Trade Requested Bailey Smith [reportedly headed to Geelong]

[CatToTheFuture]

Your rebuild has barely started.

Yeah it has really gone by in the blink of an eye

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Yeah it has really gone by in the blink of an eye

Like the energiser bunny that never runs out. Admired as an opposotion supporter, but also dam annoying lol.

Good job Cats!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Like the energiser bunny that never runs out. Admired as an opposotion supporter, but also dam annoying lol.

Good job Cats!

Bit tongue in cheek, we still have a fair few pieces to add

 

[BIGHAWK23]

I hate your stadiums parking infrastructure

But respect your club

May the best team win
(In regards to smith)

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Bit tongue in cheek, we still have a fair few pieces to add

Yeah but you’re not bottoming out and remaining a threat each year.

 

[FB19]

Yeah but you’re not bottoming out and remaining a threat each year.

Yes but does that allow genuine contending or hanging around in the top half is the question. I didn’t come away from the game thinking wow the cats have amassed a lot of young talent. Holmes and Dempsey speak for themselves. Will be interesting to watch the box hill replay too. Anyway smith has 2 good clubs and pay days so I don’t think he’s overly worried.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I hate your stadiums parking infrastructure

But respect your club

May the best team win
(In regards to smith)

Going to be hilarious if he just stays at the Dogs after all this.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yes but does that allow genuine contending or hanging around in the top half is the question. I didn’t come away from the game thinking wow the cats have amassed a lot of young talent. Holmes and Dempsey speak for themselves. Will be interesting to watch the box hill replay too. Anyway smith has 2 good clubs and pay days so I don’t think he’s overly worried.

We literally won a premiership 18 months ago

 

[FB19]

We literally won a premiership 18 months ago

Sure no knock on that and many clubs would kill for it. If though you don’t win another flag this decade (and with losing multiple hall of famers maybe longer) then the strategy which probably started mid 2010s nets you about the average # of premierships expected but without the dip down to the bottom. Maybe that’s worth it and maybe the days of multiple flags in a window are gone with the evening out of the competition.
I do find it weird that the cats are lauded as geniuses, yet King earlier this year asked if fagan should be replaced, because maybe after 5 consecutive finals, 4 top 4 finishes and losing a GF by 4 points he doesn’t quite have what it takes.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Sure no knock on that and many clubs would kill for it. If though you don’t win another flag this decade (and with losing multiple hall of famers maybe longer) then the strategy which probably started mid 2010s nets you about the average # of premierships expected but without the dip down to the bottom. Maybe that’s worth it and maybe the days of multiple flags in a window are gone with the evening out of the competition.
I do find it weird that the cats are lauded as geniuses, yet King earlier this year asked if fagan should be replaced, because maybe after 5 consecutive finals, 4 top 4 finishes and losing a GF by 4 points he doesn’t quite have what it takes.

"Sure winning games and premierships is nice but have you tried accepting defeat lately?"

No thanks

 

[FootyLad0]

Sure no knock on that and many clubs would kill for it. If though you don’t win another flag this decade (and with losing multiple hall of famers maybe longer) then the strategy which probably started mid 2010s nets you about the average # of premierships expected but without the dip down to the bottom. Maybe that’s worth it and maybe the days of multiple flags in a window are gone with the evening out of the competition.
I do find it weird that the cats are lauded as geniuses, yet King earlier this year asked if fagan should be replaced, because maybe after 5 consecutive finals, 4 top 4 finishes and losing a GF by 4 points he doesn’t quite have what it takes.

CatToTheFuture is right. We'd rather do what we've been doing as it clearly works, it's envied around the League.
Teams are trying to emulate what Geelong have done (Freo just poached one of our top scouts) and i don't blame them.

Cats will always be an attractive place because of the winning culture and the lifestyle that can be provided to players.
Sure, not every player wants to live away from the media spotlight but a lot of them do.

You have the appeal to country kids with farming and acreage, you have the surf/fishing/boat culture down surf coast way and on top of that you're still only just over an hour from the big smoke so it's not a World away if you wanted to go clubbing/bars there.

You have an ingrained ideal of a club that wants to succeed and not tank (never finished lower than 12th...longest spoon drought)
A club that doesn't want to rely on just top draft picks to stack the list. They go alternative all the time. Whether that's late picks, rookie draft selections, guys with a different sporting background (Wells is a bloody genius)

And on top of all of that, you have developmental pathways through the local leagues and up through to the Falcons with the proverbial Geelong Footy Factory, the appeal to go Home is always there.

If people don't think all of above is enticing to a guy like Bailey Smith then they're crazy.
The guy has said before he likes it down the surf coast way.

 

[FB19]

CatToTheFuture is right. We'd rather do what we've been doing as it clearly works, it's envied around the League.
Teams are trying to emulate what Geelong have done (Freo just poached one of our top scouts) and i don't blame them.

Cats will always be an attractive place because of the winning culture and the lifestyle that can be provided to players.
Sure, not every player wants to live away from the media spotlight but a lot of them do.

You have the appeal to country kids with farming and acreage, you have the surf/fishing/boat culture down surf coast way and on top of that you're still only just over an hour from the big smoke so it's not a World away if you wanted to go clubbing/bars there.

You have an ingrained ideal of a club that wants to succeed and not tank (never finished lower than 12th...longest spoon drought)
A club that doesn't want to rely on just top draft picks to stack the list. They go alternative all the time. Whether that's late picks, rookie draft selections, guys with a different sporting background (Wells is a bloody genius)

And on top of all of that, you have developmental pathways through the local leagues and up through to the Falcons with the proverbial Geelong Footy Factory, the appeal to go Home is always there.

If people don't think all of above is enticing to a guy like Bailey Smith then they're crazy.
The guy has said before he likes it down the surf coast way.

Yep it’s undoubtedly been a success and it’s easy to see why the club gets the players to come. The total rebuild path has hardly ever worked because in reality, there is so little difference between first and last (pick 1 is it), so what the cats have done has made total sense.
On Bailey smith which I just noticed is the title of the thread, I am 85% sure that he will leave the dogs, 65/35 cats v hawks, 100% comfortable either way.

 

[bobs head soup]

Thought this was the Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

thread?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yep it’s undoubtedly been a success and it’s easy to see why the club gets the players to come. The total rebuild path has hardly ever worked because in reality, there is so little difference between first and last (pick 1 is it), so what the cats have done has made total sense.
On Bailey smith which I just noticed is the title of the thread, I am 85% sure that he will leave the dogs, 65/35 cats v hawks, 100% comfortable either way.

Yeah I reckon bailey means a lot more to us than to you. We lack speed and power in the young contested mids and we need someone who can balance it. It'll make all the others that bit more dangerous.

 

[Go Woods]

It's obvious he's picking Geelong or Hawthorn because he sees the sinking ship at Collingwood.

Young players are spuds outside of Daicos, and they're about to enter a 10 year rebuild. Maybe 5 if they're lucky

Baz is smart enough to know better than to go to that cesspool and waste his career like old mate FIGJAM.




....That better?

Yeah, we'll see, we don't do rebuilds.

 

[FootyLad0]

Going to be hilarious if he just stays at the Dogs after all this.

Can we get a running countdown clock until Trade Period on this thread. Honestly, should be locked until October lol

EDIT: I'm on it.

Here's the clock peeps

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Yeah, we'll see, we don't do rebuilds.

If you can't comprehend that the post was a pisstake then I can't help you.

 

[THE_GUN]

So what are both clubs prepared to give up for Smith

 

[CatToTheFuture]

So what are both clubs prepared to give up for Smith

If it's me I'd throw out first in, then pretend to um and ah about it before throwing our second in the ring too.

Most cats fans I don't think would do the second part

 

[THE_GUN]

If it's me I'd throw out first in, then pretend to um and ah about it before throwing our second in the ring too.

Most cats fans I don't think would do the second part

Fair call i think you would be on the money with a 1st +2nd
Cats make finals and 1st pick around 15 seems light and 2nd pick around 40 would be the min you would think

But Doggies might just accept F1

 

[FB19]

So what are both clubs prepared to give up for Smith

Either f1 or one of the 2 firsts this year if we split our pick for 2 in the teens.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Fair call i think you would be on the money with a 1st +2nd
Cats make finals and 1st pick around 15 seems light and 2nd pick around 40 would be the min you would think

But Doggies might just accept F1

The F1 is one thing I don't think the Cats would touch. They know a harder draw with 7 retirements makes that pick untradable. I would throw nearly everything else at it.

I am probably the biggest fan of a Bailey smith to cats trade you'll meet and not even I would do that.

 

[Mofra]

The F1 is one thing I don't think the Cats would touch. They know a harder draw with 7 retirements makes that pick untradable. I would throw nearly everything else at it.

I am probably the biggest fan of a Bailey smith to cats trade you'll meet and not even I would do that.

We have no first rounder this year so a first this draft period is more attractive to us, especially with the FS haul next year.

 

[Hamingja]

We have no first rounder this year so a first this draft period is more attractive to us, especially with the FS haul next year.

That's good. Could see us finishing 12th or something next year so wouldn't want to trade F1. Our first this year plus later future picks for points next year would be ok from my perspective.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We have no first rounder this year so a first this draft period is more attractive to us, especially with the FS haul next year.

Lock it in Eddie

I reckon it ends up being one of the least controversial trades in a while, but also, one of the only real trades of the period so I assume the media environment will get pretty toxic.