are going to tug their very first sash tonight. Brings a tear to the eye.

Though it certainly won't be their first tug

 

[dank420_]

Though it certainly won't be their first tug

Is that why Parish has a Ben Cousins poster on the wall?

 

[Agronomus]

I think people on this site need to accept cox is not going to make it.
He is physically frail and picks and chooses when to compete.

He doesn't have a specific spot and probably isn't happy here. Maybe get him to tassie?

 

[crackers65]

He doesn't have a specific spot and probably isn't happy here. Maybe get him to tassie?

Why would tassie want him? They are called the Tassie devils, not the Tassie soft *****.

 

[TheUnicorn]

 

[jdstorm]

Anyone see ESPNs full mock.

Aparently we trade out of 28 For Norths F2 end up with Archer Day Wicks, Gerren and Barrat in the 40s/50s + Kako and Nguyen

Edit: personally think there were better fits at those spots then Barrat + Gerrin (also would be suprised if they last that far)

North Have pick 56 as well I think Essendon would want that pick included in any trade for 28 then can trade up with 50+ 56 into the mid 40s

 

[ant555]

Trading out 9 was a gamble. I know it gives us more flexibility but would we have done it if we were sure we could use 9 and still get Kako?

Probably not

I think the Dees’ first will be around 9 next year so in a way we picked up some free points for Kako

But I’ll be annoyed if we take Kako in the mid teens and then use an F1 (ours or Melbourne’s) to trade back in for someone in the late teens or early 20s

That would be the definition of a failed strategy / lack of willingness to hold our nerve

Who would be left at 9 is the question. Could well be two or three of the 180cm midfielders. Seems like Lalor and Langford will go top 8.
I agree I am not a fan of spending too much to trade back in.

 

[ant555]

I think people on this site need to accept cox is not going to make it.
He is physically frail and picks and chooses when to compete.

Agree. I rated him a bit as a possible intercept defender but the lesson for me was not enough sample size to make a definitive decision.
He simply has to find a competitive edge. He will not have a KP body and right now as you say he is selective as far as competing goes. I think it is mainly due to no confidence in the body and getting hurt but that is what he has to deal with.

 

[Nifft]

Agree. I rated him a bit as a possible intercept defender but the lesson for me was not enough sample size to make a definitive decision.
He simply has to find a competitive edge. He will not have a KP body and right now as you say he is selective as far as competing goes. I think it is mainly due to no confidence in the body and getting hurt but that is what he has to deal with.

Maybe he was played in the seniors too soon? He's around the same height as Reid and Bryan, and everyone says the taller players take more time to physically mature.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Who would be left at 9 is the question. Could well be two or three of the 180cm midfielders. Seems like Lalor and Langford will go top 8.
I agree I am not a fan of spending too much to trade back in.

Yep you can assume they didn't expect names at 9 that they thought it worth rolling the dice on

Or maybe they had strong signals there will be an earlier than expected Kako bid

 

[jdstorm]

Yep you can assume they didn't expect names at 9 that they thought it worth rolling the dice on

Or maybe they had strong signals there will be an earlier than expected Kako bid

Given Melbourne wanted the pick they could have just bid on him at 5 to screw us

 

[King Patty]

I think people on this site need to accept cox is not going to make it.
He is physically frail and picks and chooses when to compete.

I still hold hope for Cox.
He has one thing, he used to be a athletic beast, he can get back there.
No reason why he can't play like Blicavs. Just needs to get stronger so can play KPP and ruck and rover and wing and other roles. also needs a bit more fire in him, hit contests hard. He got reported early in his first year for dangerous tackle, needs to bring that aggression back now he has some size.

what position - utility on interchange or sub. He's not in my best 22 now, but finish top 5 in the 2km time trial and would slot him on the pine.

 

[King Patty]

My hopes for the draft
KAKO
shanahan or Harry Armstrong- trade up.
Hannaford - slider hoping in third round
Nguyen - late match or rookie
maybe Rookie Will Hayes

40

Will Hayes

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.4

3star

- tested well agility and 2km time trial
Gabriel Stumpf - how can a 196cm guy be the quickest over 20m. Plus best vertical leap, worth a shot late in draft.
There seems to be a lot of guys in the 194-198cm range that could go in the third round and be busts or gems if could develop.

 

[Keystone agony]

Anyone see ESPNs full mock.

Aparently we trade out of 28 For Norths F2 end up with Archer Day Wicks, Gerren and Barrat in the 40s/50s + Kako and Nguyen

Edit: personally think there were better fits at those spots then Barrat + Gerrin (also would be suprised if they last that far)

North Have pick 56 as well I think Essendon would want that pick included in any trade for 28 then can trade up with 50+ 56 into the mid 40s

ESPN is just guesswork

Most of these guys dont have access to recruiters or player agents

Norths F2 does make some sense though for 28 or 31

Id be eyeing Cats F1 with 28 and F2 or F3 if possible. They may over pay, but do they do it before they know whos there. Latest mocks from Twomey havnt shown Dodaon there so maybe hes a very good chance to get to thoae picks

 

[Call Me Cake]

Everyone says the taller players take more time to physically mature.

 

[Keystone agony]

Even looking at Cox again returning this PS, he looks to have added very little weight. Just aint happening for him in thst regard

 

[Keystone agony]

Adelaides list manager has Kako inside the 4-7 prospect range in this draft. As good as any small forward hes seen come through recently

 

[jdstorm]

ESPN is just guesswork

Most of these guys dont have access to recruiters or player agents

Norths F2 does make some sense though for 28 or 31

Id be eyeing Cats F1 with 28 and F2 or F3 if possible. They may over pay, but do they do it before they know whos there. Latest mocks from Twomey havnt shown Dodaon there so maybe hes a very good chance to get to thoae picks

I would be very suprised if Geelong would give up F1 for pick 28 (32 after matches) with only 10 picks off the board. Assuming Kako gets bid by the saints.

Just a plain F2 and maybe some points is a lot less to give up and I think teams would take their chances

 

[bombreys]

The reason we had to trade out is because we couldn’t afford to trade up. By getting points, multiple 2nds and F1 we basically got 3FRP for 1

Sucks that we’ve had to trade out of this draft to chase value due to the lacklustre state of the list but we will do that twice more (pick 28 and pick 32)

While loading up with picks in the 40s and hoping for a good outcome. Only smart way forward this season.

3? Where is the third coming from?

 

[jdstorm]

3? Where is the third coming from?

2nds we trade into F1 likely one of Gold Coasts since they have another academy player