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Pickett bump on Cripps
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1 match.
About what was expected take it and run.
About what was expected take it and run.
Should be 2, but I thought it be 1 as well. I'll be surprised if they challenge it.
2 was never going to stick though, Maybe what it deserved but the tribunal would have downgraded it pretty quickly so don't think you would bother with the guidelines
So a player gets knocked out and the culprit gets 0 games? Then someone cops a shirt front with no damage and gets rubbed out? Makes sense, gee I wonder who the AFL want to win the flag.
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1 match is fair
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Dumb to risk it, even though it was almost perfectly executed. A week is fair.
There is a huge difference between Rhyan Mansell careless (3 weeks) and Kosi Pickett careless (1 week). This is where the AFL needs a classification between careless and intentional. This would fall firmly in the reckless category.
Yes, I understand the outcomes were different but I don't think Mansell's careless KO of Aish deserves more than Pickett's reckless shoulder charge into Cripps' head.
Yes, I understand the outcomes were different but I don't think Mansell's careless KO of Aish deserves more than Pickett's reckless shoulder charge into Cripps' head.
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I said its one or 2 defending on how bad the bloody nose was.
Given Carlton dont want the focus on their concussion protocols it probably saved Kosi a week.
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Cannot understand how this is graded as careless. I think we need more clarification on how they are deciding between intentional and careless.
Agreed - intentional goes to, well, intent where as careless is an assessment of execution.
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If this is a genuine post as opposed to a troll then you need to think about the target of the action. One targets the ball the other targets the player.
The tribunal system has been consistent this year that when you target the ball then then they take a different approach to subsequent events.
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I agree. They say "if you choose to jump/bump..." then decide that choice wasnt intentional.
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Essentially their take on intentional is not that you’ve done something on purpose, but specifically that you’ve deliberately committed a suspendable act.
That’s why a bump is almost never intentional to the mro. You CAN bump legally, it’s the execution that makes it a suspension.
It’s the punches away from the ball that’ll get your intentional gradings (and even then they don’t always pull the trigger)
That’s why a bump is almost never intentional to the mro. You CAN bump legally, it’s the execution that makes it a suspension.
It’s the punches away from the ball that’ll get your intentional gradings (and even then they don’t always pull the trigger)
1 match is what it deserved under the guidelines.
But it's not really fair.
The AFL pays lip service to head high injuries.
Jack Martin punches a player in the jaw, 1 week.
Pickett leaves the ground, collects Cripps high, breaks his nose, a week.
When are the AFL going to get serious?
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Don't expect to see a repeat of that scenario from next season onwards.
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But I heard he took Cripps flowers and some wine?
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This is a superb explanation, and seems to be exactly how the AFL see it, not withstanding how counter-intuitive it might be to us as supporters.
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The big issues the AFL has are that it uses outcome to determine the length of suspension, and it refuses to introduce a send off rule.
However no 2 players are the same when it comes to susceptibility to injury / concussion. Some players have cement heads (eg Cal Ward) and can take a baseball bat to the head and not flinch, whereas others get knocked out by minor contact to their head.
Intent should be the overarching determinate for length of suspension. If you a launching your body like a missile at the head of opponents, and you make contact, the suspension should start at 3 weeks and rise exponentially as severity increases. AND the player should be disqualified from the game. The AFL is the only major competition in the world without a send off rule which beggars belief for such a violent sport.
Pickett should have got 3 weeks for his assault of Smith. Being a recidivist, he should get an extra week for his attack on Cripps. he should have been ejected from both games.
That is the only way the AFL will stamp out these acts that put players at risk of developing CTE later in life.
However no 2 players are the same when it comes to susceptibility to injury / concussion. Some players have cement heads (eg Cal Ward) and can take a baseball bat to the head and not flinch, whereas others get knocked out by minor contact to their head.
Intent should be the overarching determinate for length of suspension. If you a launching your body like a missile at the head of opponents, and you make contact, the suspension should start at 3 weeks and rise exponentially as severity increases. AND the player should be disqualified from the game. The AFL is the only major competition in the world without a send off rule which beggars belief for such a violent sport.
Pickett should have got 3 weeks for his assault of Smith. Being a recidivist, he should get an extra week for his attack on Cripps. he should have been ejected from both games.
That is the only way the AFL will stamp out these acts that put players at risk of developing CTE later in life.
Good to see you’ve got over the Demon’s bowing out Fitzey. Expecting you’ll now get behind the Pies for the duration.
Counting on you buddy.
