AFL players that would make ADF Special Forces

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Which AFL players, if any, do you think could pass the SAS selection course and SAS reinforcement training to wear the sandy coloured beret?

IMO Trent Cotchin and Joel Selwood would probably be the most likely. What do you think?

I don't think Franklin would have any chance.

The fitness would not be the issue but rather the boredom, the elements and the "grey" man that would test most footballers.
 
Which AFL players, if any, do you think could pass the SAS selection course and SAS reinforcement training to wear the sandy coloured beret?

IMO Trent Cotchin and Joel Selwood would probably be the most likely. What do you think?

I don't think Franklin would have any chance.
Cotchin would only make the force if his mrs was there to stick up for him

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Thats just the barrier test to see if you meet the minimum physcial standards.

After that comes the 2 week selection course. They run 2 each year and each generally gets about 90-100 candidates who have passed all the above.

Of those 100 or so, usually only around a dozen make it to the end and are selected.

Then comes the Patrol course, parachute course your insertion skill (freefall, diving or vehicles) which lasts around 6 months to 1 year (and some who have passed selection, fail one of these courses and get shitcanned). After that comes more course for things like your CT cycle and CQB (counter terrorism and Close quarter battle) stuff. Lets not also forget the dreaded RTI (resistance to interrogation) course also.

I used to be posted to Swanbourne, and I was D/S on a selection course. I assure you the minimum standards of the barrier test above, is absolutely nothing like what happens on actual selection.

You will be mercilessly flogged. You will barely sleep for 2 weeks. You will be pumped full of information, and expected to retain that information even after said lack of sleep and physcial flogging. You'll lose at least 10kgs in those 2 weeks, and you'll walk hundreds of KMs (through the sand dunes of WA, in 30+ degree heat) carrying 30 + KGs. You'll be expected to stay awake and alert lying in an ambush for hours, after several days of no sleep and floggings. You'll be tested to ensure you are not afraid of heights (face down run downs abseiling) or claustrophobic (crawling through a narrow 3' wide tunnel underground for hundreds of metres), not afraid of open water at night (you'll swim through WA's white shark infested waters at night to Garden Island). You'll carry a car trailer, through the sand dunes, with only one tire for days. You'll carry a stretcher made of star pickets, and containing a man made out of sandbags filled with rocks and sand weighing 200kgs for longer. You'll run 15kms, do a gagillion pushups to fatigue, then run another 15kms.

Youll also learn the Regiments marching song Happy Wanderer.

Again. All of this is without virutally any sleep. All day. Every day. And you can stop whenever you want, get a cold drink and hot food in your belly and go home.

Being fit helps. But it really just determines how long you last on day 1 before you're wrecked. Everyone gets pushed to absolute limit.

You only make it if you want it. If you dont want it, you wont make it no matter how fit you are.
So how do you go from doing what you did in the special forces to spending a good proportion of your time on bf? (28k posts in 10 years would suggest you do).
 
I was on a Navy Patrol boat and had a chance to see some of the SAS in action training on one of the oil rigs

They were jumping off the oil rig in full kit in huge swelling seas

They were squirting each other with the oil rig fire hoses at full pelt for fun

They used our ship as a moving target and attacked it using their hardcore dual outboard RIBs (Rigid Inflatables), jumping onto cargo nets at full speed and banging heads on the side of the boat, just brushing it off

They came onboard and had a chat, each of them had a specialty such as knives etc ...

They were all different shapes and sizes

Crazy dudes, much respect for what they do though ..................
 
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I was on a Navy Patrol boat and had a chance to see some of the SAS in action training on one of the oil rigs

They were jumping off the oil rig in full kit in huge swelling seas

They were squirting each other with the oil rig fire hoses at full pelt for fun

They used our ship as a moving target and attacked it using their hardcore dual outboard RIBs (Rigid Inflatables), jumping onto cargo nets at full speed and banging heads on the side of the boat, just brushing it off

They came onboard and had a chat, each of them had a specialty such as knives etc ...

They were all different shapes and sizes

Crazy dudes, much respect for what they do though ..................
Probably a bit out dated now but i knew a guy who was in the SAS back in the 90s.
They had a ritual of the new guy having to walk across a room blind folded by the others beat the shit out of him.
Also got told stories about how some of them were blood thirsty killers. I guess their the thye of guys you want as your top soldiers

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Peak bigfooty right here. Myself, I often wonder about nascent fascism in professional sports people.

For example I'm curious about how many current AFL players would have actively joined the Nazi party from the early days (who would have been in the SA, and then who would have graduated to elite SS status as things progressed?), who would have merely collaborated at a later date to save their own skins, and who would have joined some form of resistance/helped to hide Nazi targets. Also those who would have been more suited as mid-level functionaries in Stalinist Russia. Very open to all replies, please PM me if you have sensitive information to share.
 
Peak bigfooty right here. Myself, I often wonder about nascent fascism in professional sports people.

For example I'm curious about how many current AFL players would have actively joined the Nazi party from the early days (who would have been in the SA, and then who would have graduated to elite SS status as things progressed?), who would have merely collaborated at a later date to save their own skins, and who would have joined some form of resistance/helped to hide Nazi targets. Also those who would have been more suited as mid-level functionaries in Stalinist Russia. Very open to all replies, please PM me if you have sensitive information to share.
Everyone has a little Nazi in them. Smart people know that, control it and/or put it to good use.
 
Most of these AFL guys would have a pretty lengthy injury record with a lot of surgeries. Would many pass the ADF medical tests?
 
Most of these AFL guys would have a pretty lengthy injury record with a lot of surgeries. Would many pass the ADF medical tests?
Probably not TBH. Get an injury while you serve and it's all good, but try to join with anything that can be an ongoing problem and defence doesn't want a whole lot to do with you. Same as police. Too much liability.
 
I didn't post the physical test, I was just responding to someone else who posted it.

I worked with a Army Sig at DSD who applied and attended. He came back a ruined man. He was laying up in a hole somewhere in WA and got attacked by a pair of emus. He didn't want to give up his position so he just copped it.

He had huge damage done to his buttocks, hamstrings and calves. Most of the muscles ripped off the bones.

What the ****? Surely when your arse cheeks are being ripped out by an Emu you call for help.
 
LOL loser. Probably all AFL players (provided they're not injured) could pass the SF fitness test in post #2. That is only a barrier test to determine that you have the minimum standard of fitness required to commence Commando Training, which is where the REAL hurt begins. Even so, AFL players may struggle with the navigation exercise and endurance pack march because it's something they're not used to doing.




This. Losers on this forum seem to think special forces is just about being fit. Of course most (if not all) AFL players would have the physical fitness to pass Special Forces selection, but physical fitness is only one part of the equation. Other qualities like your mental resilience, situational awareness and ability to stay calm and think clearly under extreme pressure are what's being tested during Commando and SAS selection.
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Most afl players wouldnt have the fitness to pass selection

Its a different style of fitness altogether - humping stupidly large and heavy packs for 21 days whilst not being fed and doing difficult tasks sleep deprived isnt something they train for.

Afl players would be more suited to usn bud/s seal course - not that they would succeed automatically - just what they do in training is more tailored to that course rather thsn the cadre course.
 
General post here not aimed at anybody in particular, but I see some fairly disrespectful anti war posters in here.

Even if you don't agree with war you don't have the right to disrespect any service person or their family's for the sacrifices that have been made so you can have a right to the opinion you express.

You don't know how rights work.
 
No

Most afl players wouldnt have the fitness to pass selection

Its a different style of fitness altogether - humping stupidly large and heavy packs for 21 days whilst not being fed and doing difficult tasks sleep deprived isnt something they train for.

Afl players would be more suited to usn bud/s seal course - not that they would succeed automatically - just what they do in training is more tailored to that course rather thsn the cadre course.

Roflcopter. I never suggested that most AFL players would pass the SAS selection course. I suggested that they could pass the SF barrier test, with the exception of the navigation exercise and the endurance pack march which they may struggle with because it's something they're not used to.
 

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