Back in your boxes - now is NOT the time for a board challenge!

[Limerick]

There is no criteria available to members as far as I know.

Agree and that is my main concern. We have a secret process to approve candidates.

 

[ferball]

As I said, it would be an unpopular opinion. My view is that Football Clubs are businesses and need the appropriate governance to run them.
I have no issues with past players sitting on the board, providing they bring an appropriate skillset to the role.

What does Stevo for example bring to the board as opposed to what he could contribute to the football department?

Someone on the board needs to know enough to challenge the football department on things. I think that was an issue during Brad Scott's tenure, especially 2016 onward.

But right now there are seven people on the board. Lets leave Dr Harry aside for a minute so six. Sonja is the only one without some business experience. Even Stevo ran a farm and was involved in agricultural real estate. Altho her other accomplishments more than make up for it. The rest (even Dr Harry I spose) have all had major roles in business.

He and Dr Harry were both at North when we last had a strong side onfield. And a very good football culture (altho it may have been a bit toxic in other ways.) He's seen the best and the worst of that situation (as it all fell apart.) Right now that experience is probably important for the club.

Football clubs aren't just businesses even tho they have to function as businesses. If its only business people on the board there is a risk the board loses sight of that. I don't think we should have just any footballer on the board but I think Stevo is very well suited to a position there because of his time playing with us. He saw success, failure and alot of shit behaviour. He also saw how a strong on field culture didn't help off field. If he has a strong working relationship with Sonja, who does a have a track record of creating strong, successful cultures in organisations, then I can see a real benefit there.

 

[Zondor]

Agree and that is my main concern. We have a secret process to approve candidates.

It mustn't be that stringent seeing that Crappers was approved by the process. :stern look

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

It would be pretty funny if they got back on the board and the members just voted them out at the next AGM.

As I understand it, if they were given casual seats, then they would be required to stand for election at the next AGM so that's a very possible scenario. However, I doubt they will be given the two seats. And unless one of them is planning to undergo gender reassignment, it sounds like the club will be obliged to strongly endorse the election of another woman to increase to the mandatory 40% quota for government funding.

 

[Massive Unit]

Someone on the board needs to know enough to challenge the football department on things. I think that was an issue during Brad Scott's tenure, especially 2016 onward.

But right now there are seven people on the board. Lets leave Dr Harry aside for a minute so six. Sonja is the only one without some business experience. Even Stevo ran a farm and was involved in agricultural real estate. Altho her other accomplishments more than make up for it. The rest (even Dr Harry I spose) have all had major roles in business.

He and Dr Harry were both at North when we last had a strong side onfield. And a very good football culture (altho it may have been a bit toxic in other ways.) He's seen the best and the worst of that situation (as it all fell apart.) Right now that experience is probably important for the club.

Football clubs aren't just businesses even tho they have to function as businesses. If its only business people on the board there is a risk the board loses sight of that. I don't think we should have just any footballer on the board but I think Stevo is very well suited to a position there because of his time playing with us. He saw success, failure and alot of s**t behaviour. He also saw how a strong on field culture didn't help off field. If he has a strong working relationship with Sonja, who does a have a track record of creating strong, successful cultures in organisations, then I can see a real benefit there.

I get the sentiment of what you're saying Ferbs and don't disagree entirely. My take though is more to do with the calibre of the individual(s) with football background. Take Stevo out and replace him with someone of the experience of Geoff Walsh, Greg Miller, Neil Balme, etc and it's a different proposition.

I absolutely see what Stevo brings in terms of historical importance and culture though.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

There is no criteria available to members as far as I know.

It mustn't be that stringent seeing that Crappers was approved by the process. :stern look

I assume the secret sauce includes a clause that rules out candidates who would be a total waste of time and money in an otherwise uncontested election. Like, a complete nuffy who can't pull more than 20 votes. That sounds bad from a democratic perspective, but considering an election apparently costs $50k, should the club be forced to spend the money so that a chronically unemployed, intellectually challenged, substance abuser who shouts at clouds can have a crack?

 

[gokangas]

I assume the secret sauce includes a clause that rules out candidates who would be a total waste of time and money in an otherwise uncontested election. Like, a complete nuffy who can't pull more than 20 votes. That sounds bad from a democratic perspective, but considering an election apparently costs $50k, should the club be forced to spend the money so that a chronically unemployed, intellectually challenged, substance abuser who shouts at clouds can have a crack?

It is democracy. But I do get the point. My sticking point is there is no clarity about the selection criteria for applicants.

 

[Orange Peanut]

should the club be forced to spend the money so that a chronically unemployed, intellectually challenged, substance abuser who shouts at clouds can have a crack?

I've got a job campaigner.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

I've got a job campaigner.

Orange Peanut is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is not a pr0n star!

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

It is democracy. But I do get the point. My sticking point is there is no clarity about the selection criteria for applicants.

Certainly, a little clarity around the criteria would be welcome.

 

[blackshadow]

Dinosaurs are meant to be extinct.

Arden Street is not Jurassic Park.

 

[blackshadow]

How about Emma Kearney? She's our inaugural AFLW captain and has been associated with our club prior to the AFLW starting.
Not necessarily to replace Anthony Stevens but to meet government requirements for funding.

I don't know enough about her non football activities. Does she bring any strategic business skills?

 

[Massive Unit]

Yes the Crappers social media campaign - what was that again? Some claim of being active on Linked In. Where the buzz is at and all the cool kids are hanging out.

Fun fact - my partner worked with old mate in recent years. Met him at a work function. Thank Christ he's not on our board is all I'll say. Strange unit (not a relative)

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

I don't know enough about her non football activities. Does she bring any strategic business skills?

She's a school teacher.

 

[ferball]

I get the sentiment of what you're saying Ferbs and don't disagree entirely. My take though is more to do with the calibre of the individual(s) with football background. Take Stevo out and replace him with someone of the experience of Geoff Walsh, Greg Miller, Neil Balme, etc and it's a different proposition.

I absolutely see what Stevo brings in terms of historical importance and culture though.

Right now our biggest issue is onfield and that's where I think his value lies. Its the area we need to put work into. Walsh, Miller or Balme would be an excellent replacement tho.

There is a story about Stevo when he was first at the club finishing training and then doing 10x400m as some extra work. He used to offer to the other players to come join him. He also played the 1999 GF with a fractured foot. I like the idea of that sort of person challenging the footy department right now.

 

[Massive Unit]

Right now our biggest issue is onfield and that's where I think his value lies. Its the area we need to put work into. Walsh, Miller or Balme would be an excellent replacement tho.

There is a story about Stevo when he was first at the club finishing training and then doing 10x400m as some extra work. He used to offer to the other players to come join him. He also played the 1999 GF with a fractured foot. I like the idea of that sort of person challenging the footy department right now.

I was talking to Stevo about the fractured foot/ankle at a dinner last week. He's certainly got some stories.

 

[Del191229]

As I said, it would be an unpopular opinion. My view is that Football Clubs are businesses and need the appropriate governance to run them.
I have no issues with past players sitting on the board, providing they bring an appropriate skillset to the role.

What does Stevo for example bring to the board as opposed to what he could contribute to the football department?

Say you wanted to approach a big name coach.

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

So when is a suitable time for a board challenge? Next year once hopefully we have some stability onfield?

 

[ferball]

So when is a suitable time for a board challenge? Next year once hopefully we have some stability onfield?

Now certainly isn't the time for noise around a board challenge.

If we're seriously working hard to sign Clarkson as coach then all this challenge talk is not helpful right now. And if it somehow results in the loss of Clarkson when people have been saying signing Clarkson is a make or break deal for the current board and Sonja then it comes across as a cheap scam.

The idea that Sonja should be judged on whether we get Clarko is out there whether you agree with it or not.

So if this sort of talk influences his decision and then that gets used as political ammo in a fight over control of the board then its obvious the people pushing the challenge undermined the club's best interest by sabotaging our attempts to sign Clarkson so they could challenge the board. (Or they didn't but still are really stupid and blinded by self interest, which is the same thing plus stupidity- ie worse.)

Maybe wait till 2024 so the new coach gets a season to show something with a stable preseason.

 

[Del191229]

It mustn't be that stringent seeing that Crappers was approved by the process. :stern look

Pretty shithouse process if Crappers got approved.

 

[Del191229]

Now certainly isn't the time for noise around a board challenge.

If we're seriously working hard to sign Clarkson as coach then all this challenge talk is not helpful right now. And if it somehow results in the loss of Clarkson when people have been saying signing Clarkson is a make or break deal for the current board and Sonja then it comes across as a cheap scam.

The idea that Sonja should be judged on whether we get Clarko is out there whether you agree with it or not.

So if this sort of talk influences his decision and then that gets used as political ammo in a fight over control of the board then its obvious the people pushing the challenge undermined the club's best interest by sabotaging our attempts to sign Clarkson so they could challenge the board. (Or they didn't but still are really stupid and blinded by self interest, which is the same thing plus stupidity- ie worse.)

Maybe wait till 2024 so the new coach gets a season to show something with a stable preseason.

The Prez has been there like 6 months too.

 

[Del191229]

Hopefully we don't hear any more of this crap if/when Clarkinho comes through the door.

 

[DuckYeah]

We saw this week that the club has the potential to go places and fast onfield.

The Noble situation has been handled well. The playing group isn't split.

We've got a good strong President who gets great media and is well connected politically.

Any board challenge now will worry prospective big name coaches looking at out list of kids with interest.

The old blokes had their run back in the day, and we thank them for their service.

But time to park the egos, and park their arses.

Support the club as we build on the brilliant foundations we've laid on and off field.

No board challenge this year.

Nah these narcissistic campaigners can **** right off. We are owned by the members, im staunch as ****. I’ll counter act them and be at the club holding these campaigners back if it must come to it

 

[Del191229]

New generation of leadership has stamped itself on the club.

 

[Mr north man]

Well after Dr Sonia Hood has done today is a great achievement I would the 1st to admit I didn’t think she could do it and thought this club was up the creek but I admit I was wrong .
So with that I hope our Chair women Dr Sonia Hood stays on for some time as for Good and Trainor stand aside and don’t challenge please for a board position even if there’s an election.
So yet again we’ll done Chairwoman Hood and hopefully this is the start of a new era at the NMFC and hopefully the rest of the board stand up with the executive,coaches,players and Supporters/Members including the Fair whether and start attending games next in Victoria and interstate.