Education & Reference arseh*le/creepy teachers from your childhood

[MCE]

I'd heartily agree with that. Whatever the Unis are teaching isn't helping. My wife is a qualified teacher and while she was at uni, it baffled me the shit they had to do assignments on. There was very little actual "teacher training." Instead of drumming the shit they need to know into them (obvious grammar, spelling and maths rules for starters), they were writing 3000 word essays about irrelevant stuff.

This!!! My wife has just started her Master of Education degree and she's baffled at some of the crap they're being told. To summarise:

• Since some students are poor they may not have eaten breakfast and therefore teachers can't be blamed if they don't learn.
• Students should not be taught skills that will make them useful in the workforce, instead they should be taught to be "socially criticial". A wank term if ever I've heard it.
• Similarly, trade schools are bad because nobody wants to be a tradesman. They're only forced into it by their parents.

And there's more. "Class" seems to be a big theme, and the lecturer apparently mentions frequently that she (of course it's a she) lives in the "snooty" suburb of Burnside. It's no wonder most teachers live in a fantasy land.

 

[frantelle]

This!!! My wife has just started her Master of Education degree and she's baffled at some of the crap they're being told. To summarise:

• Since some students are poor they may not have eaten breakfast and therefore teachers can't be blamed if they don't learn.
• Students should not be taught skills that will make them useful in the workforce, instead they should be taught to be "socially criticial". A wank term if ever I've heard it.
• Similarly, trade schools are bad because nobody wants to be a tradesman. They're only forced into it by their parents.

And there's more. "Class" seems to be a big theme, and the lecturer apparently mentions frequently that she (of course it's a she) lives in the "snooty" suburb of Burnside. It's no wonder most teachers live in a fantasy land.

Really? That is utterly pathetic if true

 

[Tex_21]

The third point is worse. Utter w***ery and social snobbery from the 'educated class'. And I've got postgrad qualifications.

Most of my mates are tradies though.

 

[HappyChappy35]

Had a nutjob relief teacher for one semester of Science in Year 7 (our usual teacher was on long service leave) who tried to get a kid suspended for simply calling the special Math class '****** Maths'.
And during one particularly boring class, she smashed a kids glasses in a fit of rage when he drew eyes on a piece of paper, cut them out, stuck them over the top of his glasses, and pretended to fall asleep so the class could have a bit of a laugh.
She ended up having to pay for a new pair, and eventually left the school at the end of the year (wonder why).

 

[emuboy]

Had a nutjob relief teacher for one semester of Science in Year 7 (our usual teacher was on long service leave) who tried to get a kid suspended for simply calling the special Math class '****** Maths'.
And during one particularly boring class, she smashed a kids glasses in a fit of rage when he drew eyes on a piece of paper, cut them out, stuck them over the top of his glasses, and pretended to fall asleep so the class could have a bit of a laugh.
She ended up having to pay for a new pair, and eventually left the school at the end of the year (wonder why).

She sounds like a music teacher that our combined Year 6/7 class drove to a near nervous breakdown. Everybody used to muck around in music, singing the wrong lyrics to songs, throwing paper & objects around the room, bursting bags and balloons and pretending to throw up when her back was turned. She contributed to her own demise, by getting us to sing these stupid songs that were for 7 year olds. What did she expect?

 

[brucetiki]

The third point is worse. Utter w***ery and social snobbery from the 'educated class'. And I've got postgrad qualifications.

Most of my mates are tradies though.

This is the reason we have a skills shortage. This train of thought was at it's peak in the 80's and 90's, when technical schools were closed down and the attitude being taught to kids was 'You won't get anywhere in life if you don't go to uni'. What we've ended up with as a result is uni graduates working in supermarkets and a skills shortage in many trades.

It's only been in the past few years where this attitude has started to change and a few private trade schools have started opening up.

 

[Tex_21]

One thing I will say for my high school, whilst it was a pretty shit school for those academically minded, it has a great trade wing (even improved since I left I think).

 

[mick7]

My mother's Catholic school education in the 1950's ensured that my brother and I never went near a Catholic school.

I could only imagine mate.

On the other side of the fence my mother and her sister both went to the same school as me and my siblings in the 1970's and she only had the best things to say about it.

Still. I know what you mean.

 

[IBleedBrownNGold]

Had a nutjob relief teacher for one semester of Science in Year 7 (our usual teacher was on long service leave) who tried to get a kid suspended for simply calling the special Math class '****** Maths'.
And during one particularly boring class, she smashed a kids glasses in a fit of rage when he drew eyes on a piece of paper, cut them out, stuck them over the top of his glasses, and pretended to fall asleep so the class could have a bit of a laugh.
She ended up having to pay for a new pair, and eventually left the school at the end of the year (wonder why).

lol. This school wasn't in Geelong by any chance, was it?

 

[HappyChappy35]

lol. This school wasn't in Geelong by any chance, was it?

No, but it was near Geelong.
Also had a psycho woodwork teacher in Year 7 at the same school that used to always slam a small block of wood (and boy did he slam it hard) into the closest table whenever the class wouldn't shut up.
He also used to berate and/or send outside this Russian kid in the class whenever he corrected the teacher on the pronunciation of his surname (which would occur at least once per class).

 

[Kyptastic]

Having recently done a post-graduate education course, most of the lecturers either have little practical experience in a classroom or have generally been out for so long that the don't have a current understanding of the trends and situations you would find there. They're so wrapped up in a theoretical understanding of education that they find it hard to think of situations that fit outside that model - the ideal classroom is the only classroom that matters to them.

Not saying that it's all bad, it's just that the theoretical stuff outweighs the practical side in a lot of teacher education that your placement is really the only time that you get to learn those skills and techniques that you need.

 

[Big Cox 88]

Had a PE teacher who would get us in the pool more than all the others and in games such as water polo would get quite physical with the girls. Also acted dodgily with all the girls around in bikinis. Then in dance practice for socials etc he would always choose the hottest girls to demonstrate with

 

[Kram]

The profession does seem to attract a fair % of weirdos, it often felt like a lot them just didn't want to grow up and leave school..

 

[DTRAIN87]

No, but it was near Geelong.
Also had a psycho woodwork teacher in Year 7 at the same school that used to always slam a small block of wood (and boy did he slam it hard) into the closest table whenever the class wouldn't shut up.
He also used to berate and/or send outside this Russian kid in the class whenever he corrected the teacher on the pronunciation of his surname (which would occur at least once per class).

Racist.

 

[IBleedBrownNGold]

I was racially vilified by a teacher in Year 10 of my high schooling. The bastard was lucky I didn't report him to the principal. I regret not doing it now because I could have had him sacked there and then. The ordeal carried on in his class for about 6 months, and every time it was me being targeted. The irony is, he was more of a "foreigner" than I was, and yet he decided he was a "big man" picking on kids like that.
I consider myself extremely blessed to have had some brilliant teachers in my time, that have inspired and pushed me to become a successful person. But the truth is, some teachers just don't realise (or they take advantage of) the powerful position they're in. I have also seen my fair share of dodgy teachers that reflect somewhat those already being discussed in this thread. But I also believe a lot of teachers struggle with the kids they teach (kids can be pricks too) and it affects their mindset. Cuts both ways.

 

[Plugger35]

She sounds like a music teacher that our combined Year 6/7 class drove to a near nervous breakdown. Everybody used to muck around in music, singing the wrong lyrics to songs, throwing paper & objects around the room, bursting bags and balloons and pretending to throw up when her back was turned. She contributed to her own demise, by getting us to sing these stupid songs that were for 7 year olds. What did she expect?

Sounds like a relief teacher we had for chemistry in high school, she was just a young teacher straight out of teachers college and had no idea how to discipline the class. Consequently the class was total anarchy with everyone running amok. Every time she would turn around to write on the blackboard stuff would get thrown around the class like pencil cases, books, screwed up bits of paper etc. Most other teachers wouldn't have put up with it and sent us to the 'time out' room or up to the headmasters office but she just let us get away with it so we kept on running amok.

It was the same with most teachers, you would see how far you could push them and what you could get away with. If they didn't lay down the law early on and discipline trouble makers their lives would be hell. With our normal chemistry teacher no one played up at all, he was nice guy if you were well behaved but if you played up in class he would tear strips off you.

 

[Nibbler_]

Picked my 14yo niece up from school today.

Told me she had a deadset pedophile for a PE teacher. Anyway, apparently in PE today, her top PE shirt buttons were undone. He bent down to her level, his face about 5 cm away from hers, and started to do up her buttons.

I didn't know how to react. Laugh my ass off or declare war against the pedo. I ended up stopping by the side of the road to laugh at her expense.

I am a shit uncle.

 

[Tex_21]

Would you like to be a worse uncle and enter into a contract to post pictures of your niece? If not now, in two years time?

 

[Nibbler_]

Would you like to be a worse uncle and enter into a contract to post pictures of your niece? If not now, in two years time?

Dafuq did I just read

 

[Tex_21]

lulz. Shut up and post pics once she turns 16*



* or now, though she may be too old.

 

[emuboy]

I do that, especially with the smart arsed kid who wants to try and be funny. I don't do it out of stupidity but out of allowing them to own their own learning and behaviour.

I say to them (knowing full well it will get a laugh) that they can do that person but one hint of laughter or stupidity they will have to do the project at lunch time and again with a sensible person. They do the sensible person the first time and I don't say no.

I can understand the point of this - for example setting a group of smart-arsed kids an assignment where they have to look up AFL/VFL players Willie Dick, Dick Condon, Ronald McDonald, Terry Gay and Jason Laycock - but they are not allowed to laugh or mess around.

However, in this case Dick Burns was simply one of a number of listed authors - it wasn't a test of how the class would behave, and the teacher seemed clueless as to what the source of the problem was.

 

[blues4flag]

lol Ronald Mcdonald.

 

[SugarShane]

Picked my 14yo niece up from school today.

Told me she had a deadset pedophile for a PE teacher. Anyway, apparently in PE today, her top PE shirt buttons were undone. He bent down to her level, his face about 5 cm away from hers, and started to do up her buttons.

I didn't know how to react. Laugh my ass off or declare war against the pedo. I ended up stopping by the side of the road to laugh at her expense.

I am a shit uncle.

At least you picked her up

 

[Burzum]

Vice Principal at my secondary school moved like The Sidler from Seinfeld. He'd tear strips off anyone who wasn't wearing a perfect school uniform (ie. white shoes instead of black) so you pretty much had to be looking around all lunch break to make sure you were ok.

 

[Eagle Empire]

I read a letter one of my wife's co-teachers wrote, and i, the simple year 12 graduate retail store worker, corrected about 7 or 8 English mistakes in a 3-4 paragraph letter from a uni qualified teacher. And we're talking early primary stuff, like they're/there/their and loose/lose. Then a month or so ago we got an invite to her son's birthday party, "Your Invited!" is said across the top in massive letters. Doesn't give you a whole lot of confidence in the school system. Day 1 of studying teaching should be a spelling test. If you fail, begone. Find something else.

...oh- nah!