Best Youth in the league - best teams in 3-5 years

[HairyO]

The rest of


Sows pigs ear
Hawks will fall back to pack

I trust all hawks fans will stick fat with club during its forthcoming lean years

Will you stand by Scott when you fail to make the finals? Or will he be the first coach fired?

 

[Gavin Excell]

Will you stand by Scott when you fail to make the finals? Or will he be the first coach fired?

Always behind club thick and thin

 

[Seedsfan]

Giants -daylight- WBD, & Collingwood. Only worry for dogs and pies imo are Key defenders. Dogs addressed that last year getting Collins while the pies will be relying on BReid to remain fit.

Watch out for Marsh, he is coming in to his third year now and has shown a lot in the VFL.

 

[Seedsfan]

I rate Collingwood very highly but of course I would. Behind them I think Melbourne shape to be a great side in a few years. Gawn, Hogan, Weidamen and McDonald. They will have a great spine, Petracca Brayshaw Viney Oliver will lead a dominant midfield

 

[Colonial]

Because half of your first rounders are busts/moved to other clubs or yet to prove themselves.

Even if they are proven I don't think you would have got best player/most proven out of any of the last 4 drafts to have played AFL level (2011 - 2014).

The very nature of madly grabbing every kid in the country is that a lot will fail.

And in 2 or 3 more years how do you afford to keep the good ones, unless the AFL gifts more concessions?

Do you guys have the lotto numbers to?

 

[HairyO]

Do you guys have the lotto numbers to?

I would say GWS and GCS need to make serious inroads in finals in the next 2 years or else its basically game over with only mercenaries wanting to go there for the $$$.

What do you think will ensure players stay, if not finals success or money?

 

[Pessimistic]

Just listening to jono brown and he says 'x does x better than anyone in the competition' quite a lot

 

[Colonial]

I would say GWS and GCS need to make serious inroads in finals in the next 2 years or else its basically game over with only mercenaries wanting to go there for the $$$.

What do you think will ensure players stay, if not finals success or money?

No doubt if we are at the bottom players will leave. The same for any club.

But i dont believe we will be at the bottom.

 

[Pessimistic]

The rest of


Sows pigs ear
Hawks will fall back to pack

I trust all hawks fans will stick fat with club during its forthcoming lean years

Pretty happy with the youngsters.

So mitch and hodge do retire, what will we do with all that cap space ?

 

[Trav 20]

Would Watts have been a star if (sic) at a better club?

You have limited football knowledge to even ask this.

No, he wouldn't have been. He would have been a far better player in Hawthorn's program, but no star. That said, your idea of a "star" may differ from mine.

 

[BPikkers]

Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Roughhead, Gibson, Rioli make a lot of ordinary players look better than what they are.

Once the top 3 retire, the Hawks next level will be found out.

 

[sr36]

Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Roughhead, Gibson, Rioli make a lot of ordinary players look better than what they are.

Once the top 3 retire, the Hawks next level will be found out.

You forgot Burgoyne.

The big thing for the Hawks is whether or not they can find an engine room to replace Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis.

 

[Pessimistic]

The big thing is those guys are in ball ups a significant amount less than the prime movers in other teams

 

[falcons2]

Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Roughhead, Gibson, Rioli make a lot of ordinary players look better than what they are.

Once the top 3 retire, the Hawks next level will be found out.

Maybe its the other 16 who make these guys look good!
Once the top 3 retire, the ???? next level will be found out. True of every team in every sport that ever took to a field.

 

[sr36]

Maybe its the other 16 who make these guys look good!
Once the top 3 retire, the ???? next level will be found out. True of every team in every sport that ever took to a field.

Very true. What holds you guys in good stead is that your coach is a legend.

 

[matey]

So the thread is about best youth and who will be the best in 3-5 years but so much focus on the Hawks experienced players departing the club?

Anyway 3 years ago GWS and Gold Coast had the best youth and how are they going today? I still doubt either will win a premiership in the next two years! Youth is only one part of the jig saw puzzle that should not represent all the eggs in your clubs basket.

Getting back on the topic in terms of our recent youth I beleive Howe will be a quality 200 game player he is a very smart footballer and I beleive we did well with Lovell, Dimma and Burton in last years draft. Something that I have noticed with our recent recruiting is the drafting of elite runners. Clarko is a lot smarter than most coaches, he is always a couple of steps ahead. Just noticing that the Hawks have been using their earlier picks on players that have a great combination of speed and endurance and not forgetting that they can also kick of course! In the last draft Lovell was top 10 in the beep test and Hardwick's endurance well above average! Then there is Smith, Hill and Hartung (Hartung has the beep test record and Hill is 2nd). Kind of hoping with less interchange Hawks midfield will be running other mid fields off there feet for years to come. Time will tell.

As a coach Clarko is still relatively young!!!!!!

 

[Pessimistic]

At least we waited eight pages to make it all about hawthorn

 

[footyfan1978]

He is not really that young. New to the game, yes, but 25 years old.
He looks ok though. I remember when Paul Salmon began he started as a key forward and virtually no key defenders were tall enough to stop him. Mason Cox has that advantage too. Just a matter of whether he can kick enough goals to make the experiment all worth whole.
It seems like he has the work ethic so would not surprise me if he makes it. Would not expect him to take the league by storm like Salmon did early in his career as a forward but it should prove interesting to watch how key defenders cope with his size.

30 months later....Tiggy team chokes in prelim final with Rance powerless to stop the dominance in the air.
Well done Mason. Silenced your critics with hard work in last three years.

 

[00Stinger]

so it is obvious the best youth was Collingwood and Melbourne

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[Boris the Contradiction]

so it is obvious the best youth was Collingwood and Melbourne

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GWS as well. They have a mega talented list that mob.

 

[footyfan1978]

He is not really that young. New to the game, yes, but 25 years old.
He looks ok though. I remember when Paul Salmon began he started as a key forward and virtually no key defenders were tall enough to stop him. Mason Cox has that advantage too. Just a matter of whether he can kick enough goals to make the experiment all worth whole.
Would not expect him to take the league by storm like Salmon did early in his career as a forward but it should prove interesting to watch how key defenders cope with his size.

Salmon back when he was 18 and too tall for most key defenders of the time.
It is what I saw similar in Mason Cox for Pies to persist with.