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I bloody give up.

Last night Baker got 4 weeks for a hit on a player that opened their eye up, couple of minutes off and Johnson was back on. Baker also pleased guilty, he got 4, round about right.

Greg Stafford is found guilty of kneeing a player in the back, he actually broke the guys back FFS! He pleads innocent (which should mean he gets more if found guilty) and gets three weeks.

Johnson will play this week, Blake will be out for at least 6 to 8, maybe the season. What is the tribunnal saying, if you draw claret you get more than breaking a players back??? Was he only half guilty????

The AFL is an absolute disgrace of a competition and in 20 years has not brought any consistency to the tribunnal process.

I bet the Mums and Dads with young kids are pushing their kids to play this game; NOT!
 
Very close to walking away as are a number of people I Know, people who go to the game every week.
 

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Originally posted by morgoth
Very close to walking away as are a number of people I Know, people who go to the game every week.
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why, because of the bloody tribunal? the players done something wrong and should be at the tribunal. who cares how many weeks they get, they ALL done something wrong and should pay for it.
 
I admit that I'm really surprised stafford didnt get a couple more weeks. As a tigers fan, I'm really disappointed in the way he plays the game and you can see he tries to disguise his attacks on the man. He seriously injured this guy and deserved to com more. Greg, pull your head in FFS.
 
What I want to know is how Biglands and Baker get the same penalty. one was a stupid reflex action that deserved 3 weeks. The othert, the guy ran at his opponent and hit him off the ball, he didn;t even have the ball and they are supposed to be equal acts. Give me a break.
 
Originally posted by morgoth
I bloody give up.

Last night Baker got 4 weeks for a hit on a player that opened their eye up, couple of minutes off and Johnson was back on. Baker also pleased guilty, he got 4, round about right.

Greg Stafford is found guilty of kneeing a player in the back, he actually broke the guys back FFS! He pleads innocent (which should mean he gets more if found guilty) and gets three weeks.

Johnson will play this week, Blake will be out for at least 6 to 8, maybe the season. What is the tribunnal saying, if you draw claret you get more than breaking a players back??? Was he only half guilty????

The AFL is an absolute disgrace of a competition and in 20 years has not brought any consistency to the tribunnal process.

I bet the Mums and Dads with young kids are pushing their kids to play this game; NOT!
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blake is **** get over it
 
Chemical

I think the tribunnal is too soft, attacks on the head should be a big NO as should any action that causes serious injury.

How do you think a player getting a broken back sounds? Good for the game?
 
Baker's sentence IMO was lighter becasue of the guilty plea..

Stafford should have gotten 2 more weeks IMO, but going on the Blake V Johnson injury theory, the Lynch should buy Another lottery ticket as wakelin will be out for a month
 
Originally posted by morgoth
How do you think a player getting a broken back sounds? Good for the game?
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Well what happens if someone does exactly the same thing this weekend, but by chance they hit a different spot of the back and don't do any structural damage? Are the penalties different then?

Baker chased a bloke off the ball and whacked him in the face, completely behind the play.
 
Originally posted by itsintheblood
I admit that I'm really surprised stafford didnt get a couple more weeks. As a tigers fan, I'm really disappointed in the way he plays the game and you can see he tries to disguise his attacks on the man. He seriously injured this guy and deserved to com more. Greg, pull your head in FFS.
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Good call. The guy can play, has talent etc. etc. It seriously s%&*s me that players like him through their so-called 'careless' actions penalise their team mates,then have the nerve to appear shocked when they are peanlised and claim they were hard done by. Every club has a player like him. Hopefully this suspension send a message to them all.
 
Originally posted by chemical
why, because of the bloody tribunal? the players done something wrong and should be at the tribunal. who cares how many weeks they get, they ALL done something wrong and should pay for it.
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But it is about consistency and sending a message to the player that certain actions wont be tolerated.

Baker's action was deliberate and deserved to get four weeks as did Biglands, but IMO what Staford did was far worse (irrespective of the actual injury it caused) as he deliberately dropped his knee into a players back. To get a lesser penalty is just crazy.

The tribunal has also sent a message to players in three instances now that it is acceptable to belt a bloke in the head with your elbow and get away with it.
 

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Originally posted by morgoth
I bloody give up.

Last night Baker got 4 weeks for a hit on a player that opened their eye up, couple of minutes off and Johnson was back on. Baker also pleased guilty, he got 4, round about right.

Greg Stafford is found guilty of kneeing a player in the back, he actually broke the guys back FFS! He pleads innocent (which should mean he gets more if found guilty) and gets three weeks.

Johnson will play this week, Blake will be out for at least 6 to 8, maybe the season. What is the tribunnal saying, if you draw claret you get more than breaking a players back??? Was he only half guilty????

The AFL is an absolute disgrace of a competition and in 20 years has not brought any consistency to the tribunnal process.

I bet the Mums and Dads with young kids are pushing their kids to play this game; NOT!
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While I agree that Stafford should have gotten a couple more weeks, it's only because of the recklessness of his actions, and his past record, not based on how many weeks his victim will be injured for.

Having the suspension mirror the injury to the victim is ultimately flawed.
 
Originally posted by morgoth
I bloody give up.

Last night Baker got 4 weeks for a hit on a player that opened their eye up, couple of minutes off and Johnson was back on. Baker also pleased guilty, he got 4, round about right.

Greg Stafford is found guilty of kneeing a player in the back, he actually broke the guys back FFS! He pleads innocent (which should mean he gets more if found guilty) and gets three weeks.

Johnson will play this week, Blake will be out for at least 6 to 8, maybe the season. What is the tribunnal saying, if you draw claret you get more than breaking a players back??? Was he only half guilty????

The AFL is an absolute disgrace of a competition and in 20 years has not brought any consistency to the tribunnal process.

I bet the Mums and Dads with young kids are pushing their kids to play this game; NOT!
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You are making no sense. What player had his back broken? I would suggest if that occurred then it would be a major headline.

What about Hamill only getting 1?? How long is he going to get away with being a sniper?
 
Grayballs

Umm where does this relate to Collingwood? This is a comment on the tribunnal, considering my seat is paid for the entire year whether I actually go or not has no impact other than the AFL may not rip me off on catering.

I will always support my club, just not actively follow AFL.
 
There are a number of issues floating around at the moment. I do detect some real resentment building on some of them. On others I detect serious confusion. All in all there seems a growing disillusionment with the AFL as opposed to the sport. I think we are in dangerous times. If you add to all the confusion, resentment and disillusionment a club or two falling over and folding or relocating I really believe we are headed for a massive crunch. If the passion levels die off a bit, which seems to me to be occurring, then IMO the AFL will start a downhill spiral that it cannot get out of.

The danger is that the huge passion that has driven people to support clubs when they know realistically they can't win the premiership or that has lead people to believe they can win the premiership even though the rest of the world knows otherwise will dissipate and the AFL will be left with anger among the ex fans and ambivalence among many of the TV watching non attending remaining fans. It wouldn't take much of an attendance and ratings drop to see TV rights stagnate or fall which in itself is a scenario that will kill off clubs. If the coverage ever went predominantly pay for view it would be a massive bucket of water on the whole competition. I doubt that will happen but at the same time I can that all it would take is a big enough cheque book by say a Murdock or packer as an owner of a subscription cable network.

The main problems as I see them revolve around accountability, transparency and agenda pushing. IMO everything can be traced to these concepts and are centered around the AFL never taking the public with them but dragging them kicking and screaming into what it believes is the direction it should head. Whether that is related to TV and broadcasting, ticketing and seating, marketing or expansion, it is always a poorly outlined and explained order and never a request or invitation.

Meanwhile I support collingwood and not the AFKL in any way shape or form. I love the game and my club but that has nothing to do with the AFL. I hope all Collingwood supporters feel the same. The AFL have created the conundrum of a combative socialist system which prevents real reward for effort, rewards failure enourmously and pits what might otherwise be off field allies with a common cause of growing the game and the competition as off filed enemies instead of just on field rivals.
 
Umm from the Aints site, cracked vertabrae, part of the back aren't they? AFL is keeping it quiet.

St Kilda ruckman Jason Blake will miss up to eight weeks as a result of the back injury he suffered against Richmond at Telstra Dome on Monday.

Blake suffered the injury after being crashed into after he fell by Richmond big man Greg Stafford.


A statement released by the Saints on Tuesday indicated that he had fractured the transverse process lumbar number three and four vertebrae,

Blake, who has played 43 games for the club spent Monday night under observation in hospital.

Stafford was reported on video evidence on Tuesday for the incident.
 
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Originally posted by stopeedie
You are making no sense. What player had his back broken? I would suggest if that occurred then it would be a major headline.

What about Hamill only getting 1?? How long is he going to get away with being a sniper?
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Stopeedie , where have you been? Blake has vertabrae fractures, bones have been broken (broken back) you really don't know whats going on do you. :rolleyes:
BTW Hamill sniper, what do you call a snipe? this will be good.
 
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Originally posted by The Fireman
Stopeedie , where have you been? Blake has vertabrae fractures, bones have been broken (broken back) you really don't know whats going on do you. :rolleyes:
BTW Hamill sniper, what do you call a snipe? this will be good.
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The tribunal must have held Staffords action was reckless but not deliberate like Bakers.

But then So was Biglands action reckless nad he got the same as Baker's deliberate act.

I give up on trying to second guess the tribunal

I have no idea how Schofield got off either which in my view was much worse than what McLeod did a couple of years ago.

Basically, its a lottery.
 
Originally posted by MarkT


Meanwhile I support collingwood and not the AFKL in any way shape or form. I love the game and my club but that has nothing to do with the AFL. I hope all Collingwood supporters feel the same. The AFL have created the conundrum of a combative socialist system which prevents real reward for effort, rewards failure enourmously and pits what might otherwise be off field allies with a common cause of growing the game and the competition as off filed enemies instead of just on field rivals.
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agree with a lot of that but is this bit another whinge about the draft system?
 
Originally posted by morgoth
Grayballs

Umm where does this relate to Collingwood? This is a comment on the tribunnal, considering my seat is paid for the entire year whether I actually go or not has no impact other than the AFL may not rip me off on catering.

I will always support my club, just not actively follow AFL.
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If Collingwood were winning, you wouldnt give a stuff about the tribunal.
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