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[Carringbush2010]

Well in everything in life there is a line that divides between affordable and non affordable.
That line is being changed.
And that line is already artificial by the way borrowing on a second property is handled. Government tax breaks for second properties are keeping people out of being first home buyers. Why aren’t they given incentives like this?
The line to invest has always been a floating one, don’t whinge when suddenly you are on the wrong side of it.

Correct, always has been and always will be.

I used to be an unaffordable, now can afford, it's not like your born to be forever affording or not. For some it's easier to get there than others, that's life, life isn't fair - that is certain.

Costs like land tax, food, petrol, supply chain you name it, always get passed onto the the end user.

In this case the tenant does, however like I said, I don't wanna raise the rent but maybe forced to. Guess that makes me a bad person right?

Neg gearing is not the panacea that you seem to be making it out, the property value is what the attraction to property is, not neg gearing. Nor is it the driver of property value, that would be a moronic view to take.

There are many factors that put housing out of reach to those at the bottom of the socio economic table, not just tax breaks for property investors.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Ha!
Jealousy much?
One of the all time great Premiers.
That’s why people are flocking to Victoria and Melbourne is set to become the biggest city in Australia.
Even interstates love our Dan. No matter what Murdoch says!

 

[sideswipe]

Well in everything in life there is a line that divides between affordable and non affordable.
That line is being changed.
And that line is already artificial by the way borrowing on a second property is handled. Government tax breaks for second properties are keeping people out of being first home buyers. Why aren’t they given incentives like this?
The line to invest has always been a floating one, don’t whinge when suddenly you are on the wrong side of it.

In the BF tradition of posters who can’t play spouting footy wisdom, we also have someone like you talking about investment.


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[Markfs]

The thing that gets me about the current system is we are creating something like what is happening in california now....a significant percentage of people living in the gutter.

We had our couple of years without students to cover the part time economy and now it appear that either we have created a percentage of people who dont want to work, or we have employers who just dont want to train anyone. So the current unemployed are headed for the gutter.

Australian economy is now about digging holes which will be done more by robots or service industries which will be taken up by robots and building houses. Any home-grown intellectual property is sold off for a few million as multinationals hoover it up. Even the wide brown land itself is becoming less of an attraction for travellers and millionaires to live in once countries overseas become unliveable.

And we dont have enough homes at a time when we sell them to people overseas, or give tax breaks to investors, or allow a huge number lie vacant for airbnb.

I just wonder how the system is going to keep propped up when there will only be a small percentage of people working and/or living off capital. You can only imagine that welfare will go first, then health and subsidised education systems and then the pension. Some people say that the populace will need a basic cash benefit to survive but those with money will ask why if these people are not consuming and supporting the system. Of course, we might be lucky and not see the end of it because other things like climate change might get us first. I'm hoping that I'll be gone by that stage.

 

[Black_White]

Well, you could always emigrate to QLD.
Apparently QLD is better than Victoria, that’s why everyone’s heading there.
Oh wait! They’re all all heading to DanLand!
That’s what happens when you create a place of opportunity.

 

[Black_White]

So now we are subsidising the slumlords to the tune of 50 billion a year!
Got to stop this rort now.

Landlord tax deductions soar as interest rates bite property market

Soaring interest rates are hitting all mortgage holders including landlords, who will pass on some of the cost to the federal budget.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Anzacday]

Got to stop this rort now.

Get more bang for your buck, (although harder to do) if the real rorts were stopped.

 

[jathanas]

The state ALP narrative is to point to the Reserve Bank and the pandemic (27% of the burden) as the major reasons for the state finding itself on a debt cliff.

73% of the state's debt has nothing to do with the pandemic.

The way the ALP has communicated on the debt is politically clever (and so were their tax targets) but numbers are important.

 

[Black_White]

Get more bang for your buck, (although harder to do) if the real rorts were stopped.

One step at a time.
And this one’s an easy one.

 

[leon123]

So now we are subsidising the slumlords to the tune of 50 billion a year!
Got to stop this rort now.

Landlord tax deductions soar as interest rates bite property market

Soaring interest rates are hitting all mortgage holders including landlords, who will pass on some of the cost to the federal budget.

www.theage.com.au

I dont understand where the rort bit is. Investment classes do need to be treated on a equal playing field. Agree the cgt discount should be amended.

Happy to discuss, without being accused of a capitalist fat cat

 

[gouki88]

I dont understand where the rort bit is. Investment classes do need to be treated on a equal playing field. Agree the cgt discount should be amended.

Happy to discuss, without being accused of a capitalist fat cat

I have no interest in watching this discussion play out without such namecalling

 

[jathanas]

I dont understand where the rort bit is. Investment classes do need to be treated on a equal playing field. Agree the cgt discount should be amended.

Happy to discuss, without being accused of a capitalist fat cat

Your words did little more than divorce you from the proletariat.

Come the revolution, you've earned yourself a one-way express ticket to the reeducation academy.

 

[leon123]

Your words did little more than divorce you from the proletariat.

Come the revolution, you've earned yourself a one-way express ticket to the reeducation academy.

does this help my cause?

 

[Black_White]

Every day, every hour, every minute we move closer and closer to the society of the USofA.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/police-called-to-dan-andrews-office-over-suspicious-item/news-story/5992d40b83f9d1a498c49b88eeb1c5c1

No matter the Color of your politics, you and your family should never be subject to these types of threats.
We have seen how these things play out in the so-called land of the free. Please fight to keep it away from our shores.

 

[Nebula1971]

I will tell you that the wider Aboriginal community will be voting YES.

Worth listening to (7 minutes)

Grandmother Mulara shares her thoughts on the voice. She is an initiated Lore / Law Woman and also holds a Juris Doctor. She has studied Constitutional Law.

As we know, First Nations ppl are the sovereigns of this country and have never ceded their sovereignty.

She says that, in 1973, the founding constitution was changed, illegally. There was no referendum. We didn’t vote to agree on it. She says it is legal fiction.

She says that Aust became a ‘corporation’. Parliament became ‘sovereign’ and a Queen of Australia was invented. No such queen exists.

She says that the constitution on which we’re being asked to vote is the post 1973 version, which is a charter - a rule book for the corporation.

She says that a yes vote will mean that the original sovereigns, First Nations ppl, will cede sovereignty.

Parliament will have a greater say over them.

She says that most funding for First Nations ppl goes to ‘corporate blacks’, who are operating under the ‘corporate constitution’, where Parliament is sovereign, not First Nations ppl.

Very little funding goes to First Nations ppl who are living traditionally, caring for Country, in accordance with natural law.

Yes, First Nations ppl should be in the constitution - the original, founding, genuine constitution; not the 1973 corporate one, which is just rules for the corporation.

She says that a yes vote will put First Nations’ ppl’s sovereignty under parliament’s sovereignty.

She invites all Australians to walk w them into a new Dreaming.

She says our (questionable) parliament must not have any sovereignty over their original, natural lore / law.

She says we are being played emotionally. Most ppl will want what’s right for the original ppl. But we’re being lied to.




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[Black_White]

Worth listening to (7 minutes)

Grandmother Mulara shares her thoughts on the voice. She is an initiated Lore / Law Woman and also holds a Juris Doctor. She has studied Constitutional Law.

As we know, First Nations ppl are the sovereigns of this country and have never ceded their sovereignty.

She says that, in 1973, the founding constitution was changed, illegally. There was no referendum. We didn’t vote to agree on it. She says it is legal fiction.

She says that Aust became a ‘corporation’. Parliament became ‘sovereign’ and a Queen of Australia was invented. No such queen exists.

She says that the constitution on which we’re being asked to vote is the post 1973 version, which is a charter - a rule book for the corporation.

She says that a yes vote will mean that the original sovereigns, First Nations ppl, will cede sovereignty.

Parliament will have a greater say over them.

She says that most funding for First Nations ppl goes to ‘corporate blacks’, who are operating under the ‘corporate constitution’, where Parliament is sovereign, not First Nations ppl.

Very little funding goes to First Nations ppl who are living traditionally, caring for Country, in accordance with natural law.

Yes, First Nations ppl should be in the constitution - the original, founding, genuine constitution; not the 1973 corporate one, which is just rules for the corporation.

She says that a yes vote will put First Nations’ ppl’s sovereignty under parliament’s sovereignty.

She invites all Australians to walk w them into a new Dreaming.

She says our (questionable) parliament must not have any sovereignty over their original, natural lore / law.

She says we are being played emotionally. Most ppl will want what’s right for the original ppl. But we’re being lied to.




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The only way this amendment will get up, and change will occur, is if we put aside all this “sovereign” stuff.
You can argue all you like about whether Australia has a Queen (king now) but history shows we have had her and her ancestors.
What the yes campaign needs to do is concentrate unpicking the No campaign lies and disinformation . Not muddy the waters with historical grievances.

Indigenous Australians will not cede sovereignty under the Voice due to 1973 "change" to constitution

An online video has made the false claim that Indigenous Australians will cede sovereignty if a Yes vote in the Voice referendum is successful because of a "change" made to the constitution back in 1973.

www.rmit.edu.au

The video is proven to be misinformation.
Save yourself 7 minutes.

 

[gouki88]

Worth listening to (7 minutes)

Grandmother Mulara shares her thoughts on the voice. She is an initiated Lore / Law Woman and also holds a Juris Doctor. She has studied Constitutional Law.

As we know, First Nations ppl are the sovereigns of this country and have never ceded their sovereignty.

She says that, in 1973, the founding constitution was changed, illegally. There was no referendum. We didn’t vote to agree on it. She says it is legal fiction.

She says that Aust became a ‘corporation’. Parliament became ‘sovereign’ and a Queen of Australia was invented. No such queen exists.

She says that the constitution on which we’re being asked to vote is the post 1973 version, which is a charter - a rule book for the corporation.

She says that a yes vote will mean that the original sovereigns, First Nations ppl, will cede sovereignty.

Parliament will have a greater say over them.

She says that most funding for First Nations ppl goes to ‘corporate blacks’, who are operating under the ‘corporate constitution’, where Parliament is sovereign, not First Nations ppl.

Very little funding goes to First Nations ppl who are living traditionally, caring for Country, in accordance with natural law.

Yes, First Nations ppl should be in the constitution - the original, founding, genuine constitution; not the 1973 corporate one, which is just rules for the corporation.

She says that a yes vote will put First Nations’ ppl’s sovereignty under parliament’s sovereignty.

She invites all Australians to walk w them into a new Dreaming.

She says our (questionable) parliament must not have any sovereignty over their original, natural lore / law.

She says we are being played emotionally. Most ppl will want what’s right for the original ppl. But we’re being lied to.




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Nonsense video

 

[Markfs]

I had to laugh when i got to the rupert news site and read "Nurses, teachers and even lawyers are now turning up at food banks in Australia because they are struggling to afford groceries as the cost of living crisis mounts."

LOL lawyers....I can see the bloke representing the vic cross guy lining up for some welfare...."mate, I'm skint. I cant afford the pool guy to come around and the family hasnt been to snow since last month"

 

[NMBB]

I had to laugh when i got to the rupert news site and read "Nurses, teachers and even lawyers are now turning up at food banks in Australia because they are struggling to afford groceries as the cost of living crisis mounts."

LOL lawyers....I can see the bloke representing the vic cross guy lining up for some welfare...."mate, I'm skint. I cant afford the pool guy to come around and the family hasnt been to snow since last month"

 

[Markfs]

It gets better later in the article. The case study lawyer is rich. He's skimming money off the poor folk and overcharging his fellow rich. He has tons of money. Then he has two divorces and turns into a drunk and he's incredulous that people will feed him and charge him nothing.....he would have called them suckers in his earlier life

 

[Black_White]

Sitting in a hotel room in Melbourne watching “Mars Attacks”. Classic.
Good to see Tony has found a new career post politics.

 

[Black_White]

Two things for PM Albanese to address.
One being a minister caught in a lie. Sack her, immediately.
That shows strength and integrity.
Two is this;

66 people earned an average of $14.5 million in 2020-21. None of them paid a cent in tax to the ATO

Sixty-six people earned more than $14 million in the 2020-21 financial year, but new data from the Australian Taxation Office shows they paid zero income tax.

www.abc.net.au

Tax system is entirely broken when people in this wage bracket use the system to avoid paying even one cent in taxation while the average Joe continues to pay full share, and even more this year as the low income tax rebate has ended.

 

[Markfs]

Two things for PM Albanese to address.
One being a minister caught in a lie. Sack her, immediately.
That shows strength and integrity.
Two is this;

66 people earned an average of $14.5 million in 2020-21. None of them paid a cent in tax to the ATO

Sixty-six people earned more than $14 million in the 2020-21 financial year, but new data from the Australian Taxation Office shows they paid zero income tax.

www.abc.net.au

Tax system is entirely broken when people in this wage bracket use the system to avoid paying even one cent in taxation while the average Joe continues to pay full share, and even more this year as the low income tax rebate has ended.

i saw this article. I think it indicates that those in charge have got things exactly where they want them. Actually, there's been an increasing trend since the financial crisis. It's deliberate and by design...so I cant see how they would consider it broken

 

[NMBB]

....Two is this;

66 people earned an average of $14.5 million in 2020-21. None of them paid a cent in tax to the ATO

Sixty-six people earned more than $14 million in the 2020-21 financial year, but new data from the Australian Taxation Office shows they paid zero income tax.

www.abc.net.au

Tax system is entirely broken when people in this wage bracket use the system to avoid paying even one cent in taxation while the average Joe continues to pay full share, and even more this year as the low income tax rebate has ended.

Just get the hardest ars#d auditors on their case until they and their miserable tax "advisors" bleed from their toenails and squeal for mercy - then send more auditors.

 

[Markfs]

Just get the hardest ars#d auditors on their case until they and their miserable tax "advisors" bleed from their toenails and squeal for mercy - then send more auditors.

charge a flat tax with no deductions. get rid of trusts. make it illegal to establish companies in tax free locations. tax luzury goods more. employ people on incentive based salaries based on how much tax they can recover. change the laws and tax rulings to simplify the system