Rumour Beams coming on heavy, hot and strong (Beams & picks 41 & 44 for 18, 56, COL's 2019 1st rd)

[Happy_Neale]

Is he thinking straight? Big decision to make. Hope he doesn’t regret it.

Yeah I mean it's a great thought by Beams but honestly it makes me cringe a bit. What value does a premiership medal have to anyone who hasn't won it? All for a good cause which is great and it's his call but just seems a bit strange to me.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Yeah I mean it's a great thought by Beams but honestly it makes me cringe a bit. What value does a premiership medal have to anyone who hasn't won it? All for a good cause which is great and it's his call but just seems a bit strange to me.

Agree but think there would be many Pie fans who would love to have it

 

[jackess]

He might have money issues (as rumoured) but perhaps just a $5k donation would be better

No idea how much the medal will raise though

 

[Hollow Knight]

He might have money issues (as rumoured) but perhaps just a $5k donation would be better

No idea how much the medal will raise though

it’s up to 25k

https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/LotDetails.aspx?smode=0&aid=15069&lid=2112848&pgn=1&pgs=10

 

[briztoon]

Beams probably should have donated some of his art for auction to raise funds for the fire.

While that Essendon bloke with the dreds is up to $95k to shave them off.

 

[Dalions]

Beams probably should have donated some of his art for auction to raise funds for the fire.

While that Essendon bloke with the dreds is up to $95k to shave them off.

Some people have too much money.

 

[jackess]

Beams probably should have donated some of his art for auction to raise funds for the fire.

While that Essendon bloke with the dreds is up to $95k to shave them off.

That's not an auction though, right?

 

[Saucery]

Beams probably should have donated some of his art for auction to raise funds for the fire.

While that Essendon bloke with the dreds is up to $95k to shave them off.

Yeah and that's just from WADA

 

[Dalions]

That's not an auction though, right?

Surely not?

 

[briztoon]

That's not an auction though, right?

No. Didn’t imply it was.

 

[Dylan12]

This isn't directed at Beams directly, more so the Hemsworth's and Kidman's of the world, but I honestly question why people can't just donate without publicizing it and making it about them in order to attract goodwill. The same can be said of a lot of folk who post pictures of themselves on LinkedIn pretty much self promoting themselves as martyr's of sorts.

I know plenty of people and organisations that are donating, raising money, getting their hands dirty etc. without so much as a word of promoting their good deeds to the world. Sadly one of the organisation's I do a lot of work for are one of the worst offenders in one upping their competitors, even if they are raising a lot of money.

In my opinion, it speaks volumes of those that just do the good deeds without needing a skeric of recognition or acknowledgement unlike many others.

 

[Haso]

This isn't directed at Beams directly, more so the Hemsworth's and Kidman's of the world, but I honestly question why people can't just donate without publicizing it and making it about them in order to attract goodwill. The same can be said of a lot of folk who post pictures of themselves on LinkedIn pretty much self promoting themselves as martyr's of sorts.

I know plenty of people and organisations that are donating, raising money, getting their hands dirty etc. without so much as a word of promoting their good deeds to the world. Sadly one of the organisation's I do a lot of work for are one of the worst offenders in one upping their competitors, even if they are raising a lot of money.

In my opinion, it speaks volumes of those that just do the good deeds without needing a skeric of recognition or acknowledgement unlike many others.

I feel that sentiment.

Devil's advocate though, publicising does have the added benefit of encouraging others who can afford it to donate as well. There is something to be said for the social contract and social accountability.

I'm not saying it's purely one over the other, but it's not a bad thing, really.

 

[Nunez]

I feel that sentiment.

Devil's advocate though, publicising does have the added benefit of encouraging others who can afford it to donate as well. There is something to be said for the social contract and social accountability.

I'm not saying it's purely one over the other, but it's not a bad thing, really.

100% agree. Keeping up with the Jones' as the old sales saying goes. If at least one other person with money jumps on because of them, then it's well worth it.

 

[Caiphus]

Individual philanthropic efforts and charity have a while host of counter-intuitive flow-on issues. There's learned helplessness in beneficiaries, compassion fatigue in donors, a few sexy causes hovering up disproportionate amount of resources when the effectiveness per dollar has dropped off a cliff cos marketing. Big heavily promoted donations from celebrities can be a double edged sword in that it either inspired other people to juno on board but could also scare away throngs of smaller doners because they feel like they went have any impact.

A lot of celebrities are happy to give anonymously and its the charity that will often give them the all clear on whether it aligns with their strategy or not for the don't to do a bit of self-promotion.

 

[braddsey]

Yeah I mean it's a great thought by Beams but honestly it makes me cringe a bit. What value does a premiership medal have to anyone who hasn't won it? All for a good cause which is great and it's his call but just seems a bit strange to me.

There's a massive market in sporting memorabilia... there's always value in something of sporting history.
Beams get's to keep what no one else can buy - the the memory and pride of the achievement of being part of a Grand Final winning AFL team.

 

[Happy_Neale]

There's a massive market in sporting memorabilia... there's always value in something of sporting history.
Beams get's to keep what no one else can buy - the the memory and pride of the achievement of being part of a Grand Final winning AFL team.

I was talking more sentimental value, a medal is something you should look back on and reflect on when all is said and done in my view.

 

[iBeng]

Turns out Collingwood bought the medal...I assume Eddy will make sure it goes back to him and the money gets donated correctly.

 

[jackess]

Turns out Collingwood bought the medal...I assume Eddy will make sure it goes back to him and the money gets donated correctly.

Can't help but be skeptical of an arrangement

 

[Happy_Neale]

Turns out Collingwood bought the medal...I assume Eddy will make sure it goes back to him and the money gets donated correctly.

Where did you see this

 

[iBeng]

Where did you see this

On his Instagram, I expect they'd display it at the club until sometime in the future...

 

[Gadzorks]

I’m a natural born cynic - Gotta wonder if the pies club buying the medal was tabled prior to the auction. And I will not be surprised if the club hands it back to him at some stage.

and I’m little meh about the ads for his clothing and paintings. A previous article said he’d donate 5% from the sale his paintings. Donating anything is wonderful and to be commended.

But the two combined does leave me with the feeling the whole thing has been stage managed so he can get a return on donation.

 

[spotthedog1]

This isn't directed at Beams directly, more so the Hemsworth's and Kidman's of the world, but I honestly question why people can't just donate without publicizing it and making it about them in order to attract goodwill. The same can be said of a lot of folk who post pictures of themselves on LinkedIn pretty much self promoting themselves as martyr's of sorts.

I know plenty of people and organisations that are donating, raising money, getting their hands dirty etc. without so much as a word of promoting their good deeds to the world. Sadly one of the organisation's I do a lot of work for are one of the worst offenders in one upping their competitors, even if they are raising a lot of money.

In my opinion, it speaks volumes of those that just do the good deeds without needing a skeric of recognition or acknowledgement unlike many others.

Agree with you about the ridiculous celebrities paying their funds as a PR exercise. Liam Hemsworth's video announcing his $1m donation popped up on my FB feed and I thought it was the most self-indulgent, prattish thing ever. Not to mention that he earned ~$70m last year, so his $1m is the equivalent of someone on $70k donating $1k (and that's ignoring that someone on $70k probably needs more of theirs for necessities). It's good, but it's hardly his last few dollars.

Organisations - if it's non-partisan, I don't mind as much. Their objective is to make shareholders money. So if there's a marketing purpose, fair enough. If there's no marketing purpose, that's just them deciding how their shareholders should donate.

However, organisations getting involved in partisan/political debates I have a real issue with, and think they should not be completely banned. If it's not a marketing purpose, or it's a divisive issue - they're making decisions on their shareholder's opinions, and not on their professional business. It's misuse of shareholder funds.

Of course, that won't change, because the political parties like their corporate donations. Even though a lot of them give to both sides just to cover their bases.

 

[Dalions]

Liam Hemsworth's video announcing his $1m donation popped up on my FB feed and I thought it was the most self-indulgent, prattish thing ever. Not to mention that he earned ~$70m last year, so his $1m is the equivalent of someone on $70k donating $1k

I can’t afford a thousand dollar donation and I earn more than 70k a year.
Personally I think a $1m donation, no matter how much you earn is unbelievable.
But, that might just be me?
PR exercise or not, Good on him, I say.

 

[Ironmonger]

I can’t afford a thousand dollar donation and I earn more than 70k a year.
Personally I think a $1m donation, no matter how much you earn is unbelievable.
But, that might just be me?
PR exercise or not, Good on him, I say.

Yeah, I'm all in favour of self-indulgent donations to charity. I don't much care about why someone does something good, as long as they do it.

There's also a certain expectation of celebrities that they'll be generous with their money. Potentially they get criticised for not donating.

 

[Dalions]

Yeah, I'm all in favour of self-indulgent donations to charity. I don't much care about why someone does something good, as long as they do it.

There's also a certain expectation of celebrities that they'll be generous with their money. Potentially they get criticised for not donating.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!