Age Reports 15 Players Test Positive To Drug Use

[milo]

iv spent years travelling the globe, and in the next year, im going to south america

Columbia?

I don't believe a thing you say.

You're a soft pill popping follower.

 

[Flag Man]

FACT

You are far more likely to die from a bee sting than taking ecstasy (MDMA).

FACT

Ecstasy is safer than aspirin.

FACT

The vast majority of deaths attributed to ecstasy are in fact caused by people selling the highly neurotoxic PMA (Paramethoxyamphetamine) as MDMA.

FACT

I can provide pharmacological references to support this.

 

[Ghostwriter]

FACT

You are far more likely to die from a bee sting than taking ecstasy (MDMA).

FACT

Ecstasy is safer than aspirin.

FACT

The vast majority of deaths attributed to ecstasy are in fact caused by people selling the highly neurotoxic PMA (Paramethoxyamphetamine) as MDMA.

FACT

I can provide pharmacological references to support this.

Fact - I don't beleive you.

 

[zero]

FACT

You are far more likely to die from a bee sting than taking ecstasy (MDMA).

FACT

Ecstasy is safer than aspirin.

FACT

The vast majority of deaths attributed to ecstasy are in fact caused by people selling the highly neurotoxic PMA (Paramethoxyamphetamine) as MDMA.

FACT

I can provide pharmacological references to support this.

please do, they sound unlikely (especially No 2)

 

[zero]

Columbia?

peru, actually, no where you would have heard of mate.

or could spell, probably

 

[MrAaron]

FACT

You are far more likely to die from a bee sting than taking ecstasy (MDMA).

FACT

Ecstasy is safer than aspirin.

FACT

The vast majority of deaths attributed to ecstasy are in fact caused by people selling the highly neurotoxic PMA (Paramethoxyamphetamine) as MDMA.

FACT

I can provide pharmacological references to support this.

FACT

People talk too mucch ******** after headbutting the bathroom mirror a few too many times ...

 

[jules101]

i totally fail to see what recreational drug use outside of football has to do with the AFL.

i mean, if there is a body preparation or professionalism issue then it is an issue for the club and player, like boozing it up before a game or turning up to training drunk or high, but other than that its got ******** ALL to do with anyone else.

fascist bull********. i see it as a massive invasion of their privacy.

get belly on the line, strike time.

Get over it, they are paid $100,000's of thousands of dollars a year. If they are told they can't they can't.

 

[Flag Man]

please do, they sound unlikely (especially No 2)

Utilising U.S. data:

ASPIRIN

In Washington vs Seeley (Supreme court Washington):

...aspirin fatalities average about 1,000 people annually.

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4954

Background: In the United States, acetaminophen (paracetamol) is one of the most popular and safe drugs when used within the recommended dose range. However, acetaminophen is also one of the leading causes of poisoning exposures in the U.S. In 1999, the overall number of calls to poison control centers concerning acetaminophen exposures was 108, 102.

Results: In the five-year review period, the overall number of calls to poison control centers concerning acetaminophen exposures declined slightly but the number of fatalities increased by nearly 100% from 76 in 1995 to 141 in1999.Overall, acetaminophen related fatalities represented 16% of the total 873 fatalities that were reported in the TESS database in 1999.

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/forum03/V-01.HTM

MDMA

METHODS: The authors obtained fatality reports from participating medical examiners in the United States. Cases were identified as "drug-unrelated" when MDMA did not directly cause death (e.g., motor vehicle collision); deaths from drug toxicity were judged "drug-related." RESULTS: Thirty-eight (8%) of the surveyed medical examiners reported 102 deaths associated with MDMA use from 1999 to 2001.

http://mdma.net/toxicity/fatalities.htm

PMA

The recent case reports of PMA-related deaths in South Australia[SIZE=-1]5,6[/SIZE] suggest that PMA is more toxic than MDMA, but do not provide a clinical explanation for this difference. Our retrospective study showed that most people with PMA poisoning present with clinical features that are qualitatively similar to those of people with ecstasy poisoning (ie, hyperthermia, coma, and seizures), but that these symptoms occur more frequently and are more severe in those who took PMA.

Certain features, such as QRS interval prolongation, hypoglycaemia and hyperkalemia, appear unique to PMA poisoning, suggesting there may be toxicological mechanisms different from those of MDMA contributing to PMA's adverse effects.

http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/174_09_070501/ling/ling.html#refbody7

However, this is now considered unlikely, as the chemical precursors of PMA and MDMA are different,3,4 and information received concerning Case 3 (described here) suggests that capsules containing only PMA are being marketed specifically to augment the effects of MDMA. This is an extremely dangerous development, as it is well recognised that PMA has a much greater propensity to produce adverse effects than other ring-derivative amphetamines.6http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/176_10_200502/bya10720_fm.html#i1064181

http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/176_10_200502/bya10720_fm.html

PMA (paramethoxyamphetamine)

Although rare, PMA is one of the most dangerous hallucinogens. Sold as a beige, white, or pink powder, PMA is often misrepresented as MDA. However, at doses considered safe for MDA, PMA is highly toxic. The hallucinogenic effects of PMA are similar to LSD. Physical effects of PMA include racing pulse, high blood pressure, increased and laboured breathing, high fever, erratic eye movements, muscle spasm, and vomiting. At high doses, convulsions, coma, and death can result.http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/176_10_200502/bya10720_fm.html#i1064181http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/176_10_200502/bya10720_fm.html#i1064181

http://www.ravesafe.org/research/PMA_abstracts_26052000.htm

 

[Flag Man]

Apologies for the cut and paste markup tags, but I am not going to bother writing that out by hand.

Also, please accept my apology as I don't have the bee sting data handy at the moment. I will pass it on in the near future.

My posts are not meant in any way to glorify drug use. I am just stating the facts.

FACT

People talk too mucch ******** after headbutting the bathroom mirror a few too many times ...

Shouldn't you be off somewhere burning witches?

Twit.

 

[bucksisbest]

AFL star fails drug test twice
Jim Wilson and Damian Barrett
11mar06

A HIGH-PROFILE player from an interstate AFL club has twice tested positive for illegal drugs.


It is believed the player, whom the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, returned two positive samples for illicit drugs, including cocaine and ecstasy...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18420327%5E661,00.html

 

[- PC -]

AFL star fails drug test twice
Jim Wilson and Damian Barrett
11mar06

A HIGH-PROFILE player from an interstate AFL club has twice tested positive for illegal drugs.


It is believed the player, whom the Herald Sun has chosen not to name, returned two positive samples for illicit drugs, including cocaine and ecstasy...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18420327%5E661,00.html

Interstate huh...so he is from Melbourne?

 

[Mrs. Cousins]

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[morphous]

FACT

You are far more likely to die from a bee sting than taking ecstasy (MDMA).

FACT

Ecstasy is safer than aspirin.

FACT

The vast majority of deaths attributed to ecstasy are in fact caused by people selling the highly neurotoxic PMA (Paramethoxyamphetamine) as MDMA.

FACT

I can provide pharmacological references to support this.

FACT

It's illegal end of story

 

[Hicham]

A culture to despise...

 

[copa]

i totally fail to see what recreational drug use outside of football has to do with the AFL.
.

It's quite simple really.


Sponsors might not like to sponsor known drug users.

 

[The Dice Man]

i am doing toxicology at uni and believe me, there are far more alcohol related "overdoses" as such than drugs. i dont wanna sound like im promoting drugs or anything, but from my experience, i feel more in control when ive taken drugs than when im ********faced on booze. coke makes u feel alert, coz its a stimulant whereas alcohol and weed, make u wanna go 2 sleep and they make u put on weight. athletes often take eccys, speed and coke coz those drugs actually make u lose weight and they get out of ur system usually within 24-48 hrs. weed can be traced in ur body for upto 3 months after uve taken it

Hmm, you study toxicology at Uni, yet you seem to think Coke making you alert is a good thing, that eccys, speed and coke are OK because they make athletes lose weight and its out of your system quick.. so harmless right?


Ever wonder why Coke, Speed or Ecstacy makes you lose weight?

ITS BECAUSE ITS EATING AWAY YOUR ********ING BODY IDIOT!!!!

Talk to any long term speed user and ask them how they went in their last medical check-up. Ask them how much of their irgans have been eaten away by a drug that is dangerous, and very bad for you!


Dont get me wrong, Im no teetotaler and have had more nights out of gak and assorted other rubbish than you've probably had hot breakfasts, but I stay away from that rubbish now as I have the experience to know when it becomes dangerous.

My cousin has been a regular Gak user for almost 10 years. You go to his house and his coffeetable is covered in used toilet paper that he's stuffed up his nose to stop its ever leaking dribbles.

he recently had a daughter and I thought this may have smartened him up.. Oh NOOOO isntead, now when his dealer is out of Gak, he gets Ice instead.. he thinks Ice is ok for you.


Grrr, ******** it.. I guess waht Im trying to say is sure go ahead and have your fun, but do not ever try and justify class A drugs as being anything but bad for your body, and mind.


Ive always sort of thought liek this about drugs. Experimentation and dabbling 'can' expand your mind to think to new levels, and in more lateral ways which can be very handy if you're an artist or in a job where thinking laterally is helpful, kinda helping to open the doors of perception (to borrow from Aldous), BUT there is a fine line where it becomes abuse and those doors f perception can be closed shut forever. i.e. before you know it, you've fried your brain and can hardly manage a simple task.


All drug use has a price. And just on ecstacy, Id be very concerned about the mental health of this nation over the next decade or two from pyschosises caused or induced by prolonged ecstacy use.

It is not a harmless drug, and pity the fool who thinks it is.


/rant

 

[Kapow!!!]

Hmm, you study toxicology at Uni, yet you seem to think Coke making you alert is a good thing, that eccys, speed and coke are OK because they make athletes lose weight and its out of your system quick.. so harmless right?


Ever wonder why Coke, Speed or Ecstacy makes you lose weight?

ITS BECAUSE ITS EATING AWAY YOUR ********ING BODY IDIOT!!!!

Talk to any long term speed user and ask them how they went in their last medical check-up. Ask them how much of their irgans have been eaten away by a drug that is dangerous, and very bad for you!


Dont get me wrong, Im no teetotaler and have had more nights out of gak and assorted other rubbish than you've probably had hot breakfasts, but I stay away from that rubbish now as I have the experience to know when it becomes dangerous.

My cousin has been a regular Gak user for almost 10 years. You go to his house and his coffeetable is covered in used toilet paper that he's stuffed up his nose to stop its ever leaking dribbles.

he recently had a daughter and I thought this may have smartened him up.. Oh NOOOO isntead, now when his dealer is out of Gak, he gets Ice instead.. he thinks Ice is ok for you.


Grrr, ******** it.. I guess waht Im trying to say is sure go ahead and have your fun, but do not ever try and justify class A drugs as being anything but bad for your body, and mind.


Ive always sort of thought liek this about drugs. Experimentation and dabbling 'can' expand your mind to think to new levels, and in more lateral ways which can be very handy if you're an artist or in a job where thinking laterally is helpful, kinda helping to open the doors of perception (to borrow from Aldous), BUT there is a fine line where it becomes abuse and those doors f perception can be closed shut forever. i.e. before you know it, you've fried your brain and can hardly manage a simple task.


All drug use has a price. And just on ecstacy, Id be very concerned about the mental health of this nation over the next decade or two from pyschosises caused or induced by prolonged ecstacy use.

It is not a harmless drug, and pity the fool who thinks it is.


/rant

Or as Mr Mackie would say: Drugs are bad hmmmk

 

[The Dice Man]

Or as Mr Mackie would say: Drugs are bad hmmmk

They have their good and bad sides, 90% bad, 10% good and its a very fine line.

I just hate it when people try and say drugs are harmless or arent bad for you, especially when it's implied by a uni student who studies toxology and should know better. Drugs eat you up, both physically and metaphorically.

Even chemist drugs do, all drugs have a side effect. Jeez the quack had me on steroids last week to combat the Hives i had.. I stopped taking em after five days as I put on 7 kilos, had no sexdrive, was retaining fluid(especially in my ankles) and generally feeling like I was a space cowboy.

 

[Kapow!!!]

They have their good and bad sides, 90% bad, 10% good and its a very fine line.

I just hate it when people try and say drugs are harmless or arent bad for you, especially when it's implied by a uni student who studies toxology and should know better. Drugs eat you up, both physically and metaphorically.

Even chemist drugs do, all drugs have a side effect. Jeez the quack had me on steroids last week to combat the Hives i had.. I stopped taking em after five days as I put on 7 kilos, had no sexdrive, was retaining fluid(especially in my ankles) and generally feeling like I was a space cowboy.

Why not just summarise and say the positive side of drugs is mental short for the experience and learning to how to avoid whereas the negative side affects physically immediately and mental long term? Would the be a fair summarisation?

 

[The Dice Man]

Why not just summarise and say the positive side of drugs is mental short for the experience and learning to how to avoid whereas the negative side affects physically immediately and mental long term? Would the be a fair summarisation?

Kind of. But the first part where you said 'positive side of drugs is mental short for the experience', is not really my take. Drugs change your mind forever, changes your perceptions and the way you think long after the drug has worn off. It's this part that can be positive. Many a great thinker and/or artist has been 'tuned-in' by drugs, but an almost equal amount of people have had their brains fried from 'tuning-in' for too long.

Alot of people dont know when, or how, to stop.

But as for the effects on your body, well I doubt that class A illicit drugs could EVER be beneficial to the body.

Hmm, actually that reminds me of something a Doctor told me years ago in regards to heroin. Ive never touched heroin though I suspect I got some in a pill once or twice(unknowingly..but thats the thing, you never know whats in it) but this Doctor told me it was actually medically better for you to have 2 doses of heroin a year, than having none at all.

IIRC, it had something to do with preserving your internal organs.. It actually helped them to live longer. Considering Heroin is such an addictive and destructive drug I didnt think it was worth adding to my vitamins.