Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Mutineer]

Gas appears to be the most sensible baseload option at the moment until alternatives fill some of the void.

Going back to coal is not an option.

Nuclear is not a viable option.

Yeah it is!!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yeah it is!!

No it's not & the vast majority of experts agree with me!

We can't wait decades for a solution lol.

 

[Mutineer]

No it's not & the vast majority of experts agree with me!

Alan Finkel doesn't.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Alan Finkel doesn't.

You are so good a promoting a minority expert... whilst ignoring the vast majority view.

Nuclear won't be happening as much as you keep promoting it for numerous reasons we have already discussed.

End of story.

 

[Mutineer]

You are so good a promoting a minority expert... whilst ignoring the vast majority view.

Nuclear won't be happening as much as you keep promoting it for numerous reasons we have already discussed.

End of story.

You don't think Alan Finkel doesn't have plenty of credibility...yeah you're way more credible than him.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

You don't think Alan Finkel doesn't have plenty of credibility...yeah you're way more credible than him.

Geez, you comments are pathetic sometimes!

So all the majority expert views don't count then...

What makes him so right & the majority wrong?

Do you Bicks have more credibility than most of the experts?

Nuclear doesn't solve anything for decades! DECADES!

It's not happening, so you need to learn to deal with it...

 

[Mutineer]

Geez, you comments are pathetic sometimes!

So all the majority expert views don't count then...

What makes him so right & the majority wrong. Do you know more than most of of the experts? Do you Bicks have more credibility than most of the experts?

Nuclear doesn't solve anything for decades! DECADES!

It's not happening, so you need to learn to deal with it...

And decades and decades of your unproven systems coming online and no guarantee it will ever be 100% of the energy production in Australia not to mention the trillions of $$$'s for infrastructure required. Nuclear is a proven system.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And decades and decades of your unproven systems coming online and no guarantee it will ever be 100% of the energy production in Australia not to mention the trillions of $$$'s for infrastructure required. Nuclear is a proven system.

Yawn, not happening.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Kevin Rudd furiously deleting his anti-Trump tweets just perfectly sums up the political class in this country.

Pathetic f*cking weasel.

His position is completely untenable now. F*ck that idiot off.

 

[rocket18]

This is strong analysis

Well the cry has been, we need more renewables to drive down electricity prices, the sun and wind are free and plentiful etc etc

Here is SA we've gone from 20% to 40% to 60% to whatever we are now (70%+??) of renewable energy and yet our electricity prices have gone through the roof.

Do we need to wait until we get to 80%, 90% or 100% before we start seeing cheaper prices.

At some stage people might realise it aint happening, my guess is about 95%, lefties will be sitting around in their circle doing what they usually do "I really thought we would be paying less for electricity by now".

 

[Mutineer]

Well the cry has been, we need more renewables to drive down electricity prices, the sun and wind are free and plentiful etc etc

Here is SA we've gone from 20% to 40% to 60% to whatever we are now (70%+??) of renewable energy and yet our electricity prices have gone through the roof.

Do we need to wait until we get to 80%, 90% or 100% before we start seeing cheaper prices.

At some stage people might realise it aint happening, my guess is about 95%, lefties will be sitting around in their circle doing what they usually do "I really thought we would be paying less for electricity by now".

Send the bill to "blackout" Bowen.

Is this what they really mean when referring to renewables?..

 

[Mutineer]

Yet another ALP failure, can't blame the proven incompetents Andrew Giles and Clare O'Neil this time this is all sheeted to the big berk off Tony Burke.. They've had 12 months to fix this but as usual asleep at the will.

Scramble for new detention laws after humiliating ruling

The Federal Government has suffered another embarrassing defeat in the High Court, which has ruled in favour of an Eritrean refugee who challenged the conditions.

thenightly.com.au

Immigration detention: Labor to rush through new laws to manage detainees after High Court defeat​

The Federal Government will be forced to introduce emergency regulations to keep monitoring former immigration detainees with ankle bracelets and curfews after the High Court ruled the old regime was invalid.
As Labor scrambled to keep in touch with the ex-detainees, The West can reveal there are 15 in WA being tracked by GPS now in a security limbo over whether the Government can maintain surveillance.
Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the Government was taking “immediate steps to protect community safety” after the nation’s highest court struck down the conditions in another embarrassing legal defeat for Labor.

The ruling would allow 150 ex-detainees freed after 2023’s bombshell High Court ruling on indefinite detention — including murderers and rapists — to roam free without monitoring.
But with existing laws to impose the conditions now ruled unconstitutional, Mr Burke will use regulations to allow an “adjusted process for electronic monitoring devices and curfews” to be used.
The regulations will be signed off on Wednesday, Mr Burke said, with legislation to support them to be introduced on Thursday.

However, they cannot be enacted until November 18 at the earliest because the Senate is not sitting this week.
The minister’s office could not provide clarification on how the new process would work when contacted by The West.
Mr Burke said the court’s ruling in favour an Eritrean refugee who challenged the validity of the conditions was “not the one the Government wanted — but it is one the Government has prepared for”.
“We argued strongly in the High Court to keep electronic monitoring and curfews in place,” he said.
“The security and safety of the Australian community will always be the absolute priority for this Government.”
Some 150 of the 224 detainees were fitted with GPS tracker and 130 were subject to a curfew as of October 31, according to the latest figures from the Commonwealth’s community protection board.
In a statement summarising the majority judgment, the court said the imposition of the conditions was “prima facie punitive and cannot be justified”.
The freed cohort will still be subject to a long list of mandatory visa conditions, including a requirement to notify authorities of their address, changes in employment and any travel.
The ruling comes almost 12 months to the day since the High Court’s bombshell verdict on indefinite detention, which forced the release of more than 200 detainees and sparked a months-long political crisis for the Federal Government.
Labor passed emergency laws to manage the freed cohort using tools such as ankle monitoring bracelets and curfews.

Shadow home affairs minister James Paterson demanded Mr Burke urgently clarify its plans to protect the community.
“The Coalition looks forward to seeing the details (of the new regulations, and we seek iron-clad assurances from the Government that they won’t botch these community safety laws yet again lest we find ourselves in a similar position with an unfavourable High Court decision in the future due to the Government’s botched approach,” he said.
Senior State minister John Carey said the State Government was getting further advice on the decision.
“We will always be concerned about any measures or changes that remove the ability to track these individuals,” he said.
WA Police Minister Paul Papalia refused to be drawn on whether he had received a briefing from his federal colleagues on the ruling.
“Federal authorities are responsible for monitoring detainees subject to the recent High Court decision.
“As always, the WA Police Force remains ready to respond to criminal offending in Western Australia to keep the community safe.”
Earlier, the Opposition described the High Court loss as embarrassing and demanded the Government move immediately to act in response.
“This loss compounds the failure of the Albanese Government to use the preventative detention powers the Parliament rushed through almost 12 months ago to re-detain any high-risk offenders,” Senator Paterson and fellow shadow ministers Dan Tehan and Michaelia Cash said in a joint statement.
The imposition of curfews and ankle bracelets were added to the NZYQ response at the insistence of the Coalition when the laws were rushed through Parliament last year.
But the shadow ministers sought to distance themselves from responsibility for the court’s decision.
“The Government repeatedly assured us that the amendments they drafted were constitutionally sound, and as recently as Monday in Senate estimates promised they had comprehensive contingency plans in place if they were unsuccessful in this case,” they said.
The community protection board advised the Government on which conditions should be imposed on the detainees based on an assessment of their risk to the public.
The board controversially recommended against electronic monitoring for ex-detainee Majid Jamshidi Doukoshkan, who was later allegedly involved in the break-in and bashing of Perth grandmother Ninette Simons.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yet another ALP failure, can't blame the proven incompetents Andrew Giles and Clare O'Neil this time this is all sheeted to the big berk off Tony Burke.. They've had 12 months to fix this but as usual asleep at the will.

Scramble for new detention laws after humiliating ruling

The Federal Government has suffered another embarrassing defeat in the High Court, which has ruled in favour of an Eritrean refugee who challenged the conditions.

thenightly.com.au

Immigration detention: Labor to rush through new laws to manage detainees after High Court defeat​

The Federal Government will be forced to introduce emergency regulations to keep monitoring former immigration detainees with ankle bracelets and curfews after the High Court ruled the old regime was invalid.
As Labor scrambled to keep in touch with the ex-detainees, The West can reveal there are 15 in WA being tracked by GPS now in a security limbo over whether the Government can maintain surveillance.
Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke said the Government was taking “immediate steps to protect community safety” after the nation’s highest court struck down the conditions in another embarrassing legal defeat for Labor.

The ruling would allow 150 ex-detainees freed after 2023’s bombshell High Court ruling on indefinite detention — including murderers and rapists — to roam free without monitoring.
But with existing laws to impose the conditions now ruled unconstitutional, Mr Burke will use regulations to allow an “adjusted process for electronic monitoring devices and curfews” to be used.
The regulations will be signed off on Wednesday, Mr Burke said, with legislation to support them to be introduced on Thursday.

However, they cannot be enacted until November 18 at the earliest because the Senate is not sitting this week.
The minister’s office could not provide clarification on how the new process would work when contacted by The West.
Mr Burke said the court’s ruling in favour an Eritrean refugee who challenged the validity of the conditions was “not the one the Government wanted — but it is one the Government has prepared for”.
“We argued strongly in the High Court to keep electronic monitoring and curfews in place,” he said.
“The security and safety of the Australian community will always be the absolute priority for this Government.”
Some 150 of the 224 detainees were fitted with GPS tracker and 130 were subject to a curfew as of October 31, according to the latest figures from the Commonwealth’s community protection board.
In a statement summarising the majority judgment, the court said the imposition of the conditions was “prima facie punitive and cannot be justified”.
The freed cohort will still be subject to a long list of mandatory visa conditions, including a requirement to notify authorities of their address, changes in employment and any travel.
The ruling comes almost 12 months to the day since the High Court’s bombshell verdict on indefinite detention, which forced the release of more than 200 detainees and sparked a months-long political crisis for the Federal Government.
Labor passed emergency laws to manage the freed cohort using tools such as ankle monitoring bracelets and curfews.

Shadow home affairs minister James Paterson demanded Mr Burke urgently clarify its plans to protect the community.
“The Coalition looks forward to seeing the details (of the new regulations, and we seek iron-clad assurances from the Government that they won’t botch these community safety laws yet again lest we find ourselves in a similar position with an unfavourable High Court decision in the future due to the Government’s botched approach,” he said.
Senior State minister John Carey said the State Government was getting further advice on the decision.
“We will always be concerned about any measures or changes that remove the ability to track these individuals,” he said.
WA Police Minister Paul Papalia refused to be drawn on whether he had received a briefing from his federal colleagues on the ruling.
“Federal authorities are responsible for monitoring detainees subject to the recent High Court decision.
“As always, the WA Police Force remains ready to respond to criminal offending in Western Australia to keep the community safe.”
Earlier, the Opposition described the High Court loss as embarrassing and demanded the Government move immediately to act in response.
“This loss compounds the failure of the Albanese Government to use the preventative detention powers the Parliament rushed through almost 12 months ago to re-detain any high-risk offenders,” Senator Paterson and fellow shadow ministers Dan Tehan and Michaelia Cash said in a joint statement.
The imposition of curfews and ankle bracelets were added to the NZYQ response at the insistence of the Coalition when the laws were rushed through Parliament last year.
But the shadow ministers sought to distance themselves from responsibility for the court’s decision.
“The Government repeatedly assured us that the amendments they drafted were constitutionally sound, and as recently as Monday in Senate estimates promised they had comprehensive contingency plans in place if they were unsuccessful in this case,” they said.
The community protection board advised the Government on which conditions should be imposed on the detainees based on an assessment of their risk to the public.
The board controversially recommended against electronic monitoring for ex-detainee Majid Jamshidi Doukoshkan, who was later allegedly involved in the break-in and bashing of Perth grandmother Ninette Simons.

Would be interesting to see the LNPs answer to the high court?

 

[Mutineer]

Would be interesting to see the LNPs answer to the high court?

None of it would have happened if Mark Dreyfuss KC hadn't tried to be a hero.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Australian press is at the gutter level the US and Pommie press is. C9 and C7 news services trending this way.
One of the comments in X

"I understand that Satan hasn’t called him yet either."

 

[Mutineer]

Genius...Another Musk financed development

 

[MsTopG]

Australian press is at the gutter level the US and Pommie press is. C9 and C7 news services trending this way.
One of the comments in X

"I understand that Satan hasn’t called him yet either."

There's a left wing scumbag that does an editorial every Friday night at the end of the channel 7 adelaide news. Generally 5 mins of left wing TDS bile trying to masquerade itself as being mildly amusing. Who do channel 7 think they are pushing this crap on their audience? Obviously trying to lose what's left of their dwindling audience.

 

[adelaidecrows]

There's a left wing scumbag that does an editorial every Friday night at the end of the channel 7 adelaide news. Generally 5 mins of left wing TDS bile trying to masquerade itself as being mildly amusing. Who do channel 7 think they are pushing this crap on their audience? Obviously trying to lose what's left of their dwindling audience.

Oh yes and sky news pushing lefties losing it segment is morally ok? Ones a scum bag yet Rita isnt. Go figure?

 

[Slippery Pete]

 

[MsTopG]

Albo doesn't want them to access info that could stop them ruining their life. Trump needs to stop that inbred Albo from mutilating kids. All he needs to do is kill Aukus and Albo will come scurrying doing whatever Trump wants. Trump also needs to get that scumbag Rudd to resign.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

We might be better off with Dutton if it means Trump goes easy on us. Send potato head over there to fondle his balls.

 

[El Doederino]

Does Bigfooty count as social media? Is Chief going to need to cup my balls to prove I’m over 16?

 

[El Doederino]

And here it is

 

[Mutineer]

Penbo on the money as usual...

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/the-real-question-is-what-was-anthony-albanese-thinking-when-he-made-kevin-rudd-us-ambassador-to-begin-with-david-penberthy/news-story/c4ec57556780658b830b190e7b2d0040?campaignType=external&campaignChannel=syndication&campaignName=ncacont&campaignContent=&campaignSource=herald_sun&campaignPlacement=edm&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editorial&utm_content=HS_WKD_SUN-AM_01&net_sub_id=288692219&type=curated&position=7

The real question is what was Anthony Albanese thinking when he made Kevin Rudd US ambassador to begin with? | David Penberthy​

The question shouldn’t really be can Kevin Rudd remain Australia’s US ambassador, it’s why he ever got the job to begin with, writes David Penberthy.

Kevin Rudd has found out the hard way that life does not come with a rewind switch.
It would be handy if it did, if we could take back every intemperate or over-the-top remark we had ever made.

Especially if you happen to be a public figure, someone in politics whose utterances carry more weight.

To use what sounds like a Ruddism, attempts by the former PM to render his past thoughts on Donald Trump “non-operational” do not pass muster. Or to use an actual Ruddism, fair shake of the sauce bottle mate.

There are more than a few people for whom the only silver lining in Donald Trump’s victory has been watching the hilarious awkwardness of Mr Rudd trying to crab-walk from his thundering denunciations of the President-elect.

I have never heard a funnier or more desperate misuse of the word “misconstrued” in my life. How do you “misconstrue” the following tweet from June 2020:

“The most destructive president in history,” Rudd wrote.

“He drags America and democracy through the mud. He thrives on fomenting, not healing, division. He abuses Christianity, church and bible to justify violence. All aided and abetted by Murdoch’s FoxNews Network in America which feeds this.”


A bit like the final moments of Scorsese’s Goodfellas where mobster wife Karen Hill madly flushes the cocaine down the toilet during the police raid, Rudd was up early on Thursday frantically scouring his socials to delete the evidence.
His people released a statement saying his past comments had been made in a private capacity while head of a public policy think tank and should not be misconstrued as representative of his views as Australia’s Ambassador in Washington, nor the views of the Australian Government.

Well, nice try.

The question in all this isn’t so much what Kevin Rudd said. Mr Rudd like everyone can say whatever the hell he likes.

Indeed his punchy assessment of Donald Trump gel with what most people on the broad left of politics, and even many traditional conservatives, have to say about the man.

The real question is why Prime Minister Anthony Albanese ever appointed him Ambassador in the first place.

Imagine a situation where a former politician had come out and said, for example, that British PM Sir Keir Starmer was a jumped-up poseur and that any Labor person who insisted on a lofty title bestowed by some nonsense knighthood was a massive tosser not worthy of high office.
Ah, I see we have a vacancy in our London Embassy. You’re hired.

As if.

It has been an absurdity from the get-go and it was only made possible by the cushy jobs-for-the-boys rules which have long governed diplomatic appointments on both sides of politics.

The nepotism angle is made weirder and worse with the Rudd appointment due to the recent factional history of the ALP.

Without wanting to sound cruel, there are many people in the Australian Labor Party who would be quite happy if they never had anything to do with Kevin Rudd ever again.

For these people, the idea of Rudd being sent to Washington might have satiated their desire to be separated from Kevin Rudd by a large body of water, giving him a whole new country to annoy.

The only people remaining in the parliamentary party who have been rusted-on Rudd loyalists since the 2010 coup are Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Foreign Minister Penny Wong.

It looks like their loyalty got in the way of their judgment here as they helped out an old mate who found himself between jobs.

As I said, it’s a practice that’s happened on both sides of politics.

I am sure there are dozens of smart people in the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade who would have made a much better choice for the coveted Washington gig than former Liberal Treasurer Joe Hockey, whose most memorable moment in that role was when he was busted smoking a cigar.

So too with Rudd. Plenty of smart DFAT people could have done the job without all this drama.

The line Anthony Albanese is running is that the appointment to Washington of someone who reached the lofty height of prime minister shows the huge amount of value Australia places on its relationship with the US.
Penny Wong has also lauded Rudd’s capacity to work with both sides of American politics.

“One of the hallmarks of his tenure thus far has been his delivery of reforms and changes with the support of both Republicans and Democrats and his ability to work with both sides of the aisle in Washington,” she said.

Good luck with that. This is Donald Trump we are talking about. Trump is already on the record saying he is unimpressed by what Rudd has said about him.

In March this year Trump called Mr Rudd “a little bit nasty” and “not the brightest bulb”.

Given the swift and resolute action Trump took as president against his own staff whom he regarded as disrespectful or incompetent or merely irritating, there is nothing to suggest the returning president is going to be fuelled by a new sense of graciousness and bonhomie, especially towards a left-wing politician who bagged him so publicly and so thoroughly.

The job of ambassador is to be a door-opener. We are represented in Washington by a door closer.

And if our Prime Minister thinks that Kevin Rudd is capable of building good relationships, and is working assiduously to repair any tensions that exist with Donald Trump, surely it’s a bit of a gamble to take with our most important strategic partnership.

And given that Rudd’s removal by Caucus in 2010 was driven largely by his abrasiveness with his colleagues, it seems foolish in hindsight to have appointed someone hamstrung by a serious lack of diplomacy to our most important diplomatic role.

 

[MsTopG]

Disgusting stuff.