Trade Requested Bailey Smith

[_Cerberus_]

Father Sons and Academy blokes aren’t accessible to the rest of the Draft. You may as well just wipe them off the Draft board.

Teams will match anything for those guys, especially now the JUH Rule has been scrapped.

Pick 15 is still the 15th best available player whether it’s at 15 or 21.

You’re not drafting Ashcroft, Kako, Lombard, Welsh, Campo brothers etc.
No point adding them into the Draft pool.

No its not. If someone BIDS on an academy player at pick 8, that means THAT team viewed said player as being the 8th best player in the draft. They don't become invisible and irrelevant. Pick 15 becoming 20th, means you're drafting what teams view as the 20th best player in the draft, no matter how much you try and spin it. Its only the 15th LIVE pick. Not the 15th best player in the draft.

 

[dinnaz]

Im not sure why people keep banging on about 20 and academy players pushing 15 back. Those guys are not in the open pool anyway so you still get access to the same player.

As for clohesy doesnt surprise me as hes ooc and a fringe player who could be movable for more gametime. I will be sad to lose him if it happens but thats life its fine.

Thats an absolute fallacy in thinking though. It's like you are to start the draft at 3/4 strength while others get to pick from full strength.
I'm not sure I buy the "they wouldn't exist" reasoning either. The clubs & AFL have always had a finger in the Sydney/Brisbane pie.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Who reported it?
Cats didn’t play him because he’s not 100% coming off knee surgery…nothing to do with form.
He’s easily best 22.

I swear to god if someone quotes Jon Ralph as a source I’m stabbing my eyes out with a fork.
Dude is right about .5% of the time.
Throws personal opinion into all of his statements. He’s one of the worst along with McClure.

And this is how sensationalist media run with bullshit and get people to eat it up.

You're, umm, pretty level headed when talking about Geelong trading in top players from other clubs.

...but the minute a solid Cats player is said to be gettable you lose it completely!

Perhaps level headedness is the ability to remain, err, rational when it goes both ways.

Put the fork away, son.

 

[Pencil case]

Wouldn't want to lose him but he'd be a good get for you and we wouldn't stand in his way.

How many fringe mids do we need?

sure, we’ll take him for the VFL squad, but we’ll still be expecting at least a first and second you’d think.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

How many fringe mids do we need?

sure, we’ll take him for the VFL squad, but we’ll still be expecting at least a first and second you’d think.

He can run through the middle but his impact is as a forward. You know your list better than me but I think you'd want small forwards? He's showing good signs but behind 4x good small forwards for us at the moment.

I'd be very happy if dogs weren't interested

 

[Danog]

EZ PSD Snipe

 

[Pencil case]

He can run through the middle but his impact is as a forward. You know your list better than me but I think you'd want small forwards? He's showing good signs but behind 4x good small forwards for us at the moment.

I'd be very happy if dogs weren't interested

I’m scarred from picking up clubs sloppy seconds. Although Bramble was an amazing get, most others have been duds.

 

[TY24]

Father Sons and Academy blokes aren’t accessible to the rest of the Draft. You may as well just wipe them off the Draft board.

They are, they’re just harder to access.

There’s nothing stopping Richmond from trying to take Ashcroft at 1 and forcing GC to either spend more picks than they’d like to matching it, or let him go.

Yes, it’s unlikely to happen, but to say they’re not accessible is just flat out incorrect.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I’m scarred from picking up clubs sloppy seconds. Although Bramble was an amazing get, most others have been duds.

I hear you, but I'm reasonably confident in Clohesy. Just stuck behind Miers, Close, Stengle, and now Mannagh. Happy to keep him because I think we may see him get a run in the middle with us.

 

[Ash1337]

I expect if Clohesy is part of the deal, he'll be steak knives on top of whatever deal is accepted. Has no value because he's a rookie with only 3 games. Dogs are going hard at SDK so maybe forcing cats to pay more is the ploy in targeting him just to get them to back off.

 

[Tonythetiger]

They are, they’re just harder to access.

There’s nothing stopping Richmond from trying to take Ashcroft at 1 and forcing GC to either spend more picks than they’d like to matching it, or let him go.

Yes, it’s unlikely to happen, but to say they’re not accessible is just flat out incorrect.

A side has first refusal with an absolute upper limit of the points value of number 1 minus any discounts the league has made available. I'd say that sound pretty bloody inaccessible. Look at JUH, imagine a clubs says, "Listen, we will offer our first and second for two years", it exceeds the value of pick 1, but they can't pick him. How can you say that a player like that is accessible?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I expect if Clohesy is part of the deal, he'll be steak knives on top of whatever deal is accepted. Has no value because he's a rookie with only 3 games. Dogs are going hard at SDK so maybe forcing cats to pay more is the ploy in targeting him just to get them to back off.

I agree with that. Clohesy really only has the value of a late late pick at best but might be a throw in with the deal.

 

[Pencil case]

I agree with that. Clohesy really only has the value of a late late pick at best but might be a throw in with the deal.

It’s cloheser, but I’d still want more.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Im not sure why people keep banging on about 20 and academy players pushing 15 back. Those guys are not in the open pool anyway so you still get access to the same player.

As for clohesy doesnt surprise me as hes ooc and a fringe player who could be movable for more gametime. I will be sad to lose him if it happens but thats life its fine.

But you're still only getting the 20th best player. You have to assume that that 20th best player despite being the 15th best available player will be as good as any other 20th best available player in a year that there's zero academy and father son-prospects.

Its like how in 2012 because Jaeger O'Meara was taken out of the draft pool, while the likes of O'Rouke, Plowman and Toumpas were "bad" picks 2, 3 and 4, in some ways it's less so because O'Meara would have been the true pick 1 in the draft that year, pushing Whitfield and those three back a pick in a live draft.

 

[Northernsoul74]

I expect if Clohesy is part of the deal, he'll be steak knives on top of whatever deal is accepted. Has no value because he's a rookie with only 3 games. Dogs are going hard at SDK so maybe forcing cats to pay more is the ploy in targeting him just to get them to back off.

Where did you hear we are going hard for SDK?

 

[Doggy]

Where did you hear we are going hard for SDK?

Majorison on our board