AFL Fixture 2025

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Collingwood 14 MCG games (9 home games)
Richmond 12 MCG games (10 MCG home games)
Melbourne 12 MCG games (9 home games)
Carlton 11 MCG games (6 home games)
Hawthorn 10 MCG games (6 home games)
Essendon 7 MCG games (5 home games)
Geelong 5 MCG games (1 home games)

About the best we could hope for, but I would like to see us get 12 MCG home and away games like the pure MCG tenants
Bombers have 8 MCG games, 4 home. Post Tassie, 12 games, 9 home would be great. We are a bigger club than Melbourne,
 
Looking at our fixture, I am really temped to upgrade the membership to Away games too.
I recon a handful of the G games like the away Collingwood, Melbourne and Dogs game will end up having to buy a ticket. So surly that is worth the extra right there.
There will be designated away games with entry. Only Pies will you need to reserve a seat,Dees and Dogs won’t crack 55k.
 
Wondering if the cairns thing will actually happen.

Games in qld rare. But none in 2025
Let’s hope not. One game in Cairns is more travel time than our four Tassie games combined. Games there (like Darwin) are slippery, sloppy and the humidity is draining. One game at the very most, ideally heading into our mid season bye. Maybe Kings Birthday weekend. Any only if we exit Tasmania completely. It is time to stand out our own feet and go head to head with the Big 4 and make it a Big 5.
 
Let’s hope not. One game in Cairns is more travel time than our four Tassie games combined. Games there (like Darwin) are slippery, sloppy and the humidity is draining. One game at the very most, ideally heading into our mid season bye. Maybe Kings Birthday weekend. Any only if we exit Tasmania completely. It is time to stand out our own feet and go head to head with the Big 4 and make it a Big 5.

Big 4 according to divvy up is Coll wce rich haw
 
No excuses with that draw. We get 3 top 8 sides twice and 3 bottom 8 sides twice. Of those we get twice, we have a strong recent record against Collingwood Carlton Brisbane Adelaide.

Lots of high profile games as we’d want.

Challenge will be tough start again and our propensity to start slow. That’s gone on long enough and the club needs to get pre season right this time around to start the season properly.
 

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It’s certainly a tough draw as far as being good for our win loss but I’m really happy with us being exposed regularly to big games under lights.

I love day footy so much more than night footy, but, as a club/list we need more of this for our development. Might hurt us in 2025 (also might not) but one thing it will do is be brilliant for our young core to get continuous feel for those games.

The 8 week block of no games at the MCG and copping the Power return in Tassie are mind boggling though.
 
Yet we are selling games like the battlers GC, GWs, North and Dogs.
We're big 4 because we've got strong financials and membership. Both those things boosted by the fact that the club has made the choice to branch out from the Melbourne bubble and find lucrative deals interstate that also expose us to new fans that then become members.

I can't speak to whether or not the Cairns thing would be a good move for us, but it's almost certain we wouldn't be considered big 4 now if it weren't for the Tassie deal.
 
We're big 4 because we've got strong financials and membership. Both those things boosted by the fact that the club has made the choice to branch out from the Melbourne bubble and find lucrative deals interstate that also expose us to new fans that then become members.

I can't speak to whether or not the Cairns thing would be a good move for us, but it's almost certain we wouldn't be considered big 4 now if it weren't for the Tassie deal.
Disagree. Financially we are strong, partly due to the Tassie deal, and partly due to wise investing, but no one besides Hawthorn supporters would consider us Big 4. The Big 4 are the clubs that draw the big crowds. If we stopped playing in Tassie in 2013 after North started playing in Hobart which is also when our crowds there dropped by 20% - 25%, we would have had much higher crowds over the past decade and be a bigger club going forward. Once Tassie enter the comp our membership there will drop significantly. North are smart cutting the cord now.

Cairns won’t be a good thing. It is nothing like Tasmania. If is a big country town that follows NRL, with AFL support from transient tourism workers from southern states who live in places like Port Douglas. The ‘stadium’ seats around 2,000, the rest is a grass hill. Games there will be slippery and sloppy and taxing on the players, and it is the same distance flight from Melbourne as Perth. We are better than that.

Pass.
 
and copping the Power return in Tassie are mind boggling though.

MCG crowds versus interstate clubs in recent years not including covid seasons.

2024 - Adelaide - 36,086 (Saturday midday game)
2024 - Sydney - 38,052 (Sunday twilight game)
2023 - Brisbane - 35,869 (Saturday midday game)
2023 - Fremantle - 27,951 (Saturday midday game)
2022 - Weagles - 22,598 (Sunday midday game)
2019 - GWS - 14,636 (Sunday twilight game)
2019 - Eagles - 31,895 (Saturday midday game)
2018 - Sydney - 32,784 (Friday night game)
2018 - Adelaide - 26,693 (Saturday night game - also Burgoyne's 350th)

It's really not mind boggling that the club gets drawn against interstate clubs at Marvel or UTAS.
 
MCG crowds versus interstate clubs in recent years not including covid seasons.

2024 - Adelaide - 36,086 (Saturday midday game)
2024 - Sydney - 38,052 (Sunday twilight game)
2023 - Brisbane - 35,869 (Saturday midday game)
2023 - Fremantle - 27,951 (Saturday midday game)
2022 - Weagles - 22,598 (Sunday midday game)
2019 - GWS - 14,636 (Sunday twilight game)
2019 - Eagles - 31,895 (Saturday midday game)
2018 - Sydney - 32,784 (Friday night game)
2018 - Adelaide - 26,693 (Saturday night game - also Burgoyne's 350th)

It's really not mind boggling that the club gets drawn against interstate clubs at Marvel or UTAS.

All these clubs lobby for multiple MCG games. There’s only 4 teams they play against. 8 non Victorian teams to 4 mcg tenants thats 2 home games each minimum
 
MCG crowds versus interstate clubs in recent years not including covid seasons.

2024 - Adelaide - 36,086 (Saturday midday game)
2024 - Sydney - 38,052 (Sunday twilight game)
2023 - Brisbane - 35,869 (Saturday midday game)
2023 - Fremantle - 27,951 (Saturday midday game)
2022 - Weagles - 22,598 (Sunday midday game)
2019 - GWS - 14,636 (Sunday twilight game)
2019 - Eagles - 31,895 (Saturday midday game)
2018 - Sydney - 32,784 (Friday night game)
2018 - Adelaide - 26,693 (Saturday night game - also Burgoyne's 350th)

It's really not mind boggling that the club gets drawn against interstate clubs at Marvel or UTAS.

Interstate clubs plural absolutely, I get it, I’m not arguing against any of that, no need for a complete dissection.

Merely stating that surely with the current climate against Port and the AFL wanting that matchup in gather round, why not give us the return match at the MCG.
 
Interstate clubs plural absolutely, I get it, I’m not arguing against any of that, no need for a complete dissection.

Merely stating that surely with the current climate against Port and the AFL wanting that matchup in gather round, why not give us the return match at the MCG.

Because 30,000 people will turn up which is a waste of an MCG slot. The club would be ecstatic with our MCG allotment this year with the vast majority of games being against bigger Melbourne clubs. The commercial outcomes will be vastly better for the club so it’s not as if we are being dudded.
 
MCG crowds versus interstate clubs in recent years not including covid seasons.

2024 - Adelaide - 36,086 (Saturday midday game)
2024 - Sydney - 38,052 (Sunday twilight game)
2023 - Brisbane - 35,869 (Saturday midday game)
2023 - Fremantle - 27,951 (Saturday midday game)
2022 - Weagles - 22,598 (Sunday midday game)
2019 - GWS - 14,636 (Sunday twilight game)
2019 - Eagles - 31,895 (Saturday midday game)
2018 - Sydney - 32,784 (Friday night game)
2018 - Adelaide - 26,693 (Saturday night game - also Burgoyne's 350th)

It's really not mind boggling that the club gets drawn against interstate clubs at Marvel or UTAS.
The last time we were genuinely in form before any of those games was 2018 and there were some decent mitigating circumstances for both of those crowds, weather and against an Australian WC game against France I think

If we played Sydney in the 2nd half of this season that would have 55k+ and Adelaide 45k+
 
The last time we were genuinely in form before any of those games was 2018 and there were some decent mitigating circumstances for both of those crowds, weather and against an Australian WC game against France I think

If we played Sydney in the 2nd half of this season that would have 55k+ and Adelaide 45k+

I’m honestly sick of the ‘oh but the Socceroos were on and it was cold’ - it was a Saturday night game and it was Silk’s 350th. Even at their peak I wouldn’t stay home to watch the Socceroos over going to the G to see the Hawks. Talk about fairweather.

On your other point - in 2012 we played Adelaide at the G and it drew 33,524. That’s us in form, with Buddy and Cyril on deck. We played West Coast at the MCG in our opening MCG game in 2016 and drew a somewhat better but still disappointing 42,977 given it was a grand final rematch. We did manage 45,781 against Adelaide in 2016 also but given it was a Friday night game in April that number is still soft.

Again, I think the club will be beyond delighted that the only interstate club we play at the G this year is the reigning premiers and that the remaining games are against bigger Melbourne clubs which will generate better crowds. The commercial upside to this year’s draw will be immense - and I’m more than happy for Port to be relegated to Launceston as they and their ******* coach aren’t worthy of the G.
 
MCG crowds versus interstate clubs in recent years not including covid seasons.

2024 - Adelaide - 36,086 (Saturday midday game)
2024 - Sydney - 38,052 (Sunday twilight game)
2023 - Brisbane - 35,869 (Saturday midday game)
2023 - Fremantle - 27,951 (Saturday midday game)
2022 - Weagles - 22,598 (Sunday midday game)
2019 - GWS - 14,636 (Sunday twilight game)
2019 - Eagles - 31,895 (Saturday midday game)
2018 - Sydney - 32,784 (Friday night game)
2018 - Adelaide - 26,693 (Saturday night game - also Burgoyne's 350th)

It's really not mind boggling that the club gets drawn against interstate clubs at Marvel or UTAS.

While Collingwood and Richmond do get much bigger crowds, they often draw similar crowds than these for these fixtures at the mcg.
As did hawthorn 2012-2016 bigger crowds I mean.
Also with Tassie games there’s less chance of being in top time slots for crowds. Let’s see what 2025 brings.

Anyway it’s more likely a hawks v brisbane or Sydney would be competing for MCG time with carlton or Essendon than richmond or Collingwood.

I dint see the angst and think this list has been cherry picked as worst possible case
 
I’m honestly sick of the ‘oh but the Socceroos were on and it was cold’ - it was a Saturday night game and it was Silk’s 350th. Even at their peak I wouldn’t stay home to watch the Socceroos over going to the G to see the Hawks. Talk about fairweather.

On your other point - in 2012 we played Adelaide at the G and it drew 33,524. That’s us in form, with Buddy and Cyril on deck. We played West Coast at the MCG in our opening MCG game in 2016 and drew a somewhat better but still disappointing 42,977 given it was a grand final rematch. We did manage 45,781 against Adelaide in 2016 also but given it was a Friday night game in April that number is still soft.

Again, I think the club will be beyond delighted that the only interstate club we play at the G this year is the reigning premiers and that the remaining games are against bigger Melbourne clubs which will generate better crowds. The commercial upside to this year’s draw will be immense - and I’m more than happy for Port to be relegated to Launceston as they and their ******* coach aren’t worthy of the G.

Agrees the ‘Floyvalry’ with port will be done when Kenny is, which is inevitable
 

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