Win Prizes Ask an Atheist II

[Gethelred]

Welcome to the Ask an Atheist thread II.

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Win Prizes - Ask an Atheist - Shoe's on the other foot now!

Alright, we're going to have a change of tack. As I'm sure you can see, the thread title has been changed to Ask an Atheist. People who have a question to ask of the atheists who populate this thread - more than the christians do - should feel free to ask questions of them. If you've still got...

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[Total Power]

You bring up the Sin question and then answer it yourself; no matter what a Christian says about sin, you have your pov, and that is it.

What pov? you are again making it about me when it's not about me. Sin is a societal construction, what was sin 2,000 years ago is no longer a sin, or vice versa...this is undeniable, you admitted it yourself many times that slavery was ok back then. So how did YOU as a 21st century person figure out this is wrong? Nothing in the Bible that states slavery is wrong or being an atheist isn't sinful?

Do you have an innate opinion on what constitutes sin in 2024, in your life? Do you need a fixed catechismic definition that holds for perpetuity, otherwise sin is null and void"?

It's completely subjective. You can’t get two people on the planet to agree on what is morally right. There are literally devout Christians on both sides of every moral issue. Slavery, abortion, war, death penalty, stem cell research, genocide, etc. If the Bible can’t even bring clarity on such moral issues what good is it at all? Certainly not objective. I don't think you will disagree that if someone murdered Hitler or Pol pot, it will be a sin. So murder can be good, depending on the context. Stealing, you can apply the same logic, Robin Hood was a hero, yet he was a thief. If you read the tale of our very own Jandamarra , he was our hero but a thief in many books. CONTEXT!

 

[Total Power]

You say I still lose. Sorry for you TP. That will not be proven until ... who knows when. And yes, we all sin, and there IS a choice. You can bleat about the unfairness of this, or ponder the possibility that it is true. At least you have been aware of the choices. Can not plead ignorance.
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you are correct, and what do Christians lose?

There's is no choice if it's in the system! If i have a psychopathic gene in me, i will be a psychopath..i have no control over it. Do you think people who are cold blooded killers feel any empathy like you and i? they are helpless! they are sick! it's not their fault to an extent that they are born with that in that brain (this is science btw). Similarly according to the Christian we are born with the Original Sin. Are you denying your own theology now? we are born with it. Means no one can stop sinning according to Christianity, the only route is salvation through Christ.

According to your legend Saul, he said there has never been a sinless man on earth. If it was a choice, then there would be one...but since there isn't a choice sinners will sin.

But great to see you are arguing against your own theology..you still have hope!

 

[liz]

As if anybody here does not know or understand what sin is- it's more a question of accepting sin is departure from God's way.

Since you define sin in relation to a concept (God) that many on here think is a human construction only, how would we know or understand sin?

 

[Roylion]

And yes, we all sin,

No we don’t. I am sinless. Always was and always will be.

 

[Roylion]

Mine- Succumbing to the temptations of this material world when you know deep down, that choice was flawed because it is against the teachings of God.

There are no teachings of ‘God’. Any claim as to any body of man-made literature being the teachings of any God is merely an unsubstantiated claim derived from man’s imagination. These so called “teachings of god” are really the teachings of man.

Basically separation from God by doing things known to be disobedient to His will,

Man has no knowledge of “God’s will” other than what they have imagined it to be.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Since you define sin in relation to a concept (God) that many on here think is a human construction only, how would we know or understand sin?

Exactly what I wanted to say.