ASADA defied as banned dog at work. 2/3: Prismall no longer working for Dogs

[Slartibartfast]

To me this is strategic by the AFL. Smells rotten.

 

[Randomizor]

What the what?

 

[Satan]

I get the impression the AFL are trying to push a few of ASADAs buttons.
Daring them to step in and prevent Prismall from working at FFC if they feel inclined.
What worries me is that any sanction would come down on the AFL not Footscray and would effect everyone for not being compliant.
Are the AFL looking to jeopodise it's association with WADA , easier than walking away without the fallout.
Keep government funding coz all we did was let a drug cheat work at a club, meant no harm!
Trying to read between the lines as it is rather clear that he should not be employed by any AFL club.

a few years ago melb had a sponsor called energy watch whose ceo wrote racist and other shocking comments on his fb page, melbourne dropped them like a hot potato. i suggested he wrote on purpose so get contract cancelled and save company money. this ffc story has got the hallmarks of something similar

 

[Ancient Tiger]

The picture looks bad. The AFL may be worried about the impending law suits. If they can get out of the WADA deal and somehow give the players their season they may avoid a crippling class action from the players. Maybe that is why they are trying to keep the players fit in February as it doesn't make sense they would be training now for next February. Also it would explain why they are allowing Essendon to somehow oversee the training from afar…..

 

[Slartibartfast]

Don't think ASADA would act quickly if that is what the AFL are hoping.
Think they are looking for the out without saying they are withdrawing from drug code.
They fear loss of government funding.
They fear backlash from supporter base ( brand damage )
If they can stage manage them being kicked out drug for non compliance the government would be in the gun to take action.
The AFL is a huge business , it worries me that the government are already on board.

 

[pablo668]

I am amazed at how petulant the AFL industry really is about this.
I thought, rather naively that once the players were done it would force the hand of everyone involved in the AFL to clean up their act and make the necessary changes.
But no, it's boys club and self interest all the way, to an absurd level.

This sport is forked at the professional level. Needs a clean out.

 

[stabler]

To me this is strategic by the AFL. Smells rotten.

How do you smell something rotten in amongst a big steaming pile of shit

 

[Slartibartfast]

Banned players have been prevented from helping out in kids sport.
How can Prismall be involved at the highest level in the sport he was banned from???

 

[OneGreatClub]

Banned players have been prevented from helping out in kids sport.
How can Prismall be involved at the highest level in the sport he was banned from???

AFL please explain!

 

[Belnakor]

Don't think ASADA would act quickly if that is what the AFL are hoping.
Think they are looking for the out without saying they are withdrawing from drug code.
They fear loss of government funding.
They fear backlash from supporter base ( brand damage )
If they can stage manage them being kicked out drug for non compliance the government would be in the gun to take action.
The AFL is a huge business , it worries me that the government are already on board.

the AFL got kicked out they would not have the government on their side. If they think that they are dumber than the essendon players.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Cant find the reference , think it was a rugby player who was prevented from volunteering in a role in an under age competition due to a current suspension.

 

[Rob]

To me this is strategic by the AFL. Smells rotten.

Strange way to go about it.
"Hey, let's stick it to those WADA fascists. Let Prismall work for the Bulldogs!"

Yeah that's really showing them.

 

[yaco55]

ASADA defied as banned Dog at work
BANNED former Bomber Brent Prismall is working at the Western Bulldogs in defiance of advice from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority. Prismall is the only member of the Essendon 34 who ­remains in the AFL system.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscri...f7a6021b69fad2cab0003123629&memtype=anonymous

How about Mark McVeigh at GWS - Believe he is still working at GWS - At the end of the day what can WADA do ? They've never stopped banned Russia athletes from training with Russian coaches and in fact competing in Russian events

 

[yaco55]

My inner cynic imagines the AFL attempting to provoke WADA to expel it, by fiddling at the edges rather than blatant defiance. Far-fetched?

I'd suggest that the AFL have little faith in the CAS decision and will bend the rules as much as possible.

 

[Boxhead_31]

The AFL are heading into unchartered waters….

Teacup style?

 

[The 747]

I'd suggest that the AFL have little faith in the CAS decision and will bend the rules as much as possible.

Agree, the AFL hated having their tribunal decision overturned. He's a player welfare manager anyway, so it is probs debatable whether it is connected to onfield directly. He's in effect in HR.

 

[The 747]

How about Mark McVeigh at GWS - Believe he is still working at GWS - At the end of the day what can WADA do ? They've never stopped banned Russia athletes from training with Russian coaches and in fact competing in Russian events

Probably nothing when it is small scale, not worth the trouble.

 

[Jimthegreat]

I think the rules allow you to work at a sporting club just not playing or coaching capacity. Thought that was made clear on the first day of the suspension. Prisnall is suspended from playing or coaching, not from his job as a Welfare officer. Even WADA allows players to have a day job, even in sport. Think GWS moved Vitamins McVeigh into a non-football role.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/0ea11aca160341f72b8c20ab54fb3ef3

 

[threesixpio]

I think the AFL are more likely just stupid rather than being master manipulators. ****-up over conspiracy

Edit: maybe they're not stupid and they're right - see above post

 

[Xtreme]

This sport is forked at the professional level. Needs a clean out.

Just let Hawthorn win the 2016 flag first

 

[threesixpio]

Just let Hawthorn win the 2016 flag first

Needs to be fourked

 

[Satan]

I think the rules allow you to work at a sporting club just not playing or coaching capacity. Thought that was made clear on the first day of the suspension. Prisnall is suspended from playing or coaching, not from his job as a Welfare officer. Even WADA allows players to have a day job, even in sport. Think GWS moved Vitamins McVeigh into a non-football role.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...s/news-story/0ea11aca160341f72b8c20ab54fb3ef3

So are essendon going to get 12 welfare officers and they all look after each other?

 

[Jimthegreat]

So are essendon going to get 12 welfare officers?

It's what is called a grey area. Given that was Prisnall's day job but not that of the Essendon players, I'd say not, although suppose technically they could, as McVeigh is for GWS in an admisistrative role. You are allowed to work with any sporting organisation as long as it's not direct hands on eg: playing, coaching, on-field-support staff. Administrative roles are ok. Depends what one considers a welfare officer.

 

[Satan]

It's what is called a grey area. Given that was Prisnall's day job but not that of the Essendon players, I'd say not, although suppose technically they could, as McVeigh is for GWS in an admisistrative role. You are allowed to work with any sporting organisation as long as it's not direct hands on eg: playing, coaching, on-field-support staff. Administrative roles are ok. Depends what one considers a welfare officer.

Ask Brett goodes what he did?
The afl did not allow dean bailey to go any where near adelaide

 

[Armchair Critic]

It's what is called a grey area. Given that was Prisnall's day job but not that of the Essendon players, I'd say not, although suppose technically they could, as McVeigh is for GWS in an admisistrative role. You are allowed to work with any sporting organisation as long as it's not direct hands on eg: playing, coaching, on-field-support staff. Administrative roles are ok. Depends what one considers a welfare officer.

Not true. The only avenue is working in an Anti Doping education or rehab role.

22.1 Prohibition Against Participation During Ineligibility (a) No Player or other Person who has been declared Ineligible may, during the period of Ineligibility, participate in any capacity in an AFL Competition or activity

(other than authorised Anti-Doping education or rehabilitation programs) authorised by the AFL, Affiliated State or Territory Body or AFL Clubs, any Signatory or Signatory’s member organisation or a club or other member organisation of a Signatory’s member organisation, or in competitions authorised or organised by any professional league or any international or national level event organisation or any elite or national-level sporting activity funded by a government agency

22.2 Return to Training As an exception to clause 22.1, a Player may return to train with a team or to use the facilities of a club or other member organisation of a Signatory’s member organisation during the shorter of: (a) the last two (2) months of the Player’s period of Ineligibility; or (b) the last one-quarter of the period of Ineligibility imposed.41

40 For example, subject to clause 22.2, an Ineligible Player cannot participate in a training camp, exhibition or practice. The term ’activity’ also includes, for example, administrative activities, such as serving as an official, director, officer, employee, or volunteer of the organisation described in this clause. Ineligibility imposed in one sport shall also be recognised by other sports.