Coach Alastair Clarkson IV - HFC Racism Investigation Discussion

[Del191229]

Shelley Ware has plenty of profile and from everything I’ve ever seen or heard is a lovely, thoughtful person. I felt a bit uncomfortable with the celebration of Clarke being at the game, even though I understand that he has only just started the job, it was the natural place for him to be given the status of the women’s program at our club, and he didn’t ask to be singled out for attention. I can only imagine that for an indigenous woman it came across worse, and don’t blame her for reacting without her usual thoughtfulness.

Would have been good if Shelley had declared she's got a pretty serious interest here from what I've heard re advising the families.

 

[gokangas]

Still don't know who she is. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Same here Hoj - no idea.

 

[r_boy]

Shelley Ware has plenty of profile and from everything I’ve ever seen or heard is a lovely, thoughtful person. I felt a bit uncomfortable with the celebration of Clarke being at the game, even though I understand that he has only just started the job, it was the natural place for him to be given the status of the women’s program at our club, and he didn’t ask to be singled out for attention. I can only imagine that for an indigenous woman it came across worse, and don’t blame her for reacting without her usual thoughtfulness.

Why shouldnt she be accountable for it?

 

[gokangas]

Shelley Ware has plenty of profile and from everything I’ve ever seen or heard is a lovely, thoughtful person. I felt a bit uncomfortable with the celebration of Clarke being at the game, even though I understand that he has only just started the job, it was the natural place for him to be given the status of the women’s program at our club, and he didn’t ask to be singled out for attention. I can only imagine that for an indigenous woman it came across worse, and don’t blame her for reacting without her usual thoughtfulness.

Thanks for the info Hearts to hearts - I don't know her at all. But I am not sure about the 'celebration' tag. I didn't see all the game but the cross I did see of Clarko was him sitting in the crowd. How does that become a celebration? Is there something I missed?

 

[sutcliffe's hotel]

Shelley Ware has plenty of profile and from everything I’ve ever seen or heard is a lovely, thoughtful person. I felt a bit uncomfortable with the celebration of Clarke being at the game, even though I understand that he has only just started the job, it was the natural place for him to be given the status of the women’s program at our club, and he didn’t ask to be singled out for attention. I can only imagine that for an indigenous woman it came across worse, and don’t blame her for reacting without her usual thoughtfulness.

Beautifully articulated H2H.

If you are unfamiliar with Shelley Ware, consider the entrenched nature of the “old boys network” in AFL coverage as a starting point. More Ware, less Cornes etc & we all might be in a better place.

 

[the big lebowski]

Thanks for the info Hearts to hearts - I don't know her at all. But I am not sure about the 'celebration' tag. I didn't see all the game but the cross I did see of Clarko was him sitting in the crowd. How does that become a celebration? Is there something I missed?

Yeah three seconds of screen time, probably about to equivalent of time viney was on tv at the Richmond game a few weeks back. Hardly a celebration

 

[franjon]

I’d love to run over Bolt.

EFA

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

What's your take.

Shit tweet. She cares passionately. No need for a pile on.

Anyone willing to questioned the assumed authority of boys club mentality has a needed voice.


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[the big lebowski]

s**t tweet. She cares passionately. No need for a pile on.

Anyone willing to questioned the assumed authority of boys club mentality has a needed voice.


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Though the “celebration” of clarkos presence was voiced by a female on the coverage

 

[Zebrah]

Shelley Ware has plenty of profile and from everything I’ve ever seen or heard is a lovely, thoughtful person. I felt a bit uncomfortable with the celebration of Clarke being at the game, even though I understand that he has only just started the job, it was the natural place for him to be given the status of the women’s program at our club, and he didn’t ask to be singled out for attention. I can only imagine that for an indigenous woman it came across worse, and don’t blame her for reacting without her usual thoughtfulness.

I agree H2H. It was the ‘Look who it is!’ tweet from 7AFL that didn’t sit right with me given what is going on. Felt dismissive of the seriousness of the allegations.

Not Clarko’s fault and the Ware tweet probably not right, but it is understandable.

 

[apollo_creed]

Nah **** her. Stupid tweet. Idiotic take. No sympathy whatsoever.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

I agree H2H. It was the ‘Look who it is!’ tweet from 7AFL that didn’t sit right with me given what is going on. Felt dismissive of the seriousness of the allegations.

Not Clarko’s fault and the Ware tweet probably not right, but it is understandable.

Well yes, which was what she reacted to - all the sensitivity we’d expect from channel 7. And she got a lot of reaction to her comment, some reasonable and some less so, for anyone wondering about accountability.

 

[Dan]

Strange take criticising Clarkson for being at an AFLW game.

You ask the players I bet they would appreciate the support.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Strange take criticising Clarkson for being at an AFLW game.

You ask the players I bet they would appreciate the support.

Yep, probably.

I’m sure Clarkson himself would have preferred to not be seen.

It was an ordinary tweet.


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[Val Keating]

I like Shelly Ware. She was great on The Marngrook Footy show.

Not her best moment, but as someone guilty of shit takes on Twitter myself, I’m definitely not going to judge her because of a tweet.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Just another media parasite taking pot shots at our club, gotta do mental backflips to defend that sort of shit.

 

[Disco Dew]

but as someone guilty of s**t takes on Twitter myself

I’ve always just assumed Twitter is the home of shit takes. If you aren’t tweeting shit takes you’re doing it wrong.

 

[My Left Foote]

I’ve always just assumed Twitter is the home of s**t takes. If you aren’t tweeting s**t takes you’re doing it wrong.

So Sam Farfoud is doing it right then?

 

[Disco Dew]

So Sam Farfoud is doing it right then?

100%!

I save my good takes for bigfooty. Which is concerning as they’re mostly still shit

 

[Samsquanch]

100%!

I save my good takes for bigfooty. Which is concerning as they’re mostly still s**t

So just as I thought. You ARE Sam.

 

[rickety]

Still don't know who she is. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Do you buy those twitting machines from the eBay thingo? Seems to me like they’re nowt but trouble in any case

 

[The Y Factor]

What's your take.

It’s a shocker - literally doing what she’s complaining about.

Also, “guilty before proven guilty” , might be a mistake - might be her mind set but this tweet is poor.

 

[Disco Dew]

So just as I thought. You ARE Sam.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I’ve always just assumed Twitter is the home of s**t takes. If you aren’t tweeting s**t takes you’re doing it wrong.

It's only gonna get worse now Elon has taken it back to the early 1900's.

 

[Disco Dew]

It's only gonna get worse now Elon has taken it back to the early 1900's.

EDIT: except maybe the main board…