Teams Arizona Cardinals - The Buzzsaw

[The_Todd07]

Desperately need Conner back.

Byron Murphy got lit up too. Thin back there. Robert Alford any chance to return? Hopefully Marco Wilson for some depth.

Alford is expected back next week
Hopefully Conner too
And anyone else who can get themselves healthy would be lovely

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Markus Golden maybe

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

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[The_Todd07]

It's sad how predictable losing to Seattle today was

Only bright spark is that it's going to very unlikely that we will have to play a playoff game at home

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

[The_Todd07]

I've never seen a team forget how to play this badly before

And I've had to sit through Geelong in the finals for the last 10 years

 

[Exe Gesis]

Third year in a row Kingsburys Cards have capitulated down the stretch.

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Should be fired,not head coaching material.

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

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[Exe Gesis]

Kyler Murray makes weak closing argument for second contract​

Posted by Mike Florio on January 18, 2022, 3:36 PM EST

The primary goal for Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray on Monday night was, obviously, to win his first ever NFL playoff game. An important secondary objective lingered just below the surface.
With Murray eligible for a second contract, he needed a strong performance to position himself for a major deal in the 2022 offseason.

Last night’s showing will make it very difficult for Murray to get Josh Allen money or Dak Precott money or Patrick Mahomes money or any money close to the money paid at the top of the market. The most jarring aspect of Murray’s performance came from the lack of runs. Two carries, six yards.

With the season on the line, two carries for six yards can’t be the final stat line for the most dynamic running quarterback in football.

Look at what the Bills did on Saturday night. Josh Allen set the tone with a 26-yard sprint on the opening drive. Utilizing the run threat gets defenses on their heels, opening up the passing game just a little bit more because they’re watching and waiting to be gashed again by a fleet-footed quarterback who decides to tuck and run, either by design before the snap or on the fly.

Two carries. Six yards. It can’t happen, especially with receiver DeAndre Hopkins not present to draw extra attention.

Murray generally ran less in 2021, with his averaging attempts per game falling from 8.3 in 2020 to 6.2 in 2021. Before last night, however, he never had fewer than four attempts on the season. He last had only two attempts in the final game of the 2020 regular season, an 18-7 loss to the Rams.

Perhaps his ankle is still bothering him. Or maybe the game plan was to zig when the Rams expected a zag. Regardless, coach Kliff Kingsbury was expecting Murray to play the biggest game of his career. The end result was a far cry from that.

It creates a real question as to whether the Cardinals will offer him a contract now, or whether they’ll wait until after he completes his fourth season. If it’s the latter, the question then becomes whether Murray will be happy with that development, given that he’s still playing under a CBA-limited rookie deal when he has shown he can perform at a high level.

For 99.9 percent of all NFL quarterbacks, the unhappiness of a player under contract for multiple years doesn’t matter. For Murray, who was a top-10 pick in the MLB draft and who is still only 24, he continues to have a solid alternative for making big money as a pro athlete.

 

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[A11dAtP0w3R]

That seems brutal. Really relying on the cap increase.

 

[Exe Gesis]

That seems brutal. Really relying on the cap increase.

And KM1 probably wants a new contract....but i think we see Kingsbury fired and Murray traded instead end of 22

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

And KM1 probably wants a new contract....but i think we see Kingsbury fired and Murray traded instead end of 22

I think Hopkins or Baker being traded is more likely than Murray being traded despite his awful performance yesterday. Most likely Hopkins in a Julio style trade to the Titans, for a 2nd and 4th, something like that, Cards select a WR in the draft to replace him with.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

The JJ Watt contract will be pretty much immoveable.

 

[Exe Gesis]

I think Hopkins or Baker being traded is more likely than Murray being traded despite his awful performance yesterday. Most likely Hopkins in a Julio style trade to the Titans, for a 2nd and 4th, something like that, Cards select a WR in the draft to replace him with.

Theyre ****ed without Hopkins tho. Murray cant generate without him. Hopkins can generate without Murray. Youre probably right ...the okder Hopkins for picks. Keep developing Murray. But the only reason they took Murray was because Kingsbury insisted for his own scheme. So if Kingsbury flops in 22, and they fire him, it neans a new HC one who will have his own scheme and methodology, and so Murray can fetch picks, good ones, new HC drafts his own QB.

Theyll probably end up a whole different looking team in 2 years anyway....no Hopkins, Murray, Watt etc

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Theyre f’ed without Hopkins tho. Murray cant generate without him. Hopkins can generate without Murray. Youre probably right ...the okder Hopkins for picks. Keep developing Murray. But the only reason they took Murray was because Kingsbury insisted for his own scheme. So if Kingsbury flops in 22, and they fire him, it neans a new HC one who will have his own scheme and methodology, and so Murray can fetch picks, good ones, new HC drafts his own QB.

Theyll probably end up a whole different looking team in 2 years anyway....no Hopkins, Murray, Watt etc

I agree, Murray without Hopkins is very ordinary, maybe they try and find another way, I just dont see how, its generally what teams do, cash in the receiver and find a cheaper alternative in the draft once the QB is coming off their rookie deal if they are up against the cap. A lot will probably depend on how Murray goes next year, but at this stage I dont think hes going anywhere, hes still young enough to continue to develop and become an excellent QB. Injuries are becoming a bit of an issue a common occurrence however.

I think they clearly need a different coach. Kingsbury is a front runner who cant make adjustments when shit hits the fan, Cards have enough talent to go deeper than week 1 of the playoffs.

 

[Brasher]

I think Hopkins or Baker being traded is more likely than Murray being traded despite his awful performance yesterday. Most likely Hopkins in a Julio style trade to the Titans, for a 2nd and 4th, something like that, Cards select a WR in the draft to replace him with.

If they trade Hopkins you may as well get rid of Murray too...I'll look up Murray's numbers without Hopkins gut feel is it won't be good.