unfortunately that would be draft tampering and its not allowed, you can put a hefty price on your head to repel non preferred clubs but thats about it. Dont forget nick stevens preferred collingwood but got drafted to carlton in the PSD.
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unfortunately that would be draft tampering and its not allowed, you can put a hefty price on your head to repel non preferred clubs but thats about it. Dont forget nick stevens preferred collingwood but got drafted to carlton in the PSD.
#14Ward
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If Bazza goes into the Pre-Season draft, who else is interested in him?
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Why would we give up a 2nd round pick for a retired player? Why would another team take him, he doesnt even want to play for them? Why would Sydney want nothing more then a 4th rounder? (4th rounder isnt great but you never know, Brian Lake pick 70 or something around that)
grimlock
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It all depends on how many players Sydney are planning to draft. In recent history, that has tended to be the minimum 3. Your 4th rounder assuming no other picks come in or out would be our 5th pick and there is a good chance that pick will not be used.
#14Ward
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There just playing hard-ball, hoping to spark attention from other clubs who would stretch to that trade.
It will be no higher then a 3rd round pick.
It will be no higher then a 3rd round pick.
Its hard not to take note of your posts Aussie Gun. In fact keep them coming...
In all seriousness you do make sense most times aswell.
I think we should be careful with the fact that if a player nominates a club then the manager 'turns the phone off'. We apparently have a player who has nominated carlton as his preffered destination...
Barry Hall likely to join Bulldogs
Former Sydney co-captain Barry Hall still appears headed to the Western Bulldogs, despite talks stalling between the two AFL clubs.
The Swans want a second-round draft pick in return for the key forward and the Bulldogs say that will not happen.
But Swans coach Paul Roos acknowledges that, one way or the other, Hall will probably end up with the `Dogs.
"We've always been respectful of Hally and we hope he goes to the Bulldogs," Roos said.
"He will - he'll either get there through the trade or the pre-season draft.
"He'll play with the Bulldogs next year."
http://news.realfooty.com.au/breaki...kely-to-join-bulldogs-roos-20090930-gcnq.html
Former Sydney co-captain Barry Hall still appears headed to the Western Bulldogs, despite talks stalling between the two AFL clubs.
The Swans want a second-round draft pick in return for the key forward and the Bulldogs say that will not happen.
But Swans coach Paul Roos acknowledges that, one way or the other, Hall will probably end up with the `Dogs.
"We've always been respectful of Hally and we hope he goes to the Bulldogs," Roos said.
"He will - he'll either get there through the trade or the pre-season draft.
"He'll play with the Bulldogs next year."
http://news.realfooty.com.au/breaki...kely-to-join-bulldogs-roos-20090930-gcnq.html
Don't like this 'like it or lump it' approach towards Sydney. Why jeopardise a sure thing, and piss the Swans off should we want to trade next time? Give them the 3rd rounder or the fringe player, and get the big boy down here to start training our boys/with our boys ASAP!
I wont intrude with arrogance as I enjoy posting here, but I do think that the Bulldogs' 4th rounder is useless to us. It's a very low 4th rounder and we actually are no worse off if we chuck him in the PSD.
You might well get him for free, but if the Blues lose Fev they might be in the market for a big forward while they're approaching a serious flag tilt and I wouldn't rule out Hall going to Carlton if they made him an offer. Obviously he wants to be a Bulldog, but to say he'd definitely turn down any other side is naive.
Pick 47 isn't anything special in this draft (Unless we get extremely lucky, but that's irrelevant) and in exchange you're getting a player who could easily stay fit for 2-3 years and give you a better chance at immediate success.
My personal view is that pick 47 and a fringe player would be fair, but a 4th rounder is just insulting and I'm sure most fair minded people would acknowledge that.
You might well get him for free, but if the Blues lose Fev they might be in the market for a big forward while they're approaching a serious flag tilt and I wouldn't rule out Hall going to Carlton if they made him an offer. Obviously he wants to be a Bulldog, but to say he'd definitely turn down any other side is naive.
Pick 47 isn't anything special in this draft (Unless we get extremely lucky, but that's irrelevant) and in exchange you're getting a player who could easily stay fit for 2-3 years and give you a better chance at immediate success.
My personal view is that pick 47 and a fringe player would be fair, but a 4th rounder is just insulting and I'm sure most fair minded people would acknowledge that.
May we see an upgrading of picks or something?
Maybe our second rounder for their third and Barry Hall?
Maybe our second rounder for their third and Barry Hall?
That's a fair and reasonable post.
I guess at the moment in the lead up to trade week, it is pure ambit claims at the moment from both sides. We want Hall and want to give away bugger all for him. And you want to get as much as you can for an old player that you have virtually sacked anyway. So I would think that we would meet somewhere in the middle and reach a compromise.
I was initially hoping for a fourth rounder and a fringe player but a third rounder and fringe player seems more fair. I am probably biased here, but I still think you would get good value out of our fringe player, whoever it is. A guy like Guy O Keefe would be a good player for you IMO. The point I a making is that you are not going to get a dud.
I wouldn't be suprised if both clubs meet in the middle and a 3rd round pick is used for Barry. Mind you, Leigh Matthews said today that he considered a 4th round selection was appropriate.
Fair point, if the Swannies were planning on using the 4th round pick to draft a player, or not use it at all. However it may come in handy in a subsequent trade to get a deal across the line.
Besides, the drafting of players is such an inexact science, that just because a pick is in the 4th round doesn't mean there isn't a potential 200 game player hidden there. Ryan O'Keefe and Daniel Cross were 4th round selections, and James Hird was a 6th round pick!!!
Scragger54
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Cam Wight or Wade Skipper!
I think a stand alone third round pick is fair enough, and I agree that our fourth round selection would be pretty much useless to you.
However, the Swans sacked/let retire a guy half way through the year, and are now requesting a second round selection for him, even though he is out of contract. Now surely if the Bulldogs offering a fourth round selection in your mind is insulting, what would you call the Swans request for a second round selection?
I think the Dogs have proven themselves to be reasonable traders over the last few years, and I'm pretty sure a third rounder will get it done. But I don't think we should be giving any players away on top of that.
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Pick 47 won't be useless to the swans as they have quite a few retiries and a couple of cuts from their list. From all report you will be trading your third round pick for Seaby too.
How many kids do you think you will be drafting this year?
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Addison, Lynch or GOK.
SEEING EYE DOG
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I think Tim Callan might be the fringe player. Even
though I am a loyal Doggies supporter, I don't want
to see a repeat of the way we treated Adelaide
in the Hudson trade. That was disgraceful.
though I am a loyal Doggies supporter, I don't want
to see a repeat of the way we treated Adelaide
in the Hudson trade. That was disgraceful.
That is a disgraceful post!
They got a 2nd Round pick for him which they agreed upon, they also knew we were going to downgrade the pick had they had a problem with that they would not have agreed to it.
It appears you do need a "Seeing Eye Dog"
But not quite as disgraceful as our behaviour in the Lachlan Veale deal. Didn't we hear the Karma Bus coming ?
grimlock
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Pick 47 is your third rounder, which DA has already stated would be of use to the Swans. However, your fourth rounder Pick 64 is a different matter altogether.
How many kids will the Swans be drafting? No idea, they've delayed their delisting decisions until after the trade week.
I don't think that Matty Rendell knew that we were going to swap picks like that with West Coast. Scott Clayton took advantage of the new rule and stitched up Adelaide. Unethical or All's fair in love in war? It depends on the side of the fence you are sitting. We did well out of that deal(I think we indirectly received Sam Reid) so I am not complaining. But sometimes things like that can come back to bite you in future drafts.
That was Rendells first draft in that position so it was a steep learning curve for him.
I'm pretty sure they said they were going to downgrade the pick from the get go or am I thinking of the Aker deal?
