Aussies Aussie Watch, lead up to - Paris 2024

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Exactly how this happened involves everything from luck (a critical mass of genetic lottery winners) to geography (the gifted gathering in clusters), access to expertise (through a decentralised coaching model) and ever-expanding pathways (such as US university programs), as well as improved shoe technology, shifts in the economics of running, a growing online community of athletes and a new era of data-sharing. Not to mention inspiration from retired outliers like Craig Mottram.

Mottram, of course, challenged the established Kenyan dominance in middle-distance running two decades ago, beating reigning Kenyan world champion Benjamin Limo, for instance, to a silver medal at the 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne. Now the man they used to call “The Big Mzungu” leads Peyton Craig and other jets as coach of the On Athletics Club Oceania. [ see 2nd tweet below about Peyton's 800m qualifier 2 days ago]

“A lot of the best talent ended up in other sports because we didn’t have the mechanisms in place to capture and develop it. We do now.”
Craig Mottram
Running, he says, is still the broadest participation sport on earth, but more Australians choosing to compete is making a big difference. Craig, for example, was also a junior swimming champion and triathlete before settling on athletics a year ago, while Mottram’s star runner, Claudia Hollingsworth, 19 – who was just selected for the Paris Olympics in the 800m – chose running over a potential AFLW career.

“But that choice has gotta come from somewhere,” says Mottram, who runs a coaching business that helps scoop up such precocious athletes. “The ability has probably always been there, but a lot of the best talent ended up in other sports because we didn’t have the mechanisms in place to capture and develop it. We do now.”










 
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Hi All,

Obviously we all read about the women's marathon selection drama and whilst it's good everyone wants to move on. However if you want hear what actually happened, the 3 women selected, Sinbad Diver, Genevieve Gregson, and Jess Stenson do a weekly podcast called En route to Paris. It is produced by the team that does the For the kudos podcasts.

The first episode they go through what happened, the appeals, the document that Lisa Weightmans team produced as part of the appeal.

It is interesting to hear what actually happened with the appeals process and what all the girls were put through. Although the document was mainly targeted at Stenson, it also had a crack at the other 2 as well.

From listening to the girls a few things come to mind.

1. Lachlan McArther (Lisa's husband) is definitely a dick but it would seem like it might not be all him. I reckon there's more going on in Lisa's camp around the personal attacks.

2. Sally Pearson's article was clearly based on hearsay and she has no actual knowledge of what went on.

3. Stenson is all class about how she went about this and handled the process.
 
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A follow up to my too much sport is barely enough according to H.G. Nelson, but too much athletics is bloody hard to keep up with. Thanks Angus for doing the weekend summary.



 
Luke Boyes, I saw him at nationals in Adelaide, just missed out on a Qualifying Time 1.44.73 when a 1.44.70 is the standard.

Two of Oz athletes who did the qualifier did it July last year and Bol was given a selection place at the nationals. Boye's world ranking points gets him into the Olympics but young 20 year old Peyton Craig did a stunning auto qualifier 1.44.12 on the weekend and I posted tweets about him above.

The selectors have a tough decision to make about which of the 2 other slots are allocated to.

From Road to Paris rankings page on World Athletics site.



QPCPNatAthleteStatusDetails
151AUSJoseph DENGQualified by Entry Standard1:43.99 - Stade Raymond Decines (FRA) - 08 JUL 2023
212AUSPeyton CRAIGQualified by Entry Standard1:44.12 - LAZ Wien, Wien (AUT) - 22 JUN 2024............
253AUSPeter BOLQualified by Entry Standard1:44.29 - Estadi Joan, Barcelona (ESP) - 05 JUL 2023

441PURJohn RIVERAIn World Rankings quota*40th - 1227p
4AUSLuke BOYESIn World Rankings quota*41st - 1226p


Boyes' run tomorow morning and at moment is safe to be selected if they don't go with Deng, as 48 competitors for the 800m in Paris.








 
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Angus from athsStats chart on where Aussie athletes lay. 30th June Sunday - USA time is the final day to get an auto qualifier or a world ranking for all athletes world wide.


@athsSTATS
7h
Penultimate #quest4quals
Next one is final & will include implications on rankings from of all the country Nationals this w/e - those just in a quota place will be nervousSo many massive efforts from #OzAthsOS to push for qualification this yearWhat was your favourite?


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Are they still doing duel flag bearers? Who do we think will get the honour?

My tip is Fox for the women. Emma McKeon would be a chance but would they go swimmers in consecutive Olympics? Not sure about the men; I’ll have a further think.
 
Zachary Gates is Ch 9's Olympic and Paralympic reporter - online - mainly for their Wide World of Sports website.


 
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Are they still doing duel flag bearers? Who do we think will get the honour?

My tip is Fox for the women. Emma McKeon would be a chance but would they go swimmers in consecutive Olympics? Not sure about the men; I’ll have a further think.
Fox for the women given the French heritage connection.

For the men I reckon it might be a toss up between two 4 time Olympians.

Matthew Glaetzer from track cycling, beat thyroid cancer to get to Tokyo, then injuries post Tokyo, but won 2022 Team Sprint gold at world champs. Hasn't won a medal but has finished 4th or 5th at least 3 times, but I think its 4 maybe 5 times.

Equestrian Shane Rose has won 2 silvers and a bronze. Wore the orange mankini during a fancy dress showjumping event about 5 months ago and was going to be banned from Olympic selection, but sanity prevailed, then secured Olympic qualification and a bit over 3 months ago had a terrible accident, 625kg horse fell on top of him and he broke over a dozen bones. This story was on 7.30 the other night.

Amazing comeback. Stunned his orthopaedic surgeon. First ride back last weekend he only knocked off 1 rail. Next week he finds out if he has made the team.







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Are they still doing duel flag bearers? Who do we think will get the honour?

My tip is Fox for the women. Emma McKeon would be a chance but would they go swimmers in consecutive Olympics? Not sure about the men; I’ll have a further think.
Drummond I have another male name that would be in the mix, after just seeing a story in the sports segment of 7 news on the Kookaburras and Hockeyroos.

Eddie Ockenden is going to his 5th Olympics. Won bronze in Bejing and London and silver in Tokyo and a couple of World Cups.
 
Drummond I have another male name that would be in the mix, after just seeing a story in the sports segment of 7 news on the Kookaburras and Hockeyroos.

Eddie Ockenden is going to his 5th Olympics. Won bronze in Bejing and London and silver in Tokyo and a couple of World Cups.
You know what, I had the exact same thought after seeing his name highlighted on social media for making his 5th games. Huge achievement.
 

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Since last week's AOC Weekend Wrap, several sports have named their athletes totalling 89, for Paris. You can read them at the following links;















 
Monday's AOC Weekend Wrap.

Not much happening as most athletes have been selected an are preparing for Paris. This talks about the Tour de France and Wimbeldon and what athletes going to Paris have done.

 
9 have announced their commentators and schedules for Paris. I've bolded commentators that I reckon have done good jobs in the past and have enjoyed listening to. It says 9Now will be streaming everything in HD on over 40 channels.

No idea how that is different to Stan? Maybe the 8 international broadcasters option is the only difference. Unless Stan is live and 9Now has the event in full but delayed?



As we officially enter the Olympic month of July, Australia’s Home of the Olympics, the 9Network, today reveals its full schedule, as well as its hosting and superstar commentator and expert line-up for Paris 2024.


Nine’s coverage begins the week leading into the Opening Ceremony on Monday, July 21, with Today, A Current Affair and 9News broadcasting from Paris - and an Olympic special presentation Let The Games Begin, screening on Wednesday, July 24 on Channel 9 and 9Now.

Following the special, competition kicks off with the Men’s Rugby Sevens and the Men’s Football, both screening from 11.00pm AEST. The following night the Matildas start their Olympic medal campaign.

The 9Network’s 24 hour coverage of the Olympic Games starts early on Saturday, July 27 with the Opening Ceremony beginning at 3am AEST and won’t stop until the Closing Ceremony on Monday, August 12. The two week broadcast will come live from Nine’s state-of-the-art Trocadero studio opposite the Eiffel Tower in Paris.

With 9Now streaming every moment of every event free and in full HD across more than 40 dedicated channels, viewers will experience 24/7 Olympics coverage across Channel 9HD and 9GemHD by Australia’s most accomplished television hosting team:

Channel 9

  • 6.30am-11.00am AEST: Sarah Abo and Karl Stefanovic, as Australia wakes up
  • 11.00am-12.00pm AEST: 9News bulletin
  • 12.00pm-3.00pm AEST: Todd Woodbridge capturing the magic moments of the day
  • 3.00pm-7.00pm AEST: Leila McKinnon and Dylan Alcott as live sport begins
  • 6.00pm-7.00pm AEST: 9News state bulletins
  • 7.00pm-1.00am AEST: Ally Langdon and James Bracey with all the prime-time action
  • 1.00am-6.30am AEST: Eddie McGuire from Paris including competition Finals [This time slot is prime time in Paris so most of the big finals are on when McGuire does the hosting]

9Gem​

  • 5.00pm-10.00pm AEST: Sylvia Jeffreys
  • 10.00pm-3.00am AEST: Nick McArdle
  • 3.00am-8.00am AEST: Sam McClure
  • 8.00am-5.00pm AEST: Hosted long-form replays

The lineup includes Cate Campbell, Ian Thorpe, Giaan Rooney, Ellie Cole, Mat Thompson and Roz Kelly taking viewers poolside to be alongside every stroke of what is considered one of Australia’s strongest ever swim teams.

Track and Field events will be led by Gerard Whateley - who will be the 9Network’s voice of athletics - alongside Tamsyn Lewis-Manou, Olympic gold medalist pole vaulter Steve Hooker, Dave Culbert, Olympic four-time gold medalist sprinter Michael Johnson and Tony Jones.

As Team Australia competes through the two week event, viewers will feel they have a front row seat to every moment guided by renowned experts and commentators Cadel Evans, Andrew Gaze, Phil Liggett, Kerri Pottharst, James Tomkins, Sam Fricker, Scott McGrory, Kate Bates, Caroline Buchanan, Mitch Tomlinson, Ryan Williams, Nick Boserio, Georgie Parker, Richard Fox, Andy Raymond, Todd Woodbridge, Drew Mitchell, Sera Naiqama, Grace Gill, Emma Snowsill, Will McCloy, Brenton Speed, Peter Psaltis, Adam Papalia, Russell Mark, Sean Maloney, Annabelle Williams, Matt Hill, Will Davies, Mark Taylor, Sophie Smith, Shane McInnes, and Jenna O’Hea. Biographies and the sports they are commentating/giving expert analysis of can be found in the press kit attached.
 
I downloaded the 9 Media Kit from this 9 Network press release which was what the AOC site copied. It is too big to attach to a post.


Re 9Now page 15 it says;
40 Streams in F(ull)HD, screening live every
event featuring an Australian athlete
with Wide World of Sports commentary.
Live Streams, replays, highlights
and behind the scenes

Page 18 it says
9Now will lead Australian into a new era of Olympic
streaming with a world class audience experience
never seen before in an FTA Broadcast Video On
Demand (BVOD) app.

Set to be the first Olympic broadcast on an Australia FTA BVOD app available in
1080p, 9Now will feature more than 40 individual channels, with every single
Olympic sport screened on 9Now - and with over 2500 on-demand highlights,
curated on an all new interface, will take viewers to the heart of Paris.

Beautiful Olympic moments will be brought from Paris into fans’ living rooms in Full
HD, 1080p, 50fps (frames-per-second) and 5.1 Dolby Surround Sound alongside the
popular start over button to ensure you never miss the start of a big match.

9Now will also stream curated Channel 9 and 9Gem content live in full High
Definition, 1080p, 50fps (frames-per-second) and 5.1 Dolby Surround Sound.


Re Stan page 23 it says;

Stan will deliver Australians an unrivalled and uninterrupted streaming
experience on Stan Sport to showcase Paris 2024. In a first for Olympic
coverage in Australia, all 329 events at Paris 2024 will be available ad-free,
live and on demand on Stan Sport with the biggest moments in
4K Ultra HD.

In a world first, eight live and exclusive international channels will also be
available on Stan Sport,
making the Olympics accessible to more audiences and
communities in Australia than ever before. This includes tailored and curated
official live Paris 2024 coverage from the UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany and
Greece in their native languages from Eurosport, plus live coverage from Sky
New Zealand and Viacom18’s official Indian coverage in English. This unique
offering will, for the first time, provide communities with a comprehensive and
culturally relevant Olympics viewing experience, only available on Stan Sport.

Viewers will have the choice between the largest range of Olympics coverage,
including more than 40 individual sport channels, four exclusive feature
channels crossing between the best action and an exclusive 24/7 Olympic
News channel.

This extensive range of channels will be complemented by the most
comprehensive on demand offering including replays, highlights and exclusive
minis on Stan Sport ensuring Australians won’t miss a minute of the action

They will have different shows and commentators - page 24 says

Viewers can also watch Stan Sport’s two exclusive daily shows, Olympics
Daily and Paris Preview available throughout the Games. The shows will
be hosted by the experienced Tara Rushton and Adam Peacock, with
Michael Atkinson and Chris Stubbs reporting from on the ground in Paris.

A world class lineup of some of Australia’s most trusted Olympic voices
will also provide expert opinion and analysis each day including Ash Barty
(tennis), Jamie Dwyer (hockey), Grant Hackett and Steph Rice (swimming),
Shane Heal (basketball), Nick Green (rowing) Michael Hooper (rugby
sevens), Elise Kellond-Knight (football), Stuart O’Grady (cycling) Nova
Peris (athletics & hockey), John Steffensen (athletics) and more.

Subscribers can expect a premium, elevated and distinct viewing
experience, with Stan Sport’s user interface completely enhanced for
Paris 2024 to help navigate thousands of hours of live and on demand
action.

Learn more at: https://www.stan.com.au/olympics2024
 
I started my subscription to Stan sport last night for Wimbledon and will keep for the next 2 months. I have great concerns that 9now streaming will continually crash, so I would prefer tp pay for content.
Yeah I'm sceptical given what happened at times to 7+ for Tokyo.

Does Stan broadcast everything in 4k Ultra HD or just sports? as that would chew up bandwidth and server capacity.
 
Nine more people selected for Paris today. That gets to 333 officially. Athletics should add another 40 to 50 later this week.

Wiki's Australia at the 2024 Summer Olympics page has Oz team at 426 as that includes teams qualified and some spots in individual sports qualified but athletes haven't been named by those sports yet.

In Athletics they have 47 who have done auto qualifying times/distances. So far 20 have been selected and are part of the 333 figure and the final number selected will include those who haven't done the automatic qualifier but get in via world rankings positions should be in the 60 to 70 range.

If the Paris Olympics wiki page is say 95% accurate for number of competitors for each nation, then Oz will have the 3rd biggest team with the current top 10 count being;
USA 590, France 555, Oz 426, Germany 396, Japan 385, China 378, Spain 356, Italy 354.Great Britain 311, Canada 298.

Oz for many decades now, has benefited from having teams in teams sports, selected as a representative of Oceania region, whereas some Euro nations who are ranked higher, sometimes a lot higher, don't make it because European nations might only be allocated 2, 3 or 4 slots in sports that only have 12 teams.


 
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Andrew Hoy wont be selected for his 9th Games. 1984-2004, 2012, 2020. Only 3 people have gone to 9 Summer or Winter games, and a Canadian equestrian athlete went to 10.

 
Re the tweet below and what Angus at athsStats means.

His tweet on 29th June said;

20 selected (+3 x relay teams)
23 have standard
41 currently in quota place

20+ point difference generally "safe" Less might be ok, depends on many factors incl.
if those below have Nationals this w/e & how they perform


He had a graphic of the names for Rankings, or Selected or had a Qualifying Entry Standard and about 15 of the 41 with a quota place were 10 or less above the last competitor in the event. Qualifying period closed on 30 June, for all countries time zone, so I suppose Hawaii and French Polynesia would be last place to achieve a 30 June ranking placing.

Today's tweet

(Monaco time)
2nd - RTP updated - final rankings & universality slots (100m & 800m)
.. 2nd of July Road to Paris rankings finalised
4th - Member Federations indicate intended entries for Paris............... 4th of July Federations have to submit entries
5-6th - WA reallocates slots for those not selected by their MF............ 5-6th World Athletics then fills any gaps in slots
7th - Final RTP - ........ 7th July The final Road to Paris athletes accepted and are announced to the world

Monaco time means the announcement comes from World Athletics HQ in Monaco, sometime on those dates.



 

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