Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[rocket18]

Think most sensible observers realise we need to continue to use gas for the foreseeable future.

Cost of gas is significantly lower than Nuclear & it is available now & for decades to come unlike Nuclear.

Many continue to spout 100% renewable is just around the corner without explaining what generation system will provide base load power.

There is no way a legitimate costing can show Nuclear being cost competitive.

Wont even be close.

But the biggest issue is won't help us for decades!

We need solutions far, far sooner to address our growing demands.

What is the 'green' alternative? I'm all for pushing as green as we can get for power generation, I was an early adopter of solar.

Gas is still a fossil fuel that emits the bad stuff, what has been put forward to achieve base load green generation?

It's a shame the left shut down nuclear debate, would've been handy starting this 20 years ago when renewables started to take off.


100% renewables won't be an option in our lifetimes (if ever)
Renewables + gas = fossil fuel, need to phase out.
Renewables + nuclear = too expensive
Renewables + ???? =

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Many continue to spout 100% renewable is just around the corner without explaining what generation system will provide base load power.



What is the 'green' alternative? I'm all for pushing as green as we can get for power generation, I was an early adopter of solar.

Gas is still a fossil fuel that emits the bad stuff, what has been put forward to achieve base load green generation?

It's a shame the left shut down nuclear debate, would've been handy starting this 20 years ago when renewables started to take off.


100% renewables won't be an option in our lifetimes (if ever)
Renewables + gas = fossil fuel, need to phase out.
Renewables + nuclear = too expensive
Renewables + ???? =

Agree with this.

I don't have the answers & not sure who does.

It's likely to be renewables, batteries & gas til we get more technological advances.

 

[Slippery Pete]

So you haven't lived there so you don't know what yiu are talking about as usual.

I remember once upon a time people were talking about Sweden’s problems with immigration and Kane dismissed them because he has family there and they don’t.

Seems he doesn’t apply that standard to his own opinions.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I remember once upon a time people were talking about Sweden’s problems with immigration and Kane dismissed them because he has family there and they don’t.

Seems he doesn’t apply that standard to his own opinions.

We never talked about their immigration!

We talked about their covid policy.

Geez, you just tell lies after lies.

Bring me the quote.

I'm well aware of the issues they have in the likes of Malmo.

 

[Slippery Pete]

We never talked about their immigration!

We talked about their covid policy.

Geez, you just tell lies after lies.

Bring me the quote.

Okay. Here you go.

The lies are coming from people falsely claiming Europe (and Sweden) are not having huge problems with mass immigration. Some people in this thread, even.

You wanna talk about lies, start there.

Would love to hear your thoughts on the problems in Sweden & happy to share with my family who live there.

Trump said it, so it must be true...

You really have little idea about Sweden.

Have you ever visited or lived in Sweden?

 

[MsTopG]

While I think Craig is correct that a large percentage of the homelessness increase is due to Albanese's failed immigration policy i would also attribute the homelessness epidemic to Albanese's other failed policies as well.

10,000 australians going homeless every month.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Okay. Here you go.

I never actually said anything about immigration Slippery. Re-read my quote.

They don't have 'Huge Problems", but no doubt they have some issues, just like most countries do with some integration.

Once again you make outlandish claims...

 

[MsTopG]

Okay. Here you go.

Someone's memory might be affected by the jab.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Kane done over cold again and just keeps lying. What a grub.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Kane done over cold again and just keeps lying. What a grub.

Says one of the main posters posting misinformation based on his latest crackpot theory.

So now you have moved on from being an anti-vaxxer to anti-immigration. You do realise most of Australia is built on immigration.

No wonder you adore the like of Trump as your agenda is to spread fear based on misinformation.

Really find out how narrow minded people are on the politics board...

 

[StonesThrow]

I could if I wanted

Well lucky that's what you quoted me on so:

Baseload power refers to the minimum amount of electric power needed to be supplied to the electrical grid at any given time.

This definition is from the age of dinosaur coal power supply, not the age of dynamic demand, flexible generation and large amounts of household solar production.

The NEM has changed a lot since the old days that you're dreaming of. Base load doesn't make sense anymore

 

[adelaidecrows]

Kane done over cold again and just keeps lying. What a grub.

you are literally the last person able to have the moral high ground to call anyone a grub. Imagine having the nerve with a posting record like SP that is full of insults. hahaha

 

[kirky]

Think most sensible observers realise we need to continue to use gas for the foreseeable future.

Cost of gas is significantly lower than Nuclear & it is available now & for decades to come unlike Nuclear.

We literally have sufficient gas to last 400+ years.

I laugh at the “sun does shine, wind does blow” arguments. We don’t live in the arctic where the sun doesn’t shine for months in winter.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

you are literally the last person able to have the moral high ground to call anyone a grub. Imagine having the nerve with a posting record like SP that is full of insults. hahaha

Always said you find out more about people when they are under pressure...

 

[kirky]

Lol, you still persisting comparing to the outlaw Mexican cities controlled by drug cartels?

Then there are Ukrainian cities which collectively had 30K deaths.

How about the 60K deaths in Sudan Khartoum war?

Or the 46K killed in Gaza?

Yeah, I'm sure Alice Springs is on the same scale... Not!

And lets not even consider Venezuela - the bastion of democracy.

 

[kirky]

Exhibit B.

Lol, 18th?

You realise how many cities are currently at war with pleny of people dying.

Things are not great in Alice Springs, but watch some international news & get a grip!

Is Alice Springs anywhere near these murder rates? No it's 9.3 per 100K, compared to 77+ for the top 10 cities. Not even in the same ballpark.

Most dangerous cities in the world 2024 | Statista

The most dangerous cities in the world are found in Mexico. Colima tops the list.

www.statista.com

It is blatantly obvious that the Coalition is trying to follow the Trump playbook - with our country being in crisis.

Using immigration and crime for starters and then there is the racist undertones.

What I want to hear is what the Coalition would do with the COL issues?

If we were to go down the nuclear path, how much energy would it provide of our daily needs?

 

[Mutineer]

It is blatantly obvious that the Coalition is trying to follow the Trump playbook - with our country being in crisis.

Using immigration and crime for starters and then there is the racist undertones.

What I want to hear is what the Coalition would do with the COL issues?

If we were to go down the nuclear path, how much energy would it provide of our daily needs?

In essence all it has do is reliably firm up the system so the lights are kept on 24/7 with zero power blackouts or load shedding required in times of high demand that allow heavy industry power users to operate at 100% capacity at all times.
Australia has an abundant source of uranium on our doorstep but like coal we export it to other countries so they can keep their lights on etc.

 

[kirky]

In essence all it has do is reliably firm up the system so the lights are kept on 24/7 with zero power blackouts or load shedding required in times of high demand that allow heavy industry power users to operate at 100% capacity at all times.
Australia has an abundant source of uranium on our doorstep but like coal we export it to other countries so they can keep their lights on etc.

And how does nuclear solve our problems in the next 15 years?

 

[kirky]

The CSIRO pours cold water on the Coalition’s nuclear claims in a new report. Here’s how

Peter Dutton dismisses the latest analysis from the national science agency. Here’s what it says about energy costs – and the opposition’s criticism

www.theguardian.com

 

[Eagleboy2011]

On the ComBack $3 proposed charge. I went to my BankSA branch ATM this morning about 9.30am. I was 3rd in line to withdraw cash. I pulled mine out but for the next guy it had run out. He had to go to the counter a little pissed off.

 

[Mutineer]

And how does nuclear solve our problems in the next 15 years?

So you're saying the next 15 years with Labor's run out of the renewables and all that involves without forgetting the trillion dollars required to fund it will be without any issues like load shedding and worse still blackouts not to mention heavy industries like aluminium smelters etc having to shut down, If you believe that I've a bridge I can sell you.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Says one of the main posters posting misinformation based on his latest crackpot theory.

So now you have moved on from being an anti-vaxxer to anti-immigration. You do realise most of Australia is built on immigration.

No wonder you adore the like of Trump as your agenda is to spread fear based on misinformation.

Really find out how narrow minded people are on the politics board...

You said and I quote “We never talked about their immigration! Geez, you just tell lies after lies. Bring me the quote.”

Care to retract that comment? You wouldn’t want to break site rules now, would you?

Also, I was right way back in 2017 (so was Trump) that Sweden was going to have huge problems down the track with their immigration policies.


Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

Swedish politician regrets ‘refugees welcome’ policy: ‘We were fundamentally wrong on the immigration issue’

Louise Meijer, an MP for Sweden’s centrist Moderate party, apologised to voters for her previous position on open borders. She regrets “making mistakes” by “pleading for openness and refugees [being]…

brusselssignal.eu

Sweden faces a crisis because of flood of immigrants

Immigrants have transformed Sweden, creating a national crisis because many of the newcomers are integrating poorly into society.

www.gisreportsonline.com

Present-day Sweden carries the dubious distinction of having the highest rate of gangland killings in Europe. It boasts the lowest average age of serious offenders, with children in their low teens being arrested for murder. Increasing segments of suburbs are officially classified as “especially vulnerable areas,” where it is “hard, bordering on impossible” for the police to operate. In layman’s terms, these are no-go zones, where local clans rule and where first responders will not enter without flak jackets and police escort.

An early warning was provided in 2017 when United States President Donald Trump made a quip about rioting in Sweden: “You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this!” Who indeed? At the time, such comments were met with disdain and ridicule. Today, it is not so funny anymore.

Sweden has transitioned from being a model of inspiration to becoming a warning example. As gangland violence is spreading across borders, its Scandinavian neighbors experience growing fears of ending up in what is known in Denmark as the “Swedish condition.”

Defying an old taboo, the Swedish government has called on the military to assist the police

 

[Eagleboy2011]

You said and I quote “We never talked about their immigration! Geez, you just tell lies after lies. Bring me the quote.”

Care to retract that comment? You wouldn’t want to break site rules now, would you?

Also, I was right way back in 2017 (so was Trump) that Sweden was going to have huge problems down the track with their immigration policies.


Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

Swedish politician regrets ‘refugees welcome’ policy: ‘We were fundamentally wrong on the immigration issue’

Louise Meijer, an MP for Sweden’s centrist Moderate party, apologised to voters for her previous position on open borders. She regrets “making mistakes” by “pleading for openness and refugees [being]…

brusselssignal.eu

Sweden faces a crisis because of flood of immigrants

Immigrants have transformed Sweden, creating a national crisis because many of the newcomers are integrating poorly into society.

www.gisreportsonline.com

Present-day Sweden carries the dubious distinction of having the highest rate of gangland killings in Europe. It boasts the lowest average age of serious offenders, with children in their low teens being arrested for murder. Increasing segments of suburbs are officially classified as “especially vulnerable areas,” where it is “hard, bordering on impossible” for the police to operate. In layman’s terms, these are no-go zones, where local clans rule and where first responders will not enter without flak jackets and police escort.

An early warning was provided in 2017 when United States President Donald Trump made a quip about rioting in Sweden: “You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this!” Who indeed? At the time, such comments were met with disdain and ridicule. Today, it is not so funny anymore.

Sweden has transitioned from being a model of inspiration to becoming a warning example. As gangland violence is spreading across borders, its Scandinavian neighbors experience growing fears of ending up in what is known in Denmark as the “Swedish condition.”

Defying an old taboo, the Swedish government has called on the military to assist the police

Kane seems to use that "break site rules now," statement when he has no answer or is wrong.

 

[kirky]

So you're saying the next 15 years with Labor's run out of the renewables and all that involves without forgetting the trillion dollars required to fund it will be without any issues like load shedding and worse still blackouts not to mention heavy industries like aluminium smelters etc having to shut down, If you believe that I've a bridge I can sell you.

Making up more bullshit with the trillion $$$. Lets see what made up figures Mr Potato Head comes up with.

Answer the question, gas is the transition fuel.

Fear, more fear, and even more fear.

You need to become progressive.

 

[kirky]

On the ComBack $3 proposed charge. I went to my BankSA branch ATM this morning about 9.30am. I was 3rd in line to withdraw cash. I pulled mine out but for the next guy it had run out. He had to go to the counter a little pissed off.

Shit happens.

Go cashless, much easier.

Lets be honest here, most business prefer credit/debit cards/pay wave - reduced security risk, don’t need to go to a bank, funds received same day.