BBL Match 31 Adelaide Strikers v Brisbane Heat 11/1 1930hrs @ the Adelaide Oval

[LukeParkerno1]

England don't trust Robinson's fitness he doesn't back up test after test.

I think it's pretty obvious England will bring carse Atkinson and potts plus wood as their main cast. The interesting will be what they do spinner wise whether they gamble on Bashir or Ahmed (both very inexperienced) and whether someone is tempted enough to take a risk with Archer (I wouldn't).

Leach is surely the spinner? He is more than fine. Robinson is fine as backup and if all those quicks are fit in a year I might be a chance with Margot Robbie

 

[PhatBoy]

Feel like it only made things worse though because that interpretation made it so any bit of grass touching the ball is deemed dropped. Whether that’s between someone’s fingers (as they’re clasped around the ball) or not, seems irrelevant at this point.

That was regarding control, though. Ball touching grass has always been a controversial issue: control of body/putting the ball on the ground during the completion of a catch just created another situation that became an issue and I can recall other catches that raised eyebrows prior to the Starc one but never got ‘investigated’ for whatever reason.

I don’t have an issue with that catch tonight, to me that was out. The one in the test I thought they got right, as far as I was concerned the ball touched the grass and smith never had control of it despite what was a pretty freak effort to try and keep it alive. But it was a different type of problem to the one that’s arisen from the Starc catch.

If you really wanted to you can trace the Starc ‘kind’ of issue back to a catch like Gibbs’ at the World Cup, ie. when is a catch under control? All they determined with Starc’s was that his body was not in control, like Gibbs’ wasn’t, at the time the ball next hit the ground.

It was harsh because he had quite obviously ‘caught’ the ball

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Why even bother checking that?

 

[Cleavy]

RRR is not out of control, but they might have liked to make a bit more inroads.

Edit: boom. Here we go

 

[Cuzz09]

what's with these weird run out checks. miles in half the time. umps no confidence

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[Stig O'Hara]

That’s nearly gone into the Committee Room.

 

[PhatBoy]

England don't trust Robinson's fitness he doesn't back up test after test.

I think it's pretty obvious England will bring carse Atkinson and potts plus wood as their main cast. The interesting will be what they do spinner wise whether they gamble on Bashir or Ahmed (both very inexperienced) and whether someone is tempted enough to take a risk with Archer (I wouldn't).

Robinson ironically would have been a handful on some of the pitches rolled out this summer I think. Much as everyone hates him he’s definitely a skilful bowler but he has to have some help to be effective.

And it’s not like he’s Vernon Philander who might be rendered a little bit toothless if there wasn’t much help, but was accurate enough that the batsmen couldn’t just belt him everywhere. Robinson could probably get belted around a bit if things got too flat like some Australian pitches of years gone by.

They are definitely on a much better track with Atkinson, Carse, Wood if fit and Potts.

They would be mad to pick Woakes unless they get served up an absolute billiard table with rain all around

 

[Cuzz09]

crowd catching decent today

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[Stig O'Hara]

Is it Guthrie that went for 70??

Our new guy is hot on the trail.

 

[010203]

Bit of luck for McSweeney but he and his team will need it.

 

[Coasters7]

That was regarding control, though. Ball touching grass has always been a controversial issue: control of body/putting the ball on the ground during the completion of a catch just created another situation that became an issue and I can recall other catches that raised eyebrows prior to the Starc one but never got ‘investigated’ for whatever reason.

I don’t have an issue with that catch tonight, to me that was out. The one in the test I thought they got right, as far as I was concerned the ball touched the grass and smith never had control of it despite what was a pretty freak effort to try and keep it alive. But it was a different type of problem to the one that’s arisen from the Starc catch.

If you really wanted to you can trace the Starc ‘kind’ of issue back to a catch like Gibbs’ at the World Cup, ie. when is a catch under control? All they determined with Starc’s was that his body was not in control, like Gibbs’ wasn’t, at the time the ball next hit the ground.

It was harsh because he had quite obviously ‘caught’ the ball

Yeah I understand the rule application behind the Starc one, despite not agreeing with the principle, in that scenario at least.

But I feel like that was the turning point where catches got scrutinised more for touching, or being close to, the grass.

Most of the time it’s pretty clear when someone’s fingers are under the ball and I feel like that’s all there should be to it. Did he have his fingers under it initially? And did he keep them there/wrap his hands around the ball?

 

[Cuzz09]

I hope McSweeney bats through, looks classy

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[LukeParkerno1]

Is it Guthrie that went for 70??

Our new guy is hot on the trail.

Lucky Overton is bowling soon

Sorry had to say it mate

 

[Moonwatcher]

McSweeney loves playing the Strikers

 

[LukeParkerno1]

McSweeney loves playing the Strikers

Most batsmen do even Sams fluked his one decent innings of the year

 

[Moonwatcher]

Haskett like a gazelle

 

[PhatBoy]

Yeah I understand the rule application behind the Starc one, despite not agreeing with the principle, in that scenario at least.

But I feel like that was the turning point where catches got scrutinised more for touching, or being close to, the grass.

Most of the time it’s pretty clear when someone’s fingers are under the ball and I feel like that’s all there should be to it. Did he have his fingers under it initially? And did he keep them there/wrap his hands around the ball?

Well in this case he definitely did to me anyway - and that should have been clear I thought to the third umpire.

I get that if you break it down to the nth degree they will find grass under there touching the ball. I feel sorry for the fieldsmen because there is almost no way they can take what is more often than not a perfectly legitimate catch without it being, be the tiniest letter of the law, a ‘non’ catch. They almost have to rewrite the rule to say that if it touches grass on the way in it’s not out, if it touches fingers first, as long as it doesn’t pop out it’s a catch.

 

[Cuzz09]

There's no real stand out this year. It's 2024 AFL season again.

Winner from 5th lol

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[LukeParkerno1]

Get on with it you silly third ump

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Rightio Popey.

Magic Time.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Wood has taken up 10% of the innings.

 

[010203]

Imagine how much time we'd save if the ball had to hit the rope/toblerone for the batting side to be awarded 4.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Wood likes Pope

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Drop catch

 

[V_23]

Why does the person controlling the footage never know what the umpire actually needs to see? Showing 100 other frames but not the one that's actually needed.