Yeah it is buddyA top 10 pick is not over for him.
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Yeah it is buddyA top 10 pick is not over for him.
Well over until he has shown he has recaptured his form and agility.A top 10 pick is not over for him.
Well over until he has shown he has recaptured his form and agility.
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If he was in full form he'd be worth more than a top 10 picks.Well over until he has shown he has recaptured his form and agility.
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No he isn’t was poor in 2023 and ACL this year.How do you propose he does that when out for the season?
He absolutely is worth a top 10 pick and is absolutely worth the punt for Hawthorn
If he was in full form, only average to good in 23 and we don't know how he will pull up post ACL. Not worth the risk at the moment, better to wait for FA or late first at best.If he was in full form he'd be worth more than a top 10 picks.
Based on your mailI’ve noticed, the only people saying he’s not worth a top 10 pick are Pies fans who think they will get him for a second rounder.
No hard feelings, I wish I could get every teams top end talent for peanuts too!
No they are rebuilding now, they just get to enjoy Danger and the best player in the competition while they do it.People have been saying for years that Geelong will be rebuilding soon and it hasn’t happened
Curious If he does nominate Geelong what are you expecting in return?I’ve noticed, the only people saying he’s not worth a top 10 pick are Pies fans who think they will get him for a second rounder.
No hard feelings, I wish I could get every teams top end talent for peanuts too!
They may be over rated but if he went to cats I dunno how we'd upgrade it for you. Unless we won like maybe 2 games for the rest of the season. Actually I wouldn't completely rule that out.Draft picks are so overrated. Worth a pick 6 to 10. He's the most marketable player in the game and has delivered at a high level since being drafted.
The draft is a lottery and you know what you are getting with Baz. He's either going to be 2nd or 3rd best player on your midfield or if he recaptured 2021 form the best midfielder in your team.
Frankly I don't want him going anymore he's a good player
"Poor" is an unusual way to describe Bailey Smith in 2023, considering he split his time mostly on a wing and at times at centre bounce and a forward flank (not too dissimilar to Collingwood's Best and Fairest winner in 2023).No he isn’t was poor in 2023 and ACL this year.
Eye test. Stats never paint the full picture."Poor" is an unusual way to describe Bailey Smith in 2023, considering he split his time mostly on a wing and at times at centre bounce and a forward flank (not too dissimilar to Collingwood's Best and Fairest winner in 2023).
Statistically, this is how Bailey compared to Josh:
I don't think the difference in stats holistically suggests one is "poor" and the other is the best player in the best team in the league. The kicking efficiency is clearly a problem, admittedly, but again not enough to suggest Bailey was poor. He was below his own lofty standards, for sure.
- -1.5 disposals per game
- -1.3 marks per game
- +1.2 tackles per game
- +0.6 clearances per game
- -0.6 turnovers per game
- +3.9 pressure acts per game
- -3.3% disposal efficiency
- -12% kick efficiency
Oh yeah, let's take the common footy eye test over literal statistics. Brilliant.Eye test. Stats never paint the full picture.
Did he regress in 2023?
Draft picks are so overrated. Worth a pick 6 to 10. He's the most marketable player in the game and has delivered at a high level since being drafted.
Would anyone offer a top ten pick for Josh Daicos who was a better player?"Poor" is an unusual way to describe Bailey Smith in 2023, considering he split his time mostly on a wing and at times at centre bounce and a forward flank (not too dissimilar to Collingwood's Best and Fairest winner in 2023).
Statistically, this is how Bailey compared to Josh:
I don't think the difference in stats holistically suggests one is "poor" and the other is the best player in the best team in the league. The kicking efficiency is clearly a problem, admittedly, but again not enough to suggest Bailey was poor. He was below his own lofty standards, for sure.
- -1.5 disposals per game
- -1.3 marks per game
- +1.2 tackles per game
- +0.6 clearances per game
- -0.6 turnovers per game
- +3.9 pressure acts per game
- -3.3% disposal efficiency
- -12% kick efficiency
I’m not sure I mentioned anything about Baileys worth in my post?Would anyone offer a top ten pick for Josh Daicos who was a better player?
Another stat of importance for a mid is metres gained - Daicos again well ahead 419 metres per game to 340.
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Nope. Late 1st at best. Top 10 pick would only be for a KPP.How do you propose he does that when out for the season?
He absolutely is worth a top 10 pick and is absolutely worth the punt for Hawthorn
Lmfao..there would be multiple on ballers across the league worth a top 10 pick.Nope. Late 1st at best. Top 10 pick would only be for a KPP.
eye test is only as good as the eyes of the viewer. sometimes stat's don't tell the whole story. a good comparison is dyson heppell being rated like a top 50 player - it's identified that he's in some good form, and it's certainly up from years past, but he's playing a role relatively well - but the stuff he does that doesn't get a stat, sheperding, 1%ers, on-field coaching are equally as important - that's where the eye test works.Oh yeah, let's take the common footy eye test over literal statistics. Brilliant.
Did he regress? Of course he did, but that's not what you said, you said he was poor - your failure to understand the difference is why your eye test is rubbish. Bontempelli has also regressed on last year, does that make him poor?
Pretty much, the upside is massive, of course the ACL is a concern but the fact is he is performing at an above expected level, prior to his peak.eye test is only as good as the eyes of the viewer. sometimes stat's don't tell the whole story. a good comparison is dyson heppell being rated like a top 50 player - it's identified that he's in some good form, and it's certainly up from years past, but he's playing a role relatively well - but the stuff he does that doesn't get a stat, sheperding, 1%ers, on-field coaching are equally as important - that's where the eye test works.
he mightn't "look" good but he was playing well last year, and i think the bulldogs would be loving him if he was able to play right now. realistically he should be entering his prime over the next year or two.
Pretty much, the upside is massive, of course the ACL is a concern but the fact is he is performing at an above expected level, prior to his peak.
Top ten picks have been spent on worse.