AFL V Australian Football: Re-brand the National Competition as the 'Australian Football League'

[cos789]

There are approximately 10 million people or more in Australia who would disagree with you

We're looking for another 9,999,999 people .
Might have "football" in it's formal name , but not much else .

How about "touch football" .
It's illegal to kcik the ball .

 

[eldorado]

No one around here calls NRL footy

Alright, I'll type this slowly...

We in Victoria, SA, WA and Tas call Aussie Rules 'footy'

In NSW and Qld, they call Rugby League 'footy'.

It's not unique.

 

[Exe Gesis]

This is true, what eldorado says.
I've lived in NSW, QLD, and SA, and in all of them, folks call the predominant code "footy".
Don't forget in places like the ACT and NT, footy also refers to both equally!

 

[speedpeck23]

Promote it as much as you like....refer to it as Aussie Rules or the Australian game or anything with Australia in it I agree but at the end of the day terminology won't matter.......if the product is good enough it will sell itself provided it is given market exposure....

We know the product is great it just needs proper exposure with weekly matches for people to attend in NSW and Qld and true local rivalvry so supporters of each team have to live with opposition supporters right in their face just to get the real edginess and fanatacism going.

 

[Power King]

huh?
AFL = Australian Football League

lol at the generation Y female not being able to comprehend the OP.

As for rugby not 'being footy', that doesn't really matter as such in a practical sense (as opposed to what it is technically), because rugby fans refer to it as footy/football anyway.

I do like the idea of 'sherrin' as a nickname though...

 

[Tim_in_Philly]

Also note, noone asks about rugby, they ask about the NRL. Its our culture

Thus hitting on the biggest bugbear of people in the northern states with respect to rugby and rugby league. Rugby is rugby union - a completely different game to that played in the NRL.

When Melbourne people understand that difference THEN they can start complaining about Sydney people calling Aussie Rules "AFL".

 

[THE EQUALIZER]

Everyone loves shortening names so why don't we just brand it 'Ausrules'.

 

[McCrann]

I call it AFL because football can mean so many different things in this country, plus when talking about aussie rules, I'm only ever referring to the AFL.

Plus, I hold the view that the true football is the one that uses the foot the most - 'soccer'.

Using AFL instead of aussie rules is technically erroneous, but if we could give aussie rules a unique name like gridiron for NFL, then I'd rather use that.

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That is an erroneous argument.

In football - Australian Football that is - you can do the most important thing ONLY WITH YOUR FOOT! Namely - Score Goals!!!

In other brands of football, this can be accomplished by other means. In Rugby and Gridiron - most points are scored via the hands, whilst in Soccer - its true most goals are scored via the foot - BUT - In Soccer, you are able to score goals with your head, your neck, your knee, your thigh, your chest, your nose, your cheek, your back, even your butt!

Not to forget - the Opposition can even score your goals for you!

It is simply erroneous to talk of the "true" football. If it was truly all about the feet - surely the most important facet of the game would have to come off the foot, right???

 

[cowboy18]

It is simply erroneous to talk of the "true" football. If it was truly all about the feet - surely the most important facet of the game would have to come off the foot, right???

You can score goals with your shins too.

Perhaps the Australian Footandshinball League if we adopt your criteria?

 

[JF_Bay_22_SCG]

Completely agree - look at the FoxSports home page, which has 'AFL' and then 'Football'. So we are not football any more!!!

www.foxsports.com.au

We constantly get Soccer officials - including Ben Buckley saying things like "Football does not want to share stadiums with AFL".

We are being branded out of the term "football" and it is not good enough

We are not called 'football' because we aren't football. We are "Australian Rules Football" or "Aussie Rules". There is only one code that can be called football. Trying to argue otherwise is just plain ignorant & small minded.

With me the "S" word is banned. It is demeaning to the beautiful game of football.

As regards NSW & Qld people referring to the whole code as "AFL" I reckon the AFL are stoked. I'm kind of benign about it even if since having moved down here I have grown to increasingly dislike the AFL (see how they have bullied SEN out of broadcasting Melbourne Victory games as proof of my point as to the level of power & stealth they have in the local marketplace). If people refer to the Swans as an "AFL" team, I'd go with it. At least they actually know what the code is. And following it in Sydney is not as ridiculed as it used to be, especially in the white collar work-force (especially females).

JF

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Well said JF.

Some great people worked very hard to see Association Football - "football" - recognised by its proper name in this country, especially, and most importantly, Johnny Warren.

I've had my fair share of arguments with people about the "S" word too...

 

[WindyHillWinners]

Soccor is the round boring ball game and will always be referred to as such by the majority of people.

Football is the native code of Aussie Rules Football sometimes affectionately known as "footy".

/end thread

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Incidentally, the only person I've EVER seen or heard refer to Association Football as "soccor" is "WindyHillWinners"

And by the way, someone I respect a hell of a lot, and consider to be a real mate, died campaigning to see the sport recognised by its proper name, so perhaps a little less disrespect, at least, would be fair.

 

[Exe Gesis]

It's hypocritical (and evidence of the pride thing i mentioned before) that passionate soccer fans object to the name "soccer" and demand their sport be called "football" because "it's the rightful true definition of 'foot' ball". Yet are ok about the term "AFL" being used to describe the code itself, and object to or mock the passionate AR fans who insist they have an entitlement to the term "football", and their retorts that AR is more true to the definition of 'foot' ball.

Even tho strictly by definition, both games involve plenty of non-foot ball.

Meanwhile, both soccer and AR fans object to the fans of RU and RL and Gridiron calling their games "football" because apparently the foot and the ball less often meet, so somehow that's supposed to mean they cant be called "football"......even tho all these codes and AR/Soccer all stem from the one genesis, hence the generic term "football" applicable to them all.

Like the term "football" is some holy thing that can only be bestowed upon one code. Exactly the same as all these religions arguing about who is the one true God. Lol, humans can be so petty. Remember, Pride is one of the seven deadly sins.

Imo, grow up, and accept every code is football, and they all have their nicknames. Big deal. Just like Fremantle gets called Freo, or Essendon the Dons, etc.

Another analogy is like the terms "heterosexuality" and "homosexuality", where both sides are squabbling about who has a right to use the suffix "sexuality" and why the other cant.

I.e., still conclude that all codes should/would be better off marketing their nickname to differentiate themselves in the market place. No problem with that given the importance of marketing/etc. But they're all still entitled to use the football term too....american/australian/association/rugby football.

 

[WindyHillWinners]

Soccor is the round boring ball game and will always be referred to as such by the majority of people.

Football is the native code of Aussie Rules Football sometimes affectionately known as "footy".

/end thread

Refer to the above wonwhatever your name is.

You must live in a very dark cupboard as the SOCCOroos play Soccor. Not called in the association football roos now are they?

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Ignoring WHW's pathetic, childish and disrespectful trolling...

I.e., still conclude that all codes should/would be better off marketing their nickname to differentiate themselves in the market place. No problem with that given the importance of marketing/etc. But they're all still entitled to use the football term too....american/australian/association/rugby football.

That's a fair enough summation GG- but yeah, if people kick up about the nickname "AFL" as far as the sport of Australian Football, or Australian Rules Football, is concerned, no doubt fans of Association Football are entitled to dislike the "S" word, and dislike it being used

(and to especially dislike pathetic childish mispellings and being bagged at every opportunity by small-minded trolls like WHW)

And going back to an earlier post, "Sherrin" does sound like a good potential substitute 'nickname' for Australian Rules...

 

[WindyHillWinners]

Yes, Calling someone a troll and failing to respond is the easy way out isnt it

Good on you.


Nice thread my points are made

 

[clarkoscluster]

Thus hitting on the biggest bugbear of people in the northern states with respect to rugby and rugby league. Rugby is rugby union - a completely different game to that played in the NRL.

When Melbourne people understand that difference THEN they can start complaining about Sydney people calling Aussie Rules "AFL".

Absolutely correct. 99% of people on this forum incorrectly label league as rugby, and then chuck a hissy fit when northerners incorrectly label Australian Rules as AFL. Talk about hypocrisy.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Yes, Calling someone a troll and failing to respond is the easy way out isnt it

Um... I DID respond WHW, and then you just kept on repeating the same lame rubbish, just as you've been doing on other topics.

Geez... we're dealing with a real mental dwarf here

 

[Exe Gesis]

That's a fair enough summation GG- but yeah, if people kick up about the nickname "AFL" as far as the sport of Australian Football, or Australian Rules Football, is concerned, no doubt fans of Association Football are entitled to dislike the "S" word, and dislike it being used.

And going back to an earlier post, "Sherrin" does sound like a good potential substitute 'nickname' for Australian Rules...

It'll sound like a contradiction here, but i agree that people have a right to be offended by a popularized or useful nickname for a code. But at the same time people are being too precious (as a side debate) about who can and cant use or should or shouldnt use the term "football".

They ALL can, should be.

Back on the offensiveness of nicknames....soccer is ok imo because it's a derivative of "association" whereas "AFL" as a nickname is just daft. The "L" part of that is just stupid. An Australian Football LEAGUE can't be a code. Worth noting again, that terms Union and League for Rugby is ALSO daft and incorrect to refer to the very code using those suffixes of the organizing bodies.

 

[WindyHillWinners]

Um... I DID respond WHW,

Geez... we're dealing with a real mental dwarf here

Ignoring WHW's pathetic, childish and disrespectful trolling...

Yes...Talking of mental dwarfs you cant tell whether your ignoring me or your responding to me. Nice little embarrassing backflip there.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

soccer is ok imo because it's a derivative of "association" whereas "AFL" as a nickname is just daft. The "L" part of that is just stupid. An Australian Football LEAGUE can't be a code. Worth noting again, that terms Union and League for Rugby is ALSO daft and incorrect to refer to the very code using those suffixes of the organizing bodies.

Well that seems a bit of a lopsided approach to take as well, to be honest, GG.

Incidentally, for the most part, the only people who use the "S" word to describe Association Football, in my experience, are people who don't follow the sport.

The "S" word is considered to be daft by the vast majority of people who support the round-ball game.

you cant tell whether your ignoring me or your responding to me.

Let's recap. I responded, as I have before, THEN you posted the same repetitive tripe, and I ignored it.

Why should I need to endlessly respond to the SAME low-rent trolls from you over and over again, WHW?

You posted it once, there was a response. You post the same thing again, and again, and you are ignored, as you should be when you do that.

 

[WindyHillWinners]

LOL

You may have 4,000 posts or so but you are the one who has in 3 if his posts resorted to low grade accusations aimed at character assassination and failing badly.

As noted in my earlier post you don't know whether your responding or ignoring me. Your as bad at arguing as the Melbourne Football Club is at Football.

The only low rent thing I see is your IQ.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Yeah, I've made a fair number of posts on BF, and amazingly enough, they haven't been the same dull trolls and stereotypes repeated to the point of insanity, as many of your posts seem to be.

Wow... a cliched comeback about my IQ and about the Demons, that's a formidable response... I feel so upset now

Enough said.

 

[WindyHillWinners]

How original.

You've been caught back flipping mid air and slammed to the canvas for a knock out. I will take the above as a white flag. Probably no point you wasting our time trying to saveface