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Pick 1...
How did it go? Lollooks like the nag I backed at Bairnsdale Races yesterday.
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Tiger_Of_Old
THE_GUN:"Why don't you use your reg acc"7/9/24
Switched on.
Oh yeah!!! Well done _RT_ I love reading about the players that played in those '30 GF's...characters all of them...and some could play footy as well!
Pick 121
peterbuch74
Norm Smith Medallist
- Oct 10, 2007
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With the 121st pick, the PB74's select HAVEL ROWE
Rowe (full name Stuart Havel Rowe) was a shining light for Richmond throughout the Club’s barren decade of the 1950s.
He had played school football at Geelong College before moving to Melbourne, where he joined amateur club Ormond.
It was during his time at Ormond that Rowe attracted the attention of the Tigers with his all-round skills set.
They sent the big guns out to Ormond to convince Rowe that his football career would be best served at Tigerland.
“Jack Dyer (Richmond’s captain-coach) and Maurie Fleming (the Club’s renowned secretary) came over to a pie night one time and convinced me to go to Richmond,” Rowe recalled in Rhett Bartlett’s excellent book, ‘Richmond FC: A Century of League Football’.
“I admired Jack, he was a terrific bloke, great approach, very friendly.
“I lived in Caulfield at the time, it was a Melbourne area. I just moved from the country and I had about six weeks to make up my mind or else I was a Melbourne player, because you had to live in the area for 12 months.
“So I made up my mind and decided I would go to Richmond.
“I went down and trained with them at the end of that year when I finished with the Amateurs . . .”
Rowe made his senior league debut with the Tigers in Round 5 of the 1948 season against Essendon at Windy Hill, just a week after turning 20.
It was a hectic time for him because he was studying accounting and had an exam the night before that clash with the Bombers.
“It was a two-hour exam and I finished it in an hour and then I was home ready for the match the next day,” Rowe said.
“I played on the wing and played against (Essendon’s) Chris Lambert . . . I played pretty well.
“Dyer was full-forward and he came steaming out for a pass and I came running around the boundary bouncing the ball and I hit him on the chest with a stab pass.
“I came in at half-time and he said, ‘Next time put the lace out, will you please’ . . .”
Rowe’s senior debut with the Tigers was all the more memorable due to the match finishing in a draw (Richmond 14.11 to Essendon 13.17).
“When I came off, Bill Morris, who was the star ruckman and won his Brownlow that year, gave me a big hug for doing well,” he said.
Rowe would show promising signs in a further seven appearances for Richmond’s senior side during the ’48 season.
It took him until 1952, however, before he cemented a place in the Tigers’ main line-up.
He played 16 games that season and regularly figured among the team’s best players.
The best season of Rowe’s 10-year league career followed in 1953.
Although Richmond won only three games, drew one, and finished 10th (of 12 teams), avoiding the wooden spoon by just two points, Rowe shone throughout.
The then 25-year-old played all 18 games and capped off an excellent individual season by winning the Club’s Best and Fairest award.
“It (1953) was the first year I was really in the centre for the whole year,” Rowe said.
“The year I won the Best and Fairest, I didn’t get a vote in the Brownlow.
“Bill Hutchison won the Brownlow in 1953 and he got votes in the last match, but I reckon I was the best player on the ground.
“That happened to me a couple of times.
“I played against (Essendon’s) Jack Clarke in the centre and he got three votes in the paper and I reckon I beat him.
“That was my game . . . I was more an under-the-pack player, rather than spectacular. But people look for that spectacular side of people that I didn’t have. I wasn’t a high mark, but I reckon I was a solid mark.”
Another feature of Rowe’s game was his handball, which was used sparingly, to say the least, in league football back then.
“They reckon I was the only one who handballed in my day,” Rowe said.
“Dyer mentioned later he thought I was before my time because I used to think about what was going on.
“When I was on the half-forward flank, Geoff Spring was often on the wing, and he had terrific pace. He used to come running past and I would flip him the pass.
“It was just a pattern of play. It was man-to-man and it was quick-paced.”
Rowe went on to play 124 games with Richmond, before retiring at the end of the 1957 season.
He had provided the Tigers with fine value playing in a variety of on-field roles – wing, centre and half-forward – through some particularly tough times for the team.
That same year (1957), Rowe was honoured with Richmond life membership.
Six decades later (in 2015), the Tigers inducted Rowe into their Hall of Fame.
He had a long association with the Richmond Former Players and Association.
PB74's team
B: L.Cameron D.Gaspar N.Vlastuin
HB: C.Newman xxxxxxxx M.Gale
C: xxxxxxxxx M.Mitchell H.Rowe
HF: J.Northey B.Gale K.Lambert
F: xxxxxxxxx M.Roach xxxxxxxx
FOL: I.Maric B.Wilson D.Weightman
IC: xx xx xx xx
richard parker you're up
Rowe (full name Stuart Havel Rowe) was a shining light for Richmond throughout the Club’s barren decade of the 1950s.
He had played school football at Geelong College before moving to Melbourne, where he joined amateur club Ormond.
It was during his time at Ormond that Rowe attracted the attention of the Tigers with his all-round skills set.
They sent the big guns out to Ormond to convince Rowe that his football career would be best served at Tigerland.
“Jack Dyer (Richmond’s captain-coach) and Maurie Fleming (the Club’s renowned secretary) came over to a pie night one time and convinced me to go to Richmond,” Rowe recalled in Rhett Bartlett’s excellent book, ‘Richmond FC: A Century of League Football’.
“I admired Jack, he was a terrific bloke, great approach, very friendly.
“I lived in Caulfield at the time, it was a Melbourne area. I just moved from the country and I had about six weeks to make up my mind or else I was a Melbourne player, because you had to live in the area for 12 months.
“So I made up my mind and decided I would go to Richmond.
“I went down and trained with them at the end of that year when I finished with the Amateurs . . .”
Rowe made his senior league debut with the Tigers in Round 5 of the 1948 season against Essendon at Windy Hill, just a week after turning 20.
It was a hectic time for him because he was studying accounting and had an exam the night before that clash with the Bombers.
“It was a two-hour exam and I finished it in an hour and then I was home ready for the match the next day,” Rowe said.
“I played on the wing and played against (Essendon’s) Chris Lambert . . . I played pretty well.
“Dyer was full-forward and he came steaming out for a pass and I came running around the boundary bouncing the ball and I hit him on the chest with a stab pass.
“I came in at half-time and he said, ‘Next time put the lace out, will you please’ . . .”
Rowe’s senior debut with the Tigers was all the more memorable due to the match finishing in a draw (Richmond 14.11 to Essendon 13.17).
“When I came off, Bill Morris, who was the star ruckman and won his Brownlow that year, gave me a big hug for doing well,” he said.
Rowe would show promising signs in a further seven appearances for Richmond’s senior side during the ’48 season.
It took him until 1952, however, before he cemented a place in the Tigers’ main line-up.
He played 16 games that season and regularly figured among the team’s best players.
The best season of Rowe’s 10-year league career followed in 1953.
Although Richmond won only three games, drew one, and finished 10th (of 12 teams), avoiding the wooden spoon by just two points, Rowe shone throughout.
The then 25-year-old played all 18 games and capped off an excellent individual season by winning the Club’s Best and Fairest award.
“It (1953) was the first year I was really in the centre for the whole year,” Rowe said.
“The year I won the Best and Fairest, I didn’t get a vote in the Brownlow.
“Bill Hutchison won the Brownlow in 1953 and he got votes in the last match, but I reckon I was the best player on the ground.
“That happened to me a couple of times.
“I played against (Essendon’s) Jack Clarke in the centre and he got three votes in the paper and I reckon I beat him.
“That was my game . . . I was more an under-the-pack player, rather than spectacular. But people look for that spectacular side of people that I didn’t have. I wasn’t a high mark, but I reckon I was a solid mark.”
Another feature of Rowe’s game was his handball, which was used sparingly, to say the least, in league football back then.
“They reckon I was the only one who handballed in my day,” Rowe said.
“Dyer mentioned later he thought I was before my time because I used to think about what was going on.
“When I was on the half-forward flank, Geoff Spring was often on the wing, and he had terrific pace. He used to come running past and I would flip him the pass.
“It was just a pattern of play. It was man-to-man and it was quick-paced.”
Rowe went on to play 124 games with Richmond, before retiring at the end of the 1957 season.
He had provided the Tigers with fine value playing in a variety of on-field roles – wing, centre and half-forward – through some particularly tough times for the team.
That same year (1957), Rowe was honoured with Richmond life membership.
Six decades later (in 2015), the Tigers inducted Rowe into their Hall of Fame.
He had a long association with the Richmond Former Players and Association.
PB74's team
B: L.Cameron D.Gaspar N.Vlastuin
HB: C.Newman xxxxxxxx M.Gale
C: xxxxxxxxx M.Mitchell H.Rowe
HF: J.Northey B.Gale K.Lambert
F: xxxxxxxxx M.Roach xxxxxxxx
FOL: I.Maric B.Wilson D.Weightman
IC: xx xx xx xx
richard parker you're up
Phar Ace
Brownlow Medallist
Of course, I get that entirely, and it is all relative for the era, but as footballers, their skills as we know them where inferior for a whole range of reasons. It is by no means an attempt to demean - just a statement of fact. In fact I also said some are out and out legends too - and Dan Minogue was one such player. It just makes it very hard to do a valid comparision is what I am really saying, especially after seeing some footage of game play of the era. All that said, the old adage of a champion team will beat a team of champions has always applied in VFL/AFL
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I get that Phar Ace ...in their day they only had to beat the oppo...it's all you could ask of them...
And some were giants and prolly with today's training prolly be even better giants...who really knows...but it's fun to wonder!
I love all the background 'noise' that goes with discussing our past players...espesh picking an all time great team...
Phar Ace
Brownlow Medallist
Agreed. Imagine Jack Dyer and Dan Minogue getting all the conditions that Dusty Martin gets - extreme and excessive wages so no need to work, full time training, games with 12 new balls every game, grounds like bowling greens, elite comfortable footwear, all the medical science advances, the training and game vision to review and plan with and deter king hits, the abundance of support staff, the statistical detail..........
I think we make lesser players better these days.
However, I bet they had the same shit umpiring from time to time..................................... some things never change!
Pick 122
- Feb 11, 2016
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Pick 122 - Nathan Broad
Underrated gun. Plays his role to perfection. A very versatile defender who can play on talls or smalls. His accountability is second to none but he can rebound very effectively too. He has improved year on year since being drafted at pick 67 in 2015. This combination of quality counter attack with tight accountability stems from a nice skill set that includes elite endurance and repeat sprints, tidy kicking (that has gradually become more accurate and damaging), clean hands, good tackler, strength, decent mark, great spoiler, and an ability to always choose the simple, sensible and predictable option to kick to. He is also courageous and loves a one-percenter. He is not flashy but geez he's a valuable player to have on the whiteboard.
Won his first flag in game number ten and has won three in total.
Richard Parker's Team
B: Nathan Broad | Scott Turner | XX
HB: Basil McCormack | XX | XX
C: XX | Trent Cotchin | Allan Geddes
HF: Sydney Stack | Michael Pickering | Brett Deledio
F: Billy Brown | Jeff Hogg | XX
Fol: Toby Nankervis | Wayne Campbell | Shane Edwards
IC: N.Crowe | XX | XX | XX
Underrated gun. Plays his role to perfection. A very versatile defender who can play on talls or smalls. His accountability is second to none but he can rebound very effectively too. He has improved year on year since being drafted at pick 67 in 2015. This combination of quality counter attack with tight accountability stems from a nice skill set that includes elite endurance and repeat sprints, tidy kicking (that has gradually become more accurate and damaging), clean hands, good tackler, strength, decent mark, great spoiler, and an ability to always choose the simple, sensible and predictable option to kick to. He is also courageous and loves a one-percenter. He is not flashy but geez he's a valuable player to have on the whiteboard.
Won his first flag in game number ten and has won three in total.
Richard Parker's Team
B: Nathan Broad | Scott Turner | XX
HB: Basil McCormack | XX | XX
C: XX | Trent Cotchin | Allan Geddes
HF: Sydney Stack | Michael Pickering | Brett Deledio
F: Billy Brown | Jeff Hogg | XX
Fol: Toby Nankervis | Wayne Campbell | Shane Edwards
IC: N.Crowe | XX | XX | XX
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Pick 123
- May 8, 2019
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Pick 123- Kevin O'Neill
Games- 209
Goals - 12
2 x Premierships (1932, 1934)
Richmond Hall Of Fame
The son of a former Richmond player from its days in the VFA, O'Neill was a member of the Tigers' legendary "Three Musketeers" backline of Bolger, Sheahan and O'Neill. He played in four straight senior Grand Finals from 1931 to 1934, winning the premiership in 1932 and 1934. He also played in Richmond's losing Grand Final side of 1940.
O'Neill represented Victoria on ten occasions, as State vice-captain for an Interstate Carnival, and was awarded Life Membership of the Richmond Football Club in 1939
Barunga Bullets Team
B: Malthouse xx O'Neill
HB: bowden, Jess, K. Morris
C: Clay Stewart xx
HF: Daffy Richardson Egan
F: holland Lynch O'rourke
FOL: xx foley xx
IC: xx xx xx xx
Games- 209
Goals - 12
2 x Premierships (1932, 1934)
Richmond Hall Of Fame
The son of a former Richmond player from its days in the VFA, O'Neill was a member of the Tigers' legendary "Three Musketeers" backline of Bolger, Sheahan and O'Neill. He played in four straight senior Grand Finals from 1931 to 1934, winning the premiership in 1932 and 1934. He also played in Richmond's losing Grand Final side of 1940.
O'Neill represented Victoria on ten occasions, as State vice-captain for an Interstate Carnival, and was awarded Life Membership of the Richmond Football Club in 1939
Barunga Bullets Team
B: Malthouse xx O'Neill
HB: bowden, Jess, K. Morris
C: Clay Stewart xx
HF: Daffy Richardson Egan
F: holland Lynch O'rourke
FOL: xx foley xx
IC: xx xx xx xx
- May 8, 2019
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Tiger_Of_Old you're up
BB you have picked one solid defensive unit...❤
Pick 124
Tiger_Of_Old
THE_GUN:"Why don't you use your reg acc"7/9/24
Pick 124-Chris Bond.
2nd best player too cross from the Bloos to us.
To save on my salary and soft cap he can double up as my Football Manager.
richoatthedisco
2nd best player too cross from the Bloos to us.
To save on my salary and soft cap he can double up as my Football Manager.
richoatthedisco
- May 8, 2019
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we should of just skipped you haha damn it
Tiger_Of_Old
THE_GUN:"Why don't you use your reg acc"7/9/24
Just another B to the list.
Pick 125
Pick 125 - Mark Merenda
Injuries limited Chocco's career to just 75 games and 62 goals for Richmond (plus 26/26 for West Coast) but at his best he would walk onto the half-forward-flank of any team in history. Quick, powerful, skilled, tough and great in the air, Merenda was a regular in the 1995 prelim team but his best season came the next year when he played every game, averaged 19 disposals and a goal a game and racked up 15 Brownlow votes, just six behind winners Michael Voss and James Hird.
Merenda was brilliant that year and extremely consistent considering the half-forward-flank can be a ghost town. He did roll through the midfield a bit too, his power, strength over the ball and ball-handling an asset at clearances. After collecting 19, 26 and 22 possessions in the first three rounds, he had an amazing month of footy with 26 disposals and 2 Brownlow votes (and a brutal but fair KO of poor old Scott Direen) in a 1-point loss to Sydney, 23, a goal and 2 votes in a 3-point loss at Krapdinia Park, then consecutive BOGs with 26 and 2 goals against Fitzroy and 21 and 5 goals against the Dogs. He had 35 disposals in the return game against the Scats, 29 and a goal against the Bummers, 25 and a goal against the Hawks, 3 goals against the Roos and 2 in the return game against Sydney.
We only briefly saw the best of Merenda, but goddamn it was good.
Yeah, this is for West Coast, but shows the kind of thing he could do.
One of my favourites.
Wacky Tiger
Injuries limited Chocco's career to just 75 games and 62 goals for Richmond (plus 26/26 for West Coast) but at his best he would walk onto the half-forward-flank of any team in history. Quick, powerful, skilled, tough and great in the air, Merenda was a regular in the 1995 prelim team but his best season came the next year when he played every game, averaged 19 disposals and a goal a game and racked up 15 Brownlow votes, just six behind winners Michael Voss and James Hird.
Merenda was brilliant that year and extremely consistent considering the half-forward-flank can be a ghost town. He did roll through the midfield a bit too, his power, strength over the ball and ball-handling an asset at clearances. After collecting 19, 26 and 22 possessions in the first three rounds, he had an amazing month of footy with 26 disposals and 2 Brownlow votes (and a brutal but fair KO of poor old Scott Direen) in a 1-point loss to Sydney, 23, a goal and 2 votes in a 3-point loss at Krapdinia Park, then consecutive BOGs with 26 and 2 goals against Fitzroy and 21 and 5 goals against the Dogs. He had 35 disposals in the return game against the Scats, 29 and a goal against the Bummers, 25 and a goal against the Hawks, 3 goals against the Roos and 2 in the return game against Sydney.
We only briefly saw the best of Merenda, but goddamn it was good.
Yeah, this is for West Coast, but shows the kind of thing he could do.
One of my favourites.
Wacky Tiger
- Oct 19, 2020
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No Stewart Maxfield yet?
- May 8, 2019
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he was pick 83
- Oct 19, 2020
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Jamie Tape was underated.
tigs2010
Pick 1...
Who is going to pick Justin Murphy based off that 1 good game he played?
Tiger_Of_Old
THE_GUN:"Why don't you use your reg acc"7/9/24
I missed that game unfortunately
