AFL Dream Team 2007

[the egg]

that statement is amazing, whos to say j.brown aint gona die tomoro, thatll fack a lot of people up, x clarke is indigenous he will avoid death, least he dont belt the crap out of players like jbrown, and is also cheaper.

and gilbee could drown because he is a terrible swimmer. its a game of luck girls a boys, and skill to a degree.

 

[twarby]

What a random come back.

admit you loved it
jbrown dieing is hard to believe though, who the fack could put him down

 

[Rough_Edges]

people wont pick players like x clarke because they think he is injury prone but when it comes down to it he is a good player, will score as good as any other player and will probably get injured as easy as any other player just look at mclean ffs. so stop bein girls by saying ooo im not going to get lappin or im not gonna get clarke or hudson because of his knee because anyone can get injured. Brad Johnson could just as easily do his hammy next week as easily as clarke could *** ya

Are you right mate?

So are you saying someone like say....Yze, who has played a heap of games in a row 200? is as likely to get injured as X.Clarke or J.Koschitzke.

Far out mate, have a think about it. You seriously have just made me shake me head is dis-belief.

 

[jbomb3000]

My Rucks situation - None what so ever Decided to just have a no risk ruck system, although it kinda backfired with Cox being injured with no reserve haha.

It was a little ironic that most people who went for the "no risk" ruck plan more than likely got burned on cox. I don't really understand the hang up that some people have about having good/bad rucks or whatever section. Every position on the ground scores you the same so if you can pick up good cheap options in the ruck at the benefit of other areas then what is wrong with this, or am i missing something fundamental?

 

[the egg]

Are you right mate?

So are you saying someone like say....Yze, who has played a heap of games in a row 200? is as likely to get injured as X.Clarke or J.Koschitzke.

Far out mate, have a think about it. You seriously have just made me shake me head is dis-belief.

yeah sorry mate. terrets. but yeah why wouldnt yze get injured just as easy? he has had a good run helped by a fair dose of luck.

edit: and yze will prolly get dropped this week his form is terrible.

 

[Rough_Edges]

It was a little ironic that most people who went for the "no risk" ruck plan more than likely got burned on cox. I don't really understand the hang up that some people have about having good/bad rucks or whatever section. Every position on the ground scores you the same so if you can pick up good cheap options in the ruck at the benefit of other areas then what is wrong with this, or am i missing something fundamental?

Disagree.

A 220k mid or in this case a 220k forward, like Bock? will easily outscore a 220k ruck like Gardiner.

Meaning spend the 230k on Bock and then use that extra 160k on a great ruck who should score very well.

Does that make sense?

 

[Jimbeam]

I done the same stayed right away from mclean, lappin, brown, mcguire. However mail is in Kosi has had his 1st ever full preseason is in for a huge one, same as xman, got them both in my teams. I did however go with hudson, the guy was a walk up AA not that long ago, Clarkson was a sports scientist or something for the AIS, so hudon is ready to go and will really rip in a few weeks, i know 99% of crows will agree, darcy is a bookend and will sit on the ground gather me 50-80 a week and increase ten fold, in that time my other little cash cow griff will increase, upgrade to a decent ruck while my forwards will tear me a massive lead hopefully . Also if cox or sandi goes down now that will crunch their host teams and **** them right up.. I have also decided to make 2 trades in both my teams this week, i dont think i will have to make another trade until rd10 barring injury or reports. Im set.

 

[jbomb3000]

What are everyones thoughts on Stephen Milne and Brett Jones?

 

[Rough_Edges]

yeah sorry mate. terrets. but yeah why wouldnt yze get injured just as easy? he has had a good run helped by a fair dose of luck.

But still make.


You'd expect J.Koschitzke to get injured much more than Yze.

Not that i'd ever get Yze, i'm just using him as an example.

 

[Wrangeroos]

yeah sorry mate. terrets. but yeah why wouldnt yze get injured just as easy? he has had a good run helped by a fair dose of luck.

no luck involved mate! some ppl just can't handle full time football trust me.

i tore my hammy 4 times in 7 weeks last time i tried to play footy just coz one leg was a couple of cms longer than the other due to a shocking back.

some ppl are just prone to injury and soime never seem to get touched.

 

[Rough_Edges]

What are everyones thoughts on Stephen Milne and Brett Jones?

I'd stay away from both mate.

Milne i'd say has never averaged over 60 in his career and i doubt Jones will average over 65.

 

[Wrangeroos]

What are everyones thoughts on Stephen Milne and Brett Jones?

dont touch either. much better options IMO

 

[hoddo]

okay lets get this back on track.

my main HUGE point taken from round 1.
far too many ppl have decided only 2 rucks means you can take a cheapie in and still go okay. hudson doesnt look up to it, griffen did well but still scored low and darcy is a dedcoy target really to let the johnson circus take place.

2 top tier ruckman are NEEDED this year. i have everitt and regretting it already. hate to think what ppl are thinking who have hudson on the park.

Finally a worthwhile post. Sure did have to wade through some verbal excrement to find it though.

Excellent point Wrangeroos. Two top ruckmen are vital. There are plenty of cheaper players in other positions who will score well, but it looks unlikely that any of the cheaper rucks will give worthwhile scores.

Darcy's a fantastic player, but big men usually take a season to find their best after serious injury. Darcy's been out for 2 years. He may never get back to his best. Hudson's also missed a full season and all he has to recommend him is a promising preseason before his injury. They are the sort of player you may consider bringing in later IF they start to show form, but to have them in the starting 22 now is very risky. Everitt and Sandilands are the cheapest I would consider.

My starting rucks are Fraser and Everitt. Neither did much in round 1. I'm confident Fraser will be great, but Everitt may be a spent force.

Everitt costs a little more than Sandilands who has confirmed his improvement. Unless they reverse their scores in round 2 my first draft change will be pretty obvious.

 

[dont bowl there]

I got Hudson and i think he will do beter than Everitt this year, why get a guy that will be spending only half the match on the ground? If you want to go with the "two top ruckmen are vital" theroy then you stuffed up big time getting Everitt.

 

[the egg]

But still make.


You'd expect J.Koschitzke to get injured much more than Yze.

Not that i'd ever get Yze, i'm just using him as an example.

maybe, maybe not, yze could do his knee tomorrow just as likely as kosi could do his. look at the injuries to players over the last 2 years. hahn , coughlan , murphy and maybe theres probly 1 or 2 more who done there knees. then you look at ruckmen you have hudson, darcey and 1 or 2 others so its basically the same. edit: and also fletcher has ****ed his knee

 

[nighthawk]

Disagree.

A 220k mid or in this case a 220k forward, like Bock? will easily outscore a 220k ruck like Gardiner.

Meaning spend the 230k on Bock and then use that extra 160k on a great ruck who should score very well.

Does that make sense?

What you say is both right an wrong. It's wrong because a 220k ruck scored the same as a 220k forward like Bock, so supposing they maintain their previous average, then their position doesn't matter.

But, the difference is that some positions are more likely to increase than others. Like, there are a whole host of midfielders who will find it easier to get more possessions, and therefore increase their DT points more than a young/cheap back.

So my suggestion is that backs and rucks (who are harder to find improvers for) should have more gun, expensive players than the mids and forwards where you can easily find players who will increase their points.

But ultimately, there are still players in the rucks and backs who look set to improve, and their is no benefit in picking other players simply based on position.

Of course, this is only my opinion, and is not neccessarily the "correct" way of going about things.

 

[Blinger]

okay lets get this back on track.

my main HUGE point taken from round 1.
far too many ppl have decided only 2 rucks means you can take a cheapie in and still go okay. hudson doesnt look up to it, griffen did well but still scored low and darcy is a dedcoy target really to let the johnson circus take place.

2 top tier ruckman are NEEDED this year. i have everitt and regretting it already. hate to think what ppl are thinking who have hudson on the park.

I didn't see the need for 2 top ruckmen so I went with Sandilands & Mc Intosh, then I had Griffin & Hudson on the bench as reserves\ cashcows. I certainly would not have started Hudson or Griffen.

 

[Wrangeroos]

What you say is both right an wrong. It's wrong because a 220k ruck scored the same as a 220k forward like Bock, so supposing they maintain their previous average, then their position doesn't matter.

massively wrong. look at bocks avg last year.
his price this year cost roughly $3000 per point. most players avg $3910 per point. i don't know why ppl like bock and adcock slipped thru but they are much better value than plenty of others out there

 

[the egg]

I didn't see the need for 2 top ruckmen so I went with Sandilands & Mc Intosh, then I had Griffin & Hudson on the bench as reserves\ cashcows. I certainly would not have started Hudson or Griffen.

have some faith boi hudson with fire up soon dont worry. i got sandi and hudson on field and ryder and griffen on the bench. half the people on this forum probly don't know what hudson is capable of anyway as most members are from victoria/nsw yes? which means they would have watched as many crows games as sammy newman has, which isnt many.

 

[nighthawk]

massively wrong. look at bocks avg last year.
his price this year cost roughly $3000 per point. most players avg $3910 per point. i don't know why ppl like bock and adcock slipped thru but they are much better value than plenty of others out there

Yeah, but I thought those players were simply mispriced?

Or maybe my entire understanding of the pricing system is wrong... it just seems that in the majority of cases those with the same average score are the exact same price, and that everyone else seems to fit in with their average.

Bock and Adcock are the only two exceptions I've ever found. But as I've always said, I'm hardly an expert.

 

[hoddo]

I got Hudson and i think he will do beter than Everitt this year, why get a guy that will be spending only half the match on the ground? If you want to go with the "two top ruckmen are vital" theroy then you stuffed up big time getting Everitt.

Everitt was close to being the best ruckman in the comp in 2005. At the end of that year he tried to leave the Hawks and go to Sydney. The trade didn't go through and he was stuck at Hawthorn in 2006. He was very unhappy to be there and it showed in his form. Now he's finally made it to Sydney it's not unreasonable to expect him to regain form. That's why I selected him.

Last week was not good. If he fails again next week it may suggest that he's not going to make that return to form and if Sandilands performs well again I'll trade them before their prices change.

 

[gandaal]

In regards to Kosi he meant hurt in terms of points scored each week, not as in an injury.

Can anyone tell me what happend to Matty Lappin on the weekend I didnt get to see the game and want to know if he got inj, had a shocker or his role in the team has changed?

His role in the team has changed. He's old, this will be his last year.

 

[Jimbeam]

Everitt was close to being the best ruckman in the comp in 2005. At the end of that year he tried to leave the Hawks and go to Sydney. The trade didn't go through and he was stuck at Hawthorn in 2006. He was very unhappy to be there and it showed in his form. Now he's finally made it to Sydney it's not unreasonable to expect him to regain form. That's why I selected him.

Last week was not good. If he fails again next week it may suggest that he's not going to make that return to form and if Sandilands performs well again I'll trade them before their prices change.

You will be going to sandy, Everitt is not going to be an elite ruckman this year. Nice choice of fraser, i got him in one of my teams, he will hit the straps and be a ruck/rover/forward scoring heavy. We just need richards to support him more and the scores will roll in

 

[the egg]

Everitt was close to being the best ruckman in the comp in 2005. At the end of that year he tried to leave the Hawks and go to Sydney. The trade didn't go through and he was stuck at Hawthorn in 2006. He was very unhappy to be there and it showed in his form. Now he's finally made it to Sydney it's not unreasonable to expect him to regain form. That's why I selected him.

Last week was not good. If he fails again next week it may suggest that he's not going to make that return to form and if Sandilands performs well again I'll trade them before their prices change.

trade THEM? why would you trade sandilands

 

[hoddo]

trade THEM? why would you trade sandilands

That post followed on from my previous one. If you'd seen that you'd know I was talking about trading Everitt FOR Sandilands.