Trade Requested Bailey Smith [reportedly headed to Geelong]

[VogonProsthetnic]

Draft him then wait for the AFL to hand out a top 5 pick with FA compo when he hits free agency.

Who cares if he plays in 2025?

What did North get for Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

- pick 3 wasn’t it?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Mackie is talking like the deal is a fait accompli. If you really want him, cough up his true worth you absolute tight arse.

Where in that interview gives off 'fait accompli' vibes, or does it suggest not paying a fair price?????

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Where in that interview gives off 'fait accompli' vibes, or does it suggest not paying a fair price?????

I think you're missing the added context of a panicked echo chamber full of baseless innuendo there.

 

[Wojcinski]

I find it almost unbelievable that so many people are missing the fact that Smith would nominate for the ND (not the PSD) where Geelong would use their first round pick to select him. There is almost zero risk to Smith or Geelong as no other team is going to use a first round pick on him. It'd be a huge win for Geelong as it means they get Smith for a single first round pick AND they weaken the Bulldogs draft hand as they now don't get to use the pick.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Draft him then wait for the AFL to hand out a top 5 pick with FA compo when he hits free agency.

Who cares if he plays in 2025?

What did North get for Ben McKay - pick 3 wasn’t it?

I think the offer cats have for him would be 5 years so you'd have him sitting out for 6 years until he's 29.

 

[Ashman23]

I find it almost unbelievable that so many people are missing the fact that Smith would nominate for the ND (not the PSD) where Geelong would use their first round pick to select him. There is almost zero risk to Smith or Geelong as no other team is going to use a first round pick on him. It'd be a huge win for Geelong as it means they get Smith for a single first round pick AND they weaken the Bulldogs draft hand as they now don't get to use the pick.

So, why don't Geelong just walk away from negotiations then? Either way you're using your first on Smith.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I think you're missing the added context of a panicked echo chamber full of baseless innuendo there.

The key element to this board is people pop in with the chips on their shoulders. Bitter and salty about past moves.

A lions fan was here earlier taking a pop at the Dogs (Dunkley chips). Before we had an Eagles fan (Kelly chips) and Sewer is displaying Esava chips.

 

[Superstar swan]

lol every year hutchy needs a storyline to boost trade radio traffic . He’s not going to the draft. The deal will get/ is done already. They just need to drag it out for clicks

 

[Wojcinski]

So, why don't Geelong just walk away from negotiations then? Either way you're using your first on Smith.

Probably because they don't want to completely **** over another side

 

[Wojcinski]

The key element to this board is people pop in with the chips on their shoulders. Bitter and salty about past moves.

A lions fan was here earlier taking a pop at the Dogs (Dunkley chips). Before we had an Eagles fan (Kelly chips) and Sewer is displaying Esava chips.

I'd have Esava chips too if I was a Port fan.. not because of the trade but because now I'd have to watch Esava play for my club

 

[STPer18]

Day 1: Draft/PSD mentioned at least fifty times.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Day 1: Draft/PSD mentioned at least fifty times.

I think there's a fan emotional investment to player social media engagement relationship that we can quantify here. Could publish a paper.

 

[Pencil case]

I'd have Esava chips too if I was a Port fan.. not because of the trade but because now I'd have to watch Esava play for my club

Yet he was “worth a first rounder” and Bailey Smith is worth pick 20. Make it make sense.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yet he was “worth a first rounder” and Bailey Smith is worth pick 20. Make it make sense.

Well we didn't get that. We were offered a pick in the 30s, which we said was unacceptable, then signed off on that pick plus picks 72 and 96 if memory serves.

 

[JackOutback]

They will absolutely not be taking a Victorian who actively doesn't want to be there. I don't think you get how poisonous that is to a playing group that already has people that would probably rather be playing in Vic. Of all the teams that would even consider it GWS is not one of them.

I think in all likelihood, he is going to Geelong via trade. But this suggestion that no one would dare pick him up in the ND is a bit of false bravado, or as pointed out, why wouldn’t Geelong just skip negotiations and send him to the draft? The first coach and admin staff to guide GWS to a premiership will be celebrated. If making someone who doesn’t want to play there play there for a year gets it done, it’s a gamble worth taking. Unless you think Smith is so unprofessional he’ll deliberately underperform and further tank his value. He’d suit up, play the best he can, see put his contract and move on.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

So, why don't Geelong just walk away from negotiations then? Either way you're using your first on Smith.

Part of the job is remaining amicable, and I'd assume there's unwritten rules of things that you just don't do.

Part of their job is negotiating in good faith, and while some do this better than others, pushing the massive red button of taking him to the draft straight away sours that premise.

All it takes is one crazy list manager to set a precedent, and the whole thing falls down.

There's no conspiracy in it, it's just like our everyday lives really.

There's things that you can do in theory...but you don't, because it's probably a dumb idea and there are likely consequences that come with it.

In simple terms, it's a dick move.

 

[Ash1337]

I think in all likelihood, he is going to Geelong via trade. But this suggestion that no one would dare pick him up in the ND is a bit of false bravado, or as pointed out, why wouldn’t Geelong just skip negotiations and send him to the draft? The first coach and admin staff to guide GWS to a premiership will be celebrated. If making someone who doesn’t want to play there play there for a year gets it done, it’s a gamble worth taking. Unless you think Smith is do unprofessional he’ll deliberately underperform and further tank his value. He’d suit up, play the best he can, see put his contract and move on.

There are a few teams that would take a punt on him if it means it means gets them closer to a premiership.

Saints who failed to make finals after 2023 even though many of their losses were close ones.

Pies who are into Smith if they can get ahead of the cats would rather take him.

GWS who have lost a lot of experience will need to find a way to bring some experience to keep in finals chances and smith makes sense even for the year.

Sydney who would chase him if he was available in the ND because he's a proven finals player and they'd be desperate after this season.

 

[Barrybran]

There are a few teams that would take a punt on him if it means it means gets them closer to a premiership.

Saints who failed to make finals after 2023 even though many of their losses were close ones.

Pies who are into Smith if they can get ahead of the cats would rather take him.

GWS who have lost a lot of experience will need to find a way to bring some experience to keep in finals chances and smith makes sense even for the year.

Sydney who would chase him if he was available in the ND because he's a proven finals player and they'd be desperate after this season.

WCE and Richmond would have a throw at the stumps as well with multiple picks before Geelong's first pick