Autopsy AFLX - The Bigfooty Verdict

[Hoops]

would like to try 1-3 players from each team in each forty always

 

[Monkster]

This. The desperation from AFL house to get his game palatable to an international audience is just pathetic and deluded. I cant believe supposedly smart highly paid people think they can make this work overseas. And more importantly, that its so high on the agenda when there is plenty of other issues they could and SHOULD be tackling.

If they can't get the game popular overseas it will be dead within 50 years.

Soccer is creeping up, why? Because there's money in it overseas.

Basketball is starting to take off again here and is becoming more popular worldwide.

Even the NFL is trying to get their game bigger overseas.

Any professional sport that doesn't try to expand worldwide is doomed to die.

 

[Peel67skin]

If they can't get the game popular overseas it will be dead within 50 years.

Soccer is creeping up, why? Because there's money in it overseas.

Basketball is starting to take off again here and is becoming more popular worldwide.

Even the NFL is trying to get their game bigger overseas.

Any professional sport that doesn't try to expand worldwide is doomed to die.

Soccer are very different , you had beach soccer , indoor soccer or street soccer .

 

[Coaster2012]

Replace it with a state of origin series for 1st and 2nd year players. Will have the interest of the public and allows the youngsters to get seen on a bigger stage.

 

[74561347]

aflx sucks monster dongs

 

[Fyfster]

The very thing that makes soccer Boring is a lack of scoring ,The biggest issue with AFLX is scoring is too easy , Some games teams scored over 80 in 20 minutes. Sure some were 10 pointers , They are not challenging enough either. Really 40 MTRS out for a league footballer!! And is boring for the opposite reason

 

[maskmcgee]

The biggest problem is there is nothing at stake. Not really even pride. It's a bunch of C grade players doing a 20 minute training drill.

 

[dean33]

Basketball on grass minus the ring. An abomination.

 

[Hoops]

Lets have a Netball-Football Hybrid - serious

Netball

• Retangular surface with same markings
• 7 a side with same positions and restrictions
• Goals can only be scored from inside the semi-circle and worth 1 point
• No behinds
• Last touch OoB
• Play from goal resumes from centre circle must be passed into centre 3rd
• must touch each 3rd

Football

• Marks/Handballs/Kicks/bounces
• Played on grass
• Tackling allowed
• Play-on and running with ball allowed
• Goals must be kicked

For the goals have a vertical circle about 2m diameter and 5m off the ground.

I would watch that

 

[Testekill]

Lets have a Netball-Football Hybrid - serious

Netball

• Retangular surface with same markings
• 7 a side with same positions and restrictions
• Goals can only be scored from inside the semi-circle and worth 1 point
• No behinds
• Last touch OoB
• Play from goal resumes from centre circle must be passed into centre 3rd
• must touch each 3rd

Football

• Marks/Handballs/Kicks/bounces
• Played on grass
• Tackling allowed
• Play-on and running with ball allowed
• Goals must be kicked

For the goals have a verticle circle about 2m diameter and 5m off the ground.

I would watch that

Not the worst suggestion made

 

[Jade]

It was shite.

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

The whole purpose of Aflx is to appeal to new markets on other sporting codes fields.Really is a rusted on footy diehards opinion (like those on big footy )really relevant?.

 

[Big Blood]

The biggest problem is there is nothing at stake. Not really even pride. It's a bunch of C grade players doing a 20 minute training drill.

Yep it's just a bunch of trial games, so why not have an FA-cup style all-comers national comp? The one strength of X is its smaller scale and easier logistics, so take advantage of it and run a bunch of lightning carnivals over the preseason. You'd get plenty of sponsors so you could offer some decent prize-money.

That said, the game does need more of a physical contest. How about some no backwards-pass rules, like not over the centre line and not into the back 40m arc?

 

[Hawk_francais]

If you look up 'meh' in a thesaurus you'll find that 'zoopergoal' is the only synonym.

 

[Blackhawk42]

If they can't get the game popular overseas it will be dead within 50 years.

Soccer is creeping up, why? Because there's money in it overseas.

Basketball is starting to take off again here and is becoming more popular worldwide.

Even the NFL is trying to get their game bigger overseas.

Any professional sport that doesn't try to expand worldwide is doomed to die.

VFL/AFL football as a league has existed longer than most other sports. It is in no danger.
And why do people think soccer is creeping up? The A-League were making claims of becoming the number 1 sport about 5 years ago and then the Big Bash just completely squashed it. Now they are offering up expansion projects to try and gain interest again.

 

[X_box_X]

Is AFLX here to stay?

If so, will it be tinkered with, or remain in its current format?

I don't know how this will work with 18 teams, but I'd like to see only one team crowned AFLX champions. In the current format, there are three teams who win Grand Finals.

I have flirted with the idea of teams being split into two groups of nine, with each team playing eight matches (one match against each team in their group) over two weekends.

I have run through many scenarios to please everyone, including a TV audience, no more than three matches per team per day, and no more than six hours spent per day per team, matches being played simultaneously at different venues, using two venues, using four venues, one group playing all their matches in the early afternoon, with the other group playing all their matches in the evening. Put simply, nothing works and despite spending half an hour running through different scenarios, I have given up. The maths doesn't fit into the equation of pleasing a TV audience and making sure players aren't mentally and physically fatigued.

With 16 teams, this would have worked perfectly. Four groups of four teams with the winners of each group going through to the Semis. Similar to how the NAB Cup worked a few years ago.

18 teams makes this virtually impossible, unless (by using the current format) we award the highest ranked second placed team to join the three group winners to contest Semi Finals. I don't like this idea. The idea of a lucky loser is silly.

This is the suggestion I propose. It may not be popular, but it may work.

Matches to be played on both Saturday and Sunday. Saturday matches to be played at three different venues. Sunday matches to be played at one venue. Ideally all matches to be played in the same state.

Three teams of six groups, with each team playing their opponents once.
I.e. a group consisting of Melbourne, St. Kilda and Richmond. A total of three matches played in the group will result in each team playing two games. The winner of this group goes through to the second round.

The six group winners all go through to the second week. In the second week, the six remaining teams are split into two groups. The same process is then followed, with three matches played per group. The winners of each group then contest the Grand Final.

 

[Monkster]

VFL/AFL football as a league has existed longer than most other sports. It is in no danger.
And why do people think soccer is creeping up? The A-League were making claims of becoming the number 1 sport about 5 years ago and then the Big Bash just completely squashed it. Now they are offering up expansion projects to try and gain interest again.

Seen the youth sport participation rates? Soccer is easily number one among team sports, basketball is number two, AFL is number 5.

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6...hildren-and-adults-december-2014-201503182151

Granted those stats are 3 years old but I highly doubt that half a million kids have gone from soccer to AFL in that time.

That's what the AFL are worried about, you can't have a league without players.

 

[Slax]

Was a waste of space. TV ratings were pathetic and it has had a negative impact on AFLW.

Channel 7 will have final say on if it continues but reckon it'll be consigned to history.

 

[Doashuey]

Seen the youth sport participation rates? Soccer is easily number one among team sports, basketball is number two, AFL is number 5.

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6...hildren-and-adults-december-2014-201503182151

Granted those stats are 3 years old but I highly doubt that half a million kids have gone from soccer to AFL in that time.

That's what the AFL are worried about, you can't have a league without players.

Yet despite junior participation rates, Soccer and Basketball are very minor sports in this country at an elite level when compared to AFL, League and Cricket.

So how is taking footy to an international audience going to increase junior participation in Australia? The Auskick program and expanding beyond the traditional footy states is where it is at and the AFl has recognised this as evidenced by GWS/GC. The junior participation rates in footy here in Townsville has exploded in recent years, mostly due to Auskick and having a JLT game here each year.

AFLX will do a grand total of SFA to drive junior participation IMO.

 

[Woefully Inept]

I enjoyed it. I get it's not the same as normal afl, but it was a good carnival style thing to go to and if the entertainment part is pulled back so it isn't ridiculous, there's at least merit to something during the summer.

Weirdly enough, i thought the games were a little too long, shorten them to 7 minutes each way (same as Rugby 7s), and then you can fit more in, allowing for more teams at venues potentially.

I think it's worth continuing to explore and see the possibilities of where it could go, we just don't need the extra over the top stuff that went with a lot of this one.

On the other hand, there's a lot of radical ways to think about how it could work, like having state league/local teams compete in qualification tournaments and have a chance to take part with AFL clubs if the numbers feel a bit out of whack at the moment, or using AFLX specific lists for a competition in the summer. Something that might make it seem like those players are actually playing for something important. If we're going all out on it why not explore possibilities to get other players involved who will care about it!

 

[Dr Tigris]

I found it boring because of the lack on contest. I didn't realise that's what I love about AFL. Kick, mark run doesn't do it for me, unless it's part of something bigger.

Just me but I'd add 2 players up front. Create defensive intensity as well as attack.

Last touch rule is half baked, but not an abomination.

 

[Monkster]

Yet despite junior participation rates, Soccer and Basketball are very minor sports in this country at an elite level when compared to AFL, League and Cricket.

That's because all the good players go overseas for the money.

 

[Doashuey]

That's because all the good players go overseas for the money.

Ok then 2 questions-
1) How many Australian born and bred players play soccer and basketball at the elite level overseas? (hint: feck all).
2) If that's the case why would we want to dilute our competition by having our best players playing overseas?

This game has survived and flourished over 100 years into arguably the strongest sport in Australia while remaining a domestic competition. To say it will be dead in 50 years if it doesnt go international is an argument that holds 0 water my friend.

 

[Monkster]

Ok then 2 questions-
1) How many Australian born and bred players play soccer and basketball at the elite level overseas? (hint: feck all).
2) If that's the case why would we want to dilute our competition by having our best players playing overseas?

This game has survived and flourished over 100 years into arguably the strongest sport in Australia while remaining a domestic competition. To say it will be dead in 50 years if it doesnt go international is an argument that holds 0 water my friend.

Ok clearly you know more than anyone in the AFL so we'll leave it at that

 

[BringBackTorps]

The Auskick program and expanding beyond the traditional footy states is where it is at and the AFl has recognised this as evidenced by GWS/GC. The junior participation rates in footy here in Townsville has exploded in recent years, mostly due to Auskick and having a JLT game here each year.
AFLX will do a grand total of SFA to drive junior participation IMO.[?]

In Townsville & Nth Qld, what % approx. of primary schools generally have a sufficiently large ground in the school, or within a 10 minute walk, to play at least 15-side-AF? Ditto, secondary schools?

If the answer is a small % to either, I think the AFL is thinking AFLX-type games would be the solution in aiding kids to play AF on smaller grounds.

Also, some schools may not have enough interested players to enrol in 15/18-a-side-games.
"Glamourizing" AFLX, by having AFL clubs playing it more often in the pre-season, may assist, therefore, in promoting AF in nthn. states.
Your views?

Incidentally, comparing 2017 with 2014 Townsville district (ie not Cairns) AF regd. nos, what has been the approx. AF % increase in:-
.primary schools
.secondary schools
.jnr Clubs
.snr.clubs

Also, are the new players generally abandoning other sports to play AF? If so, which sports usually?