Agree, and I don't think we'll go all out total rebuild where youth is the be all and end all. We're renovating as Ross says. As it currently stands, McKenzie would be an upgrade on not only Dawson and Collins but also Tabs and Apeness (notwithstanding improvement from the young guys over the off season obviously)
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Agree, and I don't think we'll go all out total rebuild where youth is the be all and end all. We're renovating as Ross says. As it currently stands, McKenzie would be an upgrade on not only Dawson and Collins but also Tabs and Apeness (notwithstanding improvement from the young guys over the off season obviously)
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Good points Meima and to a large degree, I agree. I just have little faith in Johnson and Dawson to survive another season fully fit... I just think Mckenzie provides what we're really needing into 2017 while those guys you mention develop and are introduced into the team throughout the year. Henderson at geebung, suckling at WB etc
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west coast need a ruck with NicNat out and Lycett being Lycett.
happy to send Clarke and Ballas there for McKenzie to be honest
Toovey or Goldsack would be good, upgrades on what we have
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happy to send Clarke and Ballas there for McKenzie to be honest
Toovey or Goldsack would be good, upgrades on what we have
(gosh just checked my sig and far out I've had some duds to buddy LOL)
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Toovey retired.
Clarke and Ballas for EMac?
Haha okey.
Emac is worth neither in a straight player for player trade. He is done and will be lucky to rack up 20 more games of AFL.
Yes I'm writing EMac off.
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You're the kiss of death.
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After watching him on Ch9 news, I reckon he's gone. Offer tabled from somewhere else.
You must of picked up something between the lines because all I heard is that he is contracted and playing for Freo next year. Must admit I am nearly in the don't care mode anymore as we do need some picks to get Hill, McCarthy and Kersten etc
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Wow kersten a long shot.
Sure, Kersten is only a rumour like Hogan and Lobb and many others being linked to our club. But the more we are trading the more likely it is that we are trying to bring back more players beyond Hill and McCarthy.
Personally I would be happy with keeping pick 3 (because Lobb and Hogan are not coming IMO) and just getting Hill and McCarthy and then drafting for our weaknesses like ruck etc.
So that would mean leaving WA with his young family and the club he loves to have one extra year of security.
Fremantle already agreed to extend him by one year past next ie; 2018.
Nah.
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I wonder if he will cop the umpiring crap if he plays for another team.
If Ballantyne wants out, it is unrealistic to think we can turn that into a great young player to help with this Melbourne-esque rebuild people seem to think we need. Ballantyne would only get us a very late selection, which would require a complete fluke at the draft table to be a good trade.
Getting a swap for a similar age player would be a fair result. Not sure if that player should be MacKenzie, but I don't think his age should be an issue. Not the best kick, but neither was McPharlin. Before the knee he was a great stopper and way better than Dawson, Collins and Silvagni. If he is just going through the common struggles coming back from a knee, he could be a very solid player to have on our list for the next 2-4 years.
Getting a swap for a similar age player would be a fair result. Not sure if that player should be MacKenzie, but I don't think his age should be an issue. Not the best kick, but neither was McPharlin. Before the knee he was a great stopper and way better than Dawson, Collins and Silvagni. If he is just going through the common struggles coming back from a knee, he could be a very solid player to have on our list for the next 2-4 years.
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Lecras is the biggest downhill skier of all time. I'll say this, we could do with anyone with a big of heart. October 3, 2015 still haunts me.
He'll suddenly be very good at "drawing for a free kick" from his opponent.
Unfortunately I think both players are no longer at their best, being in the twilight of their careers. The thing with Ballantyne is that he gets too vigorous at times and ends up getting suspended. Personally I don't want him - think he should stay at the Dockers until he retires. At his age will probably only be offered a year by year contract with the a Eagles anyway which from my understanding he wants a 3 year contract so more than likely won't happen. With Nic going down we have higher priorities now - need to address the midfield and ruck before even thinking about the forward line.
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Ballantyne has kicked 26 goals 14 behinds at 60% from 18 games. 3rd accurate at our club.
The 2 guys better than him accuracy wise? Walters has kicked 38 goals 14 at 65 %
Tabs leads at 75% at 18 goals and 6 behinds from 17 games.
Give collins another year and tighten up the ease of the ball coming into the opposition forward line and Collins will be better than all those three. IMO
Agree, this is the stupidity of him/Manager, talk about cutting off your nose...
Will he work out what appears to be obvious and stay. I actually think he will, but strangely, I don't care anymore.
How would we feel about a straight swap for McCarthy?
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Both got the same player manager , done deal move on.
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