Alex Condon (Future Cat B Candidate?)

[manicpie]

Currently missing practice due to a knee injury. Hopefully minor.

https://www.rotowire.com/cbasketball/player/alex-condon-22218

He'll fit right in with us then

 

[sr36]

Would Jordan still be the goat if he played in this era, or have a very good career a a la Demar Derozan?

I think he would because he was so good at getting to the hoop, but the thought of him then kicking it out to a lower percentage shot because that's what the scoring system dictates doesn't sit well with me. It goes against the whole principles of an invasion sport.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Would Jordan still be the goat if he played in this era, or have a very good career a a la Demar Derozan?

Jordan would have become a great 3pt shooter if he played in this era. There just wasn't as much emphasis on it then, but his workrate was legendary, he wasn't a bad shooter as it was, and his FT% was good, which is a fairly reliable indicator of outside shooting reliability usually.

A career 84% FT shooter with a godly workrate, focusing extremely heavily on improving his career 3pt% of 33% would easily get that to 38-40%, IMO.

 

[gouki88]

Jordan would have become a great 3pt shooter if he played in this era. There just wasn't as much emphasis on it then, but his workrate was legendary, he wasn't a bad shooter as it was, and his FT% was good, which is a fairly reliable indicator of outside shooting reliability usually.

A career 84% FT shooter with a godly workrate, focusing extremely heavily on improving his career 3pt% of 33% would easily get that to 38-40%, IMO.

From 89-90 (his big 3PT shooting jump) until his final Chicago season, he was a 36% shooter from deep on 2.4 attempts per game, over a near-600 game sample size. Comparable % to LeBron (less attempts necessitated by era). Bron has had multiple seasons of elite shooting from deep and is a worse FT shooter than MJ.

I think he would adjust fine. Players with much worse natural shooting touch and lesser workrates have turned into perfectly fine 3PT shooters.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Jordan would have become a great 3pt shooter if he played in this era. There just wasn't as much emphasis on it then, but his workrate was legendary, he wasn't a bad shooter as it was, and his FT% was good, which is a fairly reliable indicator of outside shooting reliability usually.

A career 84% FT shooter with a godly workrate, focusing extremely heavily on improving his career 3pt% of 33% would easily get that to 38-40%, IMO.

This is my thought too

 

[sr36]

From 89-90 (his big 3PT shooting jump) until his final Chicago season, he was a 36% shooter from deep on 2.4 attempts per game, over a near-600 game sample size. Comparable % to LeBron (less attempts necessitated by era). Bron has had multiple seasons of elite shooting from deep and is a worse FT shooter than MJ.

I think he would adjust fine. Players with much worse natural shooting touch and lesser workrates have turned into perfectly fine 3PT shooters.

Yeah, he was an extremely good mid range shooter, which was considered the percentage play before someone did some simple maths. I have little doubt his 3 point percentage would be right up there if he played in this era. At the time, he got it competent, but it was just there as a fake to help him get to the ring.

But quite simply still a star in any era, as noone has ever been as effective at driving to the rim. Not even close. And he'd wreak even more havoc that way in this era with the extra arc protection that defences need to do. He'd cut defences to ribbons and if they protected the paint as much as theyd need to, he'd feed out wide open 3s to his teammates sitting in the corner.

 

[The_Anvil]

I'm sure people are in his ear about pulling the trigger on getting a pre-season into him now rather than waiting. Could be a part of something special if the stars align.

 

[sr36]

I'm sure people are in his ear about pulling the trigger on getting a pre-season into him now rather than waiting. Could be a part of something special if the stars align.

Now could be his only chance to play with Pendles. Pull the pin on the yanks.

 

[The_Anvil]

Now could be his only chance to play with Pendles. Pull the pin on the yanks.

Legit. How could you pass up getting a hit-out to Pendles

 

[3rdMan]

From 89-90 (his big 3PT shooting jump) until his final Chicago season, he was a 36% shooter from deep on 2.4 attempts per game, over a near-600 game sample size. Comparable % to LeBron (less attempts necessitated by era). Bron has had multiple seasons of elite shooting from deep and is a worse FT shooter than MJ.

I think he would adjust fine. Players with much worse natural shooting touch and lesser workrates have turned into perfectly fine 3PT shooters.

No doubt. Someone gave the comparison of De Rozen. The better modern comparison to Jordan is SGA. Has the midrange and craftiness to get to the rim/paint. MJ, especially early, would have achieved the latter more through athleticism, but his shooting ability is comparable. MJ could absolutely have reached Shai's level of three point shooting. Both strong defensively, tho Jordan better at his best there.

Midrange shots have made a big comeback in play-offs the last couple of years. When you're as efficient as Shai, shooting 53% overall for a guard (only star on his team and therefore focus of the D) while averaging 30+ points, the three point shot doesn't have to feature as much. Only took 2.5 a game in 2023 and finished 2nd in the MVP.

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

Not relevant however basketball related, I went to school with a bloke with the last name Landale. After his son signed a 4 year 48 million dollar contract with the Houston Rockets, Sam Newmans son who was a couple of years younger in same boarding house years after the fact lodges a claim for a bad back created apparently from being jumped on whilst boys were mucking about.
Coincidence?

I have an extremely low opinion of the plastic surgery disaster Newperson..
Shit doesn't fall far from the arseh*le..

 

[Vicky Park]

With all today’s re-signings, delistings and promises of re-rookie-ings (my head hurts) - can we still add Condon to the list as a Cat B?

I assume the answer is yes, due to the Cat B thingy, and the AFL’s ridiculously complicated list structure.

 

[sr36]

With all today’s re-signings, delistings and promises of re-rookie-ings (my head hurts) - can we still add Condon to the list as a Cat B?

I assume the answer is yes, due to the Cat B thingy, and the AFL’s ridiculously complicated list structure.

Your assumption is correct.

 

[Apex36]

With all today’s re-signings, delistings and promises of re-rookie-ings (my head hurts) - can we still add Condon to the list as a Cat B?

I assume the answer is yes, due to the Cat B thingy, and the AFL’s ridiculously complicated list structure.

Yes

 

[Jen2310]

With all today’s re-signings, delistings and promises of re-rookie-ings (my head hurts) - can we still add Condon to the list as a Cat B?

I assume the answer is yes, due to the Cat B thingy, and the AFL’s ridiculously complicated list structure.

Yup because Condon, Like Parker is cat B (where there is a spot available - Each club gets 2 cat B spots, used to be three pre-covid)

 

[The_Anvil]

Yup because Condon, Like Parker is cat B (where there is a spot available - Each club gets 2 cat B spots, used to be three pre-covid)

Would have to be the first time in AFL history that one club has had 2 cat B rookies that were touted first round draft picks back in the day

 

[Jen2310]

Would have to be the first time in AFL history that one club has had 2 cat B rookies that were touted first round draft picks back in the day

Yeah, would be pretty rare

 

[Anzacday]

Hey VP that’s a yes.

 

[76woodenspooners]

It's been done to death before but here goes again - Big Mase was an accidental basketballer. He never played an organised game until college*. He was a soccer goalie.

* I do find it hard to believe that no one in his immediate vicinity - say a high school teacher - thought it might be an idea to chuck him on a court.

Mason Cox isn’t the only soccer goalie we’ve picked up.

The other one is going into his 17 season in the AFL …

Spoiler

Lachlan Keeffe

Maybe this whole “Basketball background” thing is BS (Shae Mac, Wyatt, Madgen, Wilson) and “Soccer background” is where it’s at!?

 

[loki04]

He’s not exactly skinny either.
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104 for his height isn't huge, for example Cox is 110cm and can look skinny on field at times.

 

[76woodenspooners]

104 for his height isn't huge, for example Cox is 110cm and can look skinny on field at times.

Vertical stripes are slimming.

 

[neilk]

Mason Cox isn’t the only soccer goalie we’ve picked up.

The other one is going into his 17 season in the AFL …

Spoiler

Lachlan Keeffe

Maybe this whole “Basketball background” thing is BS (Shae Mac, Wyatt, Madgen, Wilson) and “Soccer background” is where it’s at!?

Didn't Keeffe also have a soccer background?

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

With all today’s re-signings, delistings and promises of re-rookie-ings (my head hurts) - can we still add Condon to the list as a Cat B?

I assume the answer is yes, due to the Cat B thingy, and the AFL’s ridiculously complicated list structure.

Cat Bs can be signed at any point in the year. The only difference is whether they're signed pre- or post-MSD each year. That has an impact on their base salary.

 

[gouki88]

104 for his height isn't huge, for example Cox is 110cm and can look skinny on field at times.

It's decently heavy for a 19 year-old basketballer.

 

[loki04]

It's decently heavy for a 19 year-old basketballer.

Yeah that is true. Not sure why I thought he was a bit older then that too.