Beau Waters bump

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Goosecat

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Ok I'm not going to get into the whole did he actually make contact with the head or did he get the shoulder argument. The slow mo video at the tribunal will sort that out.

I just wonder where the next natural step will be regarding clubs directions around bumping/shepherding.

The game/coaches/clubs continue to move forward and adapt to all new rule changes and with all the difficulties surrounding bumping and shepherding, including directions to put it away. How long do think it will be before the bio-mechanics experts start working on new tactics?

I reckon at the moment its all about height. You accidently go high you pay the price, fair enough. So if I'm involved as a coach lets teach all my players to stop pulling the arm in and jumping into and up on the opposite player as is natural.

Instead I'd want all my players to drop the shoulder, go low with the point of the shoulder and aim directly at the celiac (solar) plexus.

It has a two fold benefit. You dont get busted for going high. You hit a soft point of impact and you take the opposition out for god knows how long from the game.

Using Waters bump as an example. If he'd driven straight in low,at the solar plex instead of the traditional method he used, he'd be safe, the opposition would be completely f##cked and the AFL powers at be would be looking at trying to make another new rule up to stop the carnage.

The way the game is going I can see it ending only one way. Bumping anyone who doesn't have the ball will eventually be banned. Of course this will mean more congestion as teams wont be able to "clear" ball carriers, and so the merry go round continues.

It all harbours back to the old "leave the game alone". The professionalism and money was always going to change and speed the game up. It never needed constant rule changes that new individuals and countries couldn't comprehend or define, stopping the game progressing around the globe.

Leave it alone!!
 
Front on bumps are dangerous because the potential is to hit someone legally to begin with and for the contact to end high. You can't control how the bodies react after the initial impact and when you go front on the responsibility is totally on you to not make high contact.

But, he was reported for charging, not for high contact. If they believe you make unnecessary force, even in a fair bump or tackle, then you can be reported.

I think the AFL doesn't mind players bumping others, but if you are running flat chat with the intention to take someone out then there is the potential to do significant damage. That is what the AFL is afraid of because it raises health and safety issues as the employer of all the players.
 
Bump was ok except that he jumped but did not get the head flush.

The problem with Waters is he likes taking the cheap ones that don't impact on the game. This was shown that when he had to go for a tough front on tackle about 5 minutes later he chickened out and when another bump, missed and North strolled through for an easy goal.

He is not tough at all... shirt fronts when the opp is unaware are OK by the rules if with in 5 and not high. But what is tough is taking on front on tough tackles.... Waters is about a 2 out of 10 for toughness.
 

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Waters bump looked like a copybook old fashioned hip and shoulder that would have been applauded a few years ago. These days it gets examined to the nth degree with video replays. The fact the North player went off injured makes it look worse and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a few weeks for it.

Pretty much means the bump is just about a no go zone now, even if you execute it perfectly you're still a chance of getting rubbed out. A real shame imo as a good old fashioned hip and shoulder is a great part of the game.
 
He is not tough at all... shirt fronts when the opp is unaware are OK by the rules if with in 5 and not high. But what is tough is taking on front on tough tackles.... Waters is about a 2 out of 10 for toughness.

yeh, nah

backing in front of leading forwards is courage, Beau does this weekly
 
Only saw it live at the game plus a few replays on the big screen, but I didn't see high contact. However it appears that the contact doesn't need to be high for it to be reportable these days, it just has to look scary to the umpires.
 
Will get weeks... :( I haven't seen the incident though so who am I to comment.

To that Spook dude who says Waters is 2/10 for toughness either has NFI or is just pissed off.
 
Waters bump looked like a copybook old fashioned hip and shoulder that would have been applauded a few years ago. These days it gets examined to the nth degree with video replays. The fact the North player went off injured makes it look worse and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a few weeks for it.

Pretty much means the bump is just about a no go zone now, even if you execute it perfectly you're still a chance of getting rubbed out. A real shame imo as a good old fashioned hip and shoulder is a great part of the game.

He came back on, i think he had a saw jaw or something and had a bit of concussion so sat out a quarter or so but came back in the second half and had an impact until Edwards finished the job and KOed him.

I love hip and shoulders but at the pace of todays game it becomes dangerous. Was awesome seeing Pickett put the fear of god into players prancing around but if he moved at the speed players do today he would have hospitalised a dozen players.
 
To that Spook dude who says Waters is 2/10 for toughness either has NFI or is just pissed off.

Nah he's still bitter from when Waters f***ed Buddy Franklin up a few years ago, when buddy gave out a cheap shot to cuz.
 
Pathetic that the Water's hit would have just been a solid shepherd and play on a few years ago, now there's a chance he could actually get weeks for it. ****ing soft as butter. And if he is given weeks I expect our club to just bend over and take it from the AFL like they usually do.
 
If there was no high contact he shouldn't get suspended but he will miss a lot of games if continues to bump, the game moves so fast, it would be near on impossible to bump everyone with force flawlessly.
 

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yeh, nah

backing in front of leading forwards is courage, Beau does this weekly

I remember once, yes the same once that you will quote.. vs Brisbane... be happy for you to give other examples.

How did his tackle go hey... to scared to put his arms out and take it front on.....

Waters = pretender for real toughness but great a picking of cheap ones
 
I remember once, yes the same once that you will quote.. vs Brisbane... be happy for you to give other examples.

How did his tackle go hey... to scared to put his arms out and take it front on.....

Waters = pretender for real toughness but great a picking of cheap ones

100% correct.

beau footsteps waters is a sniper & a chicken
he is a good player (rare in wc i know) & was good in dt 4 me, but he is a softc%$k!
 
I remember once, yes the same once that you will quote.. vs Brisbane... be happy for you to give other examples.

How did his tackle go hey... to scared to put his arms out and take it front on.....

Waters = pretender for real toughness but great a picking of cheap ones

campbell brown says hi.
 
As was said, reported for charging which is a different beast.

I think what is key here is that, as said he didn't hit the head.

From memory, he hit Adams mostly on a shoulder which was heavily strapped and I think Patch had recoed a while back. This obviously hurt Adams and contributed to the way he fell, which included knocking his head on the ground.

As they say it looked bad.

People are admiring Waters for his tough play.

For mine, the tougher was Patch to come back on, be an important contributor only to get another severe whack.

Tough as old boots the kid. Scott loves him.
 
love Waters great player! takes hangers and lays big *** off bumps, that bump yesterday was great, like a great one he put on Salopek in the QF on 07
 

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