Are we in in for a 0 win season with <50% ?

[Philth]

We win 4-6, we wont be nearly as bad as people are predicting. Players were checked out this year, even Baker admitted he was, then Shai as well and Dusty taking the piss choosing when to train and play, how could the rest of the team take it seriously. Next year everyone will be onboard. In the modern game if you bring pressure and have a crack, you can beat anyone (like the Swans game last year).

Correct.
We will be in a red hot battle with North for the spoon next year.

 

[Do the Dew]

Like how you conviently left out the part where he won a flag inbetweem all that. Don't we 'love our boys' until they are cut or traded, then they are all shit, apparently. Markov is a high quality guy & excellent clubman. Could do a lost worse than picking him up for literal nothing.

Stringer would be a walk-up start in our forward-line and likely be the most talented bloke in it most weeks. He just got traded for pick 67. Jake is younger than Tom Lynch & kicked over 350 goals in his career and is less than 100goals behind Tom for his whole career.

I would take either of these blokes in our starting 18 next year over K-Mac, Dow, Ryan.

People saying we will win 6-7 games - where is the logic. We won TWO last year & lost by tons every week.

Out: Martin. Bolton. D.Rioli. Baker. Pickett. Graham. Grimes. Cumberland. Naismith.

In. Not a single game of AFL experience

Lynch. Prestia. Toby all get 1 year older and absolutely no reason to believe they will have better lack with injuries. Same with Hopper, who looks like an old Kane Johnson at best even when fit. Gibcus has missed 2 years of footy. J.Clarke, Lefau & Young all go into the season unlikely to feature until July.

Who makes a meaningful leap this season Vs taking a noteable fall in form? There is not a single drop of reasoning except hope to how we would win 7 games, let along.

In 40+ years of following AFL i can't remember a team playing and performing as poorly as we did this year, lose so many players & do not a single thing to make the team more competitve the next year. The draft picks are great, but ffs - there were some legit talented AFL journeyman available either completely free or incredibly cheap - would it have killed us to chase 1 or 2 to just TRY and get a lil better in some areas?

How could Stringer be really good and also worth pick 67...?

We're clearly on the developing the kids route so there's no point in getting rid of draft capital to top up with the rejects from other clubs that you suggested. Only reason we'd do that is if we're in a flag window and having a back-up forward or ruck etc. is useful.

I'm sure Markov is a good guy, but he's not a player that would turn the club around on field. He won a flag in a Pies team that had the worst finals percentage of any premiership team potentially ever, and were incredibly lucky to even make the grand final, let alone win it. Billy Frampton also won a flag, doesn't say much about the player.

We've also gone down the top up path when we brought over Tarrant from Norf, and that potentially stifled the development of one of our young defenders.

There's also some extremely obvious extenuating circumstances with our performance last season. Old coach abandoned us, premiership stars retiring, new coach/gameplan came in, and the worst injury run we've likely ever had. I'm not saying we're gonna bounce back up the ladder, but I expect if we can get a decent run at it, keep developing the younger players, we'll be competing for finals again in a few years. The last point is we have a ton of money to throw at some free agents in the next couple of years rather than spend it on rejects from other clubs.

 

[db26]

We're looking for green shoots next year the most important and a few wins

 

[Drunken Wookie]

We need to top up with DFAs, get as many as we can in, scientifically speaking it’s a good idea.

 

[sabso]

We need to top up with DFAs, get as many as we can in, scientifically speaking it’s a good idea.

palm tree man has taught me that dfa is a really blatant way of cheating the system. Weirdly none of the flakes from other teams want to come to Richmond, they want to go to st dildo or the bummers

 

[rammmbo]

Yeah I do think its a real possibility we won't win a game but hopefully we can be competitive sometimes and see some signs in the young players.

 

[SplintWhisky]

What's the rules for priority picks? If we have a 1 win season then doesn't that get us to 13 wins over 3 seasons? Average of 4.33 wins a year? Would love to see the collective AFL world lose their shit at a priority pick especially if we do some smart deals for 23 and 24 and top up in the first round.

Imagine going to the draft with Pick 1, Priority pick, North Melbourne First, 2 extra firsts

 

[sabso]

Guys a 0 win season will put the afl on track to shut us down and merge our zombified souls into some shitmuncher franchise out east

 

[Ceehook]

last year we had the rebuild elephant in the room
and maybe the transition away from Dimma era elephant

I think fair to say they are gone
we are in rebuild mode and are allowed to get excited by the prospects our pick hand could deliver

with the departures and the bottom out the Dimma/Kingsley/Mini/Xav Clarke era has finished and we are in a new era

Can we bounce up in 2025 or is that too soon ?

We will have, in theory , a softer draw , we can bank on that and that we will have excitement within the club
the ifs and maybes are around injuries to our older players
and the group below them , will any have break out years ?

I can see real positives if one of Lefau , Fawcett or Gray can play along side Lynch for a good run of games

with two talls in the forward line playing well , getting marks , bringing ball to ground , all of a sudden you start to look like you can kick a winning score

but it hinges on Lynch staying fit .... tigers supporters grimmace and quietly shed a tear

and thats before we talk midfield

 

[Dr Tigris]

What's the rules for priority picks? If we have a 1 win season then doesn't that get us to 13 wins over 3 seasons? Average of 4.33 wins a year? Would love to see the collective AFL world lose their shit at a priority pick especially if we do some smart deals for 23 and 24 and top up in the first round.

Imagine going to the draft with Pick 1, Priority pick, North Melbourne First, 2 extra firsts

Whatever the AFL decides the rules are. Typically:
1) You are an AFL love child - Not the RFC
2) Extended period of being incredibly, direly, unbelievably, terribly, bad - Not the RFC
3) The AFL sees that you coming back would be worth $ - Not the RFC ... as yet
4) Some random crap that makes no sense from the outside - ?
5) The AFL wants to facilitate a story (i.e. GAJ back to Geelong) - Not the RFC
6) Being incredibly poorly run so that although you finish at the bottom year on year you can't get good picks because you've traded them away and/or picked and developed really badly. - Not the RFC


We're not in a the zone for some time. Stay bottom of 2 more years and maybe rules 2 dn 6 might come into play. Maybe make that 4 years.

 

[Madtiger2006]

We’ll give Carl a nudge round 1 like this year. Our home game big crowd

 

[RJK Tiger]

How could Stringer be really good and also worth pick 67...?

We're clearly on the developing the kids route so there's no point in getting rid of draft capital to top up with the rejects from other clubs that you suggested. Only reason we'd do that is if we're in a flag window and having a back-up forward or ruck etc. is useful.

I'm sure Markov is a good guy, but he's not a player that would turn the club around on field. He won a flag in a Pies team that had the worst finals percentage of any premiership team potentially ever, and were incredibly lucky to even make the grand final, let alone win it. Billy Frampton also won a flag, doesn't say much about the player.

We've also gone down the top up path when we brought over Tarrant from Norf, and that potentially stifled the development of one of our young defenders.

There's also some extremely obvious extenuating circumstances with our performance last season. Old coach abandoned us, premiership stars retiring, new coach/gameplan came in, and the worst injury run we've likely ever had. I'm not saying we're gonna bounce back up the ladder, but I expect if we can get a decent run at it, keep developing the younger players, we'll be competing for finals again in a few years. The last point is we have a ton of money to throw at some free agents in the next couple of years rather than spend it on rejects from other clubs.

Lol - mate i only read the first line and didnt even bother on the rest

How can Stringer be worth pick 67 and still be "good"? The same way Jesse Hogan got traded for pick 54 (again to the Giants) and was still good. Get A clue, Dew

 

[smasha]

WDGAF
Onward The Tigers!

 

[docko911]

No pressure but Brown, Banks, HRS, MRJ, Mansell, Ross and Miller need to step up next year.

If any of Dow, Sonsie, Ryan or Kozi can as well that would be a big win.

These are basically the guys we need to improve the most as they are the older and more experienced players on our list that aren’t fully established in our best 22. Without them, we are working with a list of older experienced players close to retirement, young 1-3 year players, slightly older players with injury concerns, and Balta.

We either have a big list gap or we don’t. If Clarke, Lefau, Gibcus and Young can all come right it will further help close it. Fingers crossed or this rebuild really will take 4-6 years.