Assistant coaches or 'yes men'

[TallyHawk]

Gary Lyon today has had a crack at the assistant coaches at struggling teams and a perception that it's not only the Senior coach that needs to be more adaptive to change.

The Saints have what appears little support around Alan Richardson.

Take a look at Hawthorn who brought in Scott Burns, and Darren Glass to a panel that already had Adem Yze, Brett Ratten and Damian the lolly muncher Monkhorst assisting a very good coach in Clarkson.

How well is your Coach supported.


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[Lensen]

None of us, media included, would have the foggiest idea

Does allow anyone to make stuff up to fit a narrative though

 

[marty36]

Gary Lyon today has had a crack at the assistant coaches at struggling teams and a perception that it's not only the Senior coach that needs to be more adaptive to change.

The Saints have what appears little support around Alan Richardson.

Take a look at Hawthorn who brought in Scott Burns, and Darren Glass to a panel that already had Adem Yze, Brett Ratten and Damian the lolly muncher Monkhorst assisting a very good coach in Clarkson.

How well is your Coach supported.


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It’s whether the senior coach will listen to his assistants aswell

I’m sure they all speak and have an opinion


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[Tony Harrison]

Garry Lyon doesn't have a great track record of getting things right.

That said, I think Leppa and Caracella have been very important in where Richmond are at.

Rutten seems good too.

Who does Richo have?

 

[Kwality]

Garry Lyon doesn't have a great track record of getting things right.

That said, I think Leppa and Caracella have been very important in where Richmond are at.

Rutten seems good too.

Who does Richo have?

. Hardwick has Balmey, strange how success follows him .

Lyon: say no more

 

[TallyHawk]

Garry Lyon doesn't have a great track record of getting things right.

That said, I think Leppa and Caracella have been very important in where Richmond are at.

Rutten seems good too.

Who does Richo have?

Aaron Hamil and Lyndsey Gilby, and some guy that also coaches the Frankston Dolphins.

 

[sydney_gws]

Aaron Hamil and Lyndsey Gilby, and some guy that also coaches the Frankston Dolphins.

I don't think Hamil would be that good a coach

 

[Ian Dunross]

OP has nailed the problem down at the Saints.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Carlton has an assistant coach and a development coach for each line and a coach in charge of the development coaches. Bolts has a heap of support around him and the spirit is awesome around the group. The question is ... can they coach? Time will tell.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

None of us, media included, would have the foggiest idea

Does allow anyone to make stuff up to fit a narrative though

100%

Nobody has a clue what they do internally, incl Garry Lyon

 

[Ian Dunross]

Lyon is right in the sense that people within the coaching department at Moorabbin aren't doing their jobs.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Garry Lyon doesn't have a great track record of getting things right.

That said, I think Leppa and Caracella have been very important in where Richmond are at.

Rutten seems good too.

Who does Richo have?

Adam Kingsley is his main right-hand man.

In fact, I believe he was promoted to some newly created role of 'Transition Coach' or something. Meaning, he is charge of the transition from defence to midfield, to forwards etc.

In isolation, he's failing horribly as they're just deplorable in that space.

I wonder sometimes, if these guys try to be too clever? Do they over-engineer things in order to be considered geniuses with 'great football minds'? I sometimes think the best 'game plans' or high level strategies are exactly that - high level. Does the detail ever really work?


I also believe that Henry Playfair came in this year, and brought with him a 'team defence' approach which was apparently quite a new concept to them.


It's highly probable that combined with losing Riewoldt and Montagna, they've simply introduced too much change in one hit?

 

[t_bond_legend]

Aaron Hamil and Lyndsey Gilby, and some guy that also coaches the Frankston Dolphins.

That is a shocking attempt haha.

 

[parmy2balmey]

gary lyon, kingmaker

seer of all things coaching

dean bailey, mark neeld

fk r of other people’s lives/wives

ball bag eyes

 

[The Joker]

None of us, media included, would have the foggiest idea

Does allow anyone to make stuff up to fit a narrative though

Do the coaches go into a box only to come out on game day and training sessions?

People know people, people talk to people, strange shit goes on inside footballers/coaches houses!

 

[HairyO]

Gary Lyon today has had a crack at the assistant coaches at struggling teams and a perception that it's not only the Senior coach that needs to be more adaptive to change.

The Saints have what appears little support around Alan Richardson.

Take a look at Hawthorn who brought in Scott Burns, and Darren Glass to a panel that already had Adem Yze, Brett Ratten and Damian the lolly muncher Monkhorst assisting a very good coach in Clarkson.

How well is your Coach supported.


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Given the success of his promoted assistants, and the contact they have, Id say Clarko does a great job.

As long as he keeps Ratten on board. For all our losses, I think he would be the biggest.

 

[ThirdLegUp]

Luke Beverage has Luke Beverage... apparently he sees ghosts that walk around with him all day at the club, one of which is very handsome, and occasionally speak to him, but pays no attention to them and lights a zen candle for focus.

 

[Northworth]

Gary Lyon today has had a crack at the assistant coaches at struggling teams and a perception that it's not only the Senior coach that needs to be more adaptive to change.

The Saints have what appears little support around Alan Richardson.

Take a look at Hawthorn who brought in Scott Burns, and Darren Glass to a panel that already had Adem Yze, Brett Ratten and Damian the lolly muncher Monkhorst assisting a very good coach in Clarkson.

How well is your Coach supported.


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I always thought that there should be a bit more accountability for the chairperson of the panel that recruits senior coaches. Particularly, successive, failed coaches.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Don Pyke is surrounded by Neil Craig era rejects. I feel sorry for the poor bastard.

Guys like Camporeale, Clarke and Hart have loser stench all over them and have killed a few coaches careers already.

 

[ioppolo]

It's early days but Van Berlo & Mitchell seem to be doing wonders at the moment.

 

[The Gong]

Brett Kirk, Stevie J and Big Cox. Pretty happy with that sort of experience and quality having input.

Made the joke at the start of the year, with those guys coaching, for play to go like....

.....ruckman taps the ball beautifully down to advantage, mids dive on it with reckless disregard for their own safety, get the ball back to the ruckman who covers the ground like a man half his size, kicks into forward 50 where our small forward snaps a goal over his shoulder from the pocket.

 

[deck]

It's how it works for senior job selection. The assistance at the successful clubs get the senior jobs more times than not.

Get stuck at a bottom team for too long and you blow your chance of a head coaching job.

 

[SterlingArcher]

Certain assistants do seem to have a magic touch (Caracella) but I think if you're looking to blame assistants then I dare say the club as a whole is failing and there's just a hunt for a scapegoat...assistants shouldn't have THAT much influence

 

[Kram]

It amuses me greatly that people think they can rate the quality of assistant coaches with any accuracy from watching on TV or from say 50m away up in the grandstand.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Public perception is a load of shit - Best example I can think of is Peter Sumich: Got labelled a ‘Yes Man’ for much of his career because he was known to be a good friend of John Worsfold but in reality he was always considered an independent thinker within the club and someone who marched to the beat of their own drum - known to clash with Worsfold (despite their friendship) and then later with Lyon. Doesn’t mean he’s some kind of impossible to work with arseh*le, likely just to hold strong opinions and be passionate - just like plenty of others I’m sure.

We don’t know how these guys operate behind closed doors but any work place or small team will have guys that challenge the leader and that’s not always a bad thing.