Best Medium Pace Bowler Of All Time?

[Richard Pryor]

on the ch9 tv coverage, they used to 'group' bowlers as medium, medium fast, fast medium, fast.

Always found it confusing medium fast is slower than fast medium. To me it sounds like medium fast is in the middle range of fast, and fast medium the upper range of medium, so would be opposite I my mind.

 

[The hands of stone]

McGrath was quicker in his younger days wasn't he? I'm told he could get high 130s when early in a spell.

Early he could clock around 140 , average more mid 130s i think
His 130kph just felt quicker facing it than others quicker on the gun

 

[SG34]

Always found it confusing medium fast is slower than fast medium. To me it sounds like medium fast is in the middle range of fast, and fast medium the upper range of medium, so would be opposite I my mind.

I think they are used interchangeably. You are right about the convention of having the describing adjective before the noun- so fast is a kind of medium. But then again it’s a specific nomenclature, a world of its own.

I asked ChatGPT this,

In cricket parlance, is a bowler described as medium-fast, faster than a bowler described as fast-medium?

ChatGPT says,
In cricket parlance, a bowler described as medium-fast is generally considered to bowl at a slightly faster pace than a bowler described as fast-medium.

- Medium-fast bowlers typically bowl at speeds between 130-145 km/h (80-90 mph), which is faster than fast-medium bowlers, who usually bowl in the range of 120-130 km/h (75-80 mph).

So, medium-fast would be considered the faster of the two terms.

 

[big_e]

I think they are used interchangeably. You are right about the convention of having the describing adjective before the noun- so fast is a kind of medium. But then again it’s a specific nomenclature, a world of its own.

I asked ChatGPT this,

In cricket parlance, is a bowler described as medium-fast, faster than a bowler described as fast-medium?

ChatGPT says,
In cricket parlance, a bowler described as medium-fast is generally considered to bowl at a slightly faster pace than a bowler described as fast-medium.

- Medium-fast bowlers typically bowl at speeds between 130-145 km/h (80-90 mph), which is faster than fast-medium bowlers, who usually bowl in the range of 120-130 km/h (75-80 mph).

So, medium-fast would be considered the faster of the two terms.

ChatGPT is the most unreliable tool in the world and I wonder why people use it.

 

[Cleavy]

I think they are used interchangeably. You are right about the convention of having the describing adjective before the noun- so fast is a kind of medium. But then again it’s a specific nomenclature, a world of its own.

I asked ChatGPT this,

In cricket parlance, is a bowler described as medium-fast, faster than a bowler described as fast-medium?

ChatGPT says,
In cricket parlance, a bowler described as medium-fast is generally considered to bowl at a slightly faster pace than a bowler described as fast-medium.

- Medium-fast bowlers typically bowl at speeds between 130-145 km/h (80-90 mph), which is faster than fast-medium bowlers, who usually bowl in the range of 120-130 km/h (75-80 mph).

So, medium-fast would be considered the faster of the two terms.

not knocking you, SG34, but this answer is bullcrap to me.

 

[SG34]

not knocking you, SG34, but this answer is bullcrap to me.

No worries. ChatGPT is fun.
But what IS the truth of the matter.
Perhaps there is no truth as such.

This says the opposite of what ChatGPt says, https://crickomaniablog.wordpress.c...ide-to-different-types-of-bowling-in-cricket/
But I disagree with the examples of bowlers they use for their categories.

Anyway, key point, it puts fast-medium as above medium-fast. 131-141 Moreover, it says the majority of pace bowlers are in this category.

I think it is interesting how the language has evolved and come to mean different things to different people.
I don’t know if there are any such facts out there to be honest.

I don’t think they even used these terms before the 1970s? No idea.

I have even heard of slow-medium and I think it was used to describe Kiwi batters who bowled a bit of medium.

I wonder what Keith Grieg was? Or Doug Walters?

Well, to me the ChatGPt answer makes perfect sense to me, although it doesn’t align with the way I’ve heard it used in Australia sometimes.

 

[Cleavy]

I think we can all agree that David Boon's bowling was definitely "right arm slow"