News AFL Tribunal appeals board upholds Houston's 5 Week Suspension

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If there is conclusive vision that the shoulder hits the head then it’s minimum 6. I haven’t seen any yet so could be interesting.
Spot on.

If it's head, then 5/6 is right.

I'm yet to see anything showing head contact other than ppl making assumptions and not understanding angles.
 
Damn you’re gunna be shocked when he gets 4+

Rewatch the vision he gets him in the head as part of the bump

I have, I can’t see any head contact.

Happy to be proved wrong, as the footage is hardly frame by frame close up.

If he did hit the head, sure he will get weeks.

But from the footage it just looks chest.
 

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I have, I can’t see any head contact.

Happy to be proved wrong, as the footage is hardly frame by frame close up.

If he did hit the head, sure he will get weeks.

But from the footage it just looks chest.

There is an angle from the other side which shows it.
 
Can we continue to say it louder for the morons in the back -

'Even if he hit the body, he did it when Izak was defenceless and vulnerable and had an alternative so whether he hit head is irrelevant to whether he will be suspended'

He is gone either way so stop pining for tje return of the sniper shots. Join your local ressies comp if that's what gets you off.
 
The whole 'head hitting ground knocking him out' argument is weird - it's still a result of the bump

If you pulled out of traffic and hit and oncoming car and that initial hit was a minor impact but then went on to be diverted into a light pole that then did cause significant damage, you wouldn't go arguing that the initial impact didn't do the damage
 
Can we continue to say it louder for the morons in the back -

'Even if he hit the body, he did it when Izak was defenceless and vulnerable and had an alternative so whether he hit head is irrelevant to whether he will be suspended'

He is gone either way so stop pining for tje return of the sniper shots. Join your local ressies comp if that's what gets you off.

Yeah sorry, you can bump when someone has the ball.

Simply calling Rankin ‘defenceless and vulnerable’ is not a factor.

When you get the ball, you should expect contact.

‘He had alternatives to bumping’….Well that’s true of any bump or any positive action for that matter.

Still have no idea what the actual charge is.
 

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It's another one of those punishing the outcome not the hit
Didn't hit him in the head, wasn't concussed until his head hit the ground.

Will get 4 or similar but if rankine bounced back up would get what?
he'd get nothing not even a free against, you said it perfectly "punishing the outcome not the hit" the AFL will be happy to throw Houston under the bus and let a guy who has never been suspended before miss out on finals. Anyone calling Houston a dog obviously has never played before hence why no players past or present have coming out calling him as such.
 
Can we continue to say it louder for the morons in the back -

'Even if he hit the body, he did it when Izak was defenceless and vulnerable and had an alternative so whether he hit head is irrelevant to whether he will be suspended'

He is gone either way so stop pining for tje return of the sniper shots. Join your local ressies comp if that's what gets you off.

Pretty much all this year there has been a simple thing and it’s in every single case of this. Whether the head contact is direct or indirect (whiplash or whatever) is does not matter. If you choose to bump then you have to ensure it’s in a way where no head contact comes of it regardless where that contact occurs.

Rankine got 4 for one, Wright got 4, the GWS bloke got 4 too. There’s others they come to mind. Those were on the lower end. Webster laughably only got 7. Feel 5 is where this incident fits but if they go 4 weeks I’m fine with it.
 
The whole 'head hitting ground knocking him out' argument is weird - it's still a result of the bump

If you pulled out of traffic and hit and oncoming car and that initial hit was a minor impact but then went on to be diverted into a light pole that then did cause significant damage, you wouldn't go arguing that the initial impact didn't do the damage

My problem is if a player like our Marshall who seems to get concussion easy is hit, your going to get a bigger penalty for the same hit as someone who isn't?
You bump Marshall and he falls to the ground and gets concussion, 4 weeks.
You bump a player who isn't easily concussed he falls to the ground you get none?
 
The whole 'head hitting ground knocking him out' argument is weird - it's still a result of the bump

If you pulled out of traffic and hit and oncoming car and that initial hit was a minor impact but then went on to be diverted into a light pole that then did cause significant damage, you wouldn't go arguing that the initial impact didn't do the damage

The analogy doesn’t work.

Pulling out of traffic and hitting a car is illegal.

Bumping is not illegal.

Bumping someone who then falls, you are not responsible for the resulting injury.

It’s just bad luck and the natural consequences of getting 36 athletes to chase a ball around in a 360 degree contact sport.
 
Yeah sorry, you can bump when someone has the ball.

Simply calling Rankin ‘defenceless and vulnerable’ is not a factor.

When you get the ball, you should expect contact.

‘He had alternatives to bumping’….Well that’s true of any bump or any positive action for that matter.

Still have no idea what the actual charge is.

It’s rough conduct and it’s the same charge as plenty have got this season and very fair for this incident. Rough conduct in the broad charge and the one that I will assume is used and rightly so, Rankine was in a vulnerable position he earnt the right to not be shirt fronted, wasn’t as bad as a Byron Pickett incident but it’s close.
 
Bumping someone who then falls, you are not responsible for the resulting injury

I think you'll find that you are responsible which is the whole point - choose to bump you better make sure they don't get concussion

Look I wouldn't call what Houston did a snipe or dirty, but he's ****ed up by knocking our best player out for the game (and next week too)
 
It’s rough conduct and it’s the same charge as plenty have got this season and very fair for this incident. Rough conduct in the broad charge and the one that I will assume is used and rightly so, Rankine was in a vulnerable position he earnt the right to not be shirt fronted, wasn’t as bad as a Byron Pickett incident but it’s close.

‘rough conduct’ seems to be AFL code for ‘we know what you did was not against the rules, but the result was not what we desire, so you are getting weeks’.

No one ‘earns the right’ to not be fairly bumped when the ball is live.
 
The analogy doesn’t work.

Pulling out of traffic and hitting a car is illegal.

Bumping is not illegal.

Bumping someone who then falls, you are not responsible for the resulting injury.

It’s just bad luck and the natural consequences of getting 36 athletes to chase a ball around in a 360 degree contact sport.

Mate if we want to start using real life analogies then this sort of foreseeable continuity is why one-punch killing laws were reformed to stop blokes getting away with a lesser charge.

If you punch a bloke and his head hits the concrete and he dies from that you are cactus.
 

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