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Carbine Chaos said:
I took it more as there still bring a spark/something burning between them.

I’m just going to pretend that Kim regresses and concocts a Prison Break style con job to bust him out of the clink. I can dream, right?
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Yep

Secretly smuggles in a file in his ice cream
 
Yep, it ended near perfectly. No complaints, it was never going to go out the same way Breaking Bad did with action, drama and violence and those that wished for it did not understand the entire point of the series (sorry not sorry). Those final two scenes - masterpiece.

In time people will rate this better than Breaking Bad - just quality from start to finish as they took the time to flesh out the main characters. The cinematography in particular was incredible throughout. Rhea Seehorn must surely win an Emmy.

I will miss it - it has been an enjoyable ride and I never thought I'd be entranced by a slow burn drama about the sleazy lawyer from Breaking Bad.
 
Ah man...loved it.

Like I think these final episodes, not just being the conclusion of BCS but the entire 15-year ABQ story and Jimmy being the one that has to reckon with all of it, is masterful.

I'm not sure what else could have happened that would have felt more satisfying, more earned and more emotionally effective. Shoutout to Oakley whose facial expressions and plea to be excused from the case gave the episode some hilarious levity.

The darker, more depraved ending where Saul 'wins' by playing the DA, gets out within 7 years and burns any chance of a rekindling with Kim, would probably have appeased the indifferent, don't think it'd have been any more honest however.

Give Odenkirk his flowers. I don't know if we'll get ever get another show that will be as deeply character focused (specifically original characters) and as collectively watched as BCS, let alone good. What a ****ing treat.
 

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Seeds said:
scene with walt and jimmy just shows that walt was a far more interesting and dynamic character. Jimmy was a lot more simple.
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This kinda sums up why your takes on this series have come across as a little thick. That scene was Walter at his most unbearable. Turning a non-existent issue into an actual one, and then turning the dial on his FIGJAM complex.

The most stinging criticism of 'Felina' (which is still a good finale) was that Walt not only went out on his own terms, but did so as somewhat of a hero which felt undeserved. His characterisation in Saul Gone, coupled with the fact that's it's the last time we'll ever see that character, almost seems like it was there to act as a bit of a retrospective foil to the hero-worshipping some people have with that character.
 
This ending will be a letdown for some, calm satisfaction for most and for a select few, an unreal sense of dazzling acceptance and joy.

We are not watching a show with a last second twist of fate, no insane reveal we never saw coming. It was as close to reality as you could get.

Maybe for some this is too unrelatable but as someone who has struggled with addiction this show just hits hard. Addiction hits many in different ways - drug, alcohol and gambling are just some. Some people are addicted to work and drive their partners away, some can't stop having affairs, there's so many forms that pull their communities apart.

This is a story of an addict, yes we could have seen Saul get toasted by Carol Burnett a mile away but that's actual life - people who observe addicts often see the end of their actions months before the participant does.

Saul couldn't stop himself despite a temporary lay-off and got caught. This whole episode was about regret and the consequences of long-term actions. All he had left was his love and connection with Kim, and in that way this show is better than BB in parts. Walt was the centre of the BB universe and Skylar was a non-entity. Kim was the only pure thing in Jimmy's life.

The only negative I'd say is the slight unbelievability that Jimmy even redeemed himself in front of the court. Every one of his actions indicated he didn't care, he even forced Marie Schrader into an uncomfortable face to face to enable discussions of settlement.

All in all this isn't the greatest show of all time, but it's definitely in the conversation for the Top 10 and on repeat viewings that may increase over time.
 
As a rule I’m not a fan of sequels/prequels….they tend to be let downs.

But this series went against that and stacks up with BB.

Didn’t expect Marie to show up late.

Now it’s back to Westeros with the incestrial blondes and dragons. #fireandblood
 
Gasometer said:
I am tipping that Jimmy will end up in jail. He will place a large poster on his wall of Kim Kardashian. Then one morning the guards find his cell empty. The warden will come in and then punch a hole in Kim’s face and a tunnel will be revealed
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….the spin off series is here Vince

Shawshank Gene
 
Bob Odenkirk:

Hooray! [Laughs] My first thought was: “Hooray, you’ve given him all the feeling and intelligence that he’s had this whole time. And he’s embodying who he is — really the best part of himself is coming out finally. I’ve always felt he was capable of the choice he makes at the end to acknowledge his own part in this whole thing. And that he’s not a victim. I love that he does it, and he does it because he loves Kim, and he does it because he knows that in the long run, it’s the thing that’s going to show her that he was always a really good guy. And not a broken snake. [Laughs]
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Warsaw said:
This kinda sums up why your takes on this series have come across as a little thick. That scene was Walter at his most unbearable. Turning a non-existent issue into an actual one, and then turning the dial on his FIGJAM complex.

The most stinging criticism of 'Felina' (which is still a good finale) was that Walt not only went out on his own terms, but did so as somewhat of a hero which felt undeserved. His characterisation in Saul Gone, coupled with the fact that's it's the last time we'll ever see that character, almost seems like it was there to act as a bit of a retrospective foil to the hero-worshipping some people have with that character.
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The whole conclusion to the show is jimmy had little conscience and no regrets but then he ends up finding a conscience for kim. It has the simplicity and depth of a disney movie. Its so shallow. BB isnt exactly deep either. But it was a plot driven show with more colourful characters.

Character development is not Gilligans strength and the fact he didnt have much of a plot for this show and tried to make character development the focus was the shows downfall cos he doesnt put together deep characters.

what gilligan could do extremely well was great individual character scenes with emotional intensity (And great cinematography he had that in spades). But dont confuse that with character depth and complexity. It was extremely lacking.
 
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StingBitten said:
This ending will be a letdown for some, calm satisfaction for most and for a select few, an unreal sense of dazzling acceptance and joy.

We are not watching a show with a last second twist of fate, no insane reveal we never saw coming. It was as close to reality as you could get.

Maybe for some this is too unrelatable but as someone who has struggled with addiction this show just hits hard. Addiction hits many in different ways - drug, alcohol and gambling are just some. Some people are addicted to work and drive their partners away, some can't stop having affairs, there's so many forms that pull their communities apart.

This is a story of an addict, yes we could have seen Saul get toasted by Carol Burnett a mile away but that's actual life - people who observe addicts often see the end of their actions months before the participant does.

Saul couldn't stop himself despite a temporary lay-off and got caught. This whole episode was about regret and the consequences of long-term actions. All he had left was his love and connection with Kim, and in that way this show is better than BB in parts. Walt was the centre of the BB universe and Skylar was a non-entity. Kim was the only pure thing in Jimmy's life.

The only negative I'd say is the slight unbelievability that Jimmy even redeemed himself in front of the court. Every one of his actions indicated he didn't care, he even forced Marie Schrader into an uncomfortable face to face to enable discussions of settlement.

All in all this isn't the greatest show of all time, but it's definitely in the conversation for the Top 10 and on repeat viewings that may increase over time.
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Great analysis.

RE: "slight unbelievability that Jimmy even redeemed himself in front of the court"

His plan was to use the "I did it under duress" card and take the 7 in an easy prison, until he found out that Kim had confessed to Cheryl about what happened to Howard. He then admitted to it all, copped the 80+, to keep Kim in his life and prevent a civil suit against her.

He took 80 as Jimmy instead of 7 as Saul.
 
Lots to say.

The writers made a choice to keep this last half season as a winding down deflation. Compare BB's frenzied plot escalations.

Part of me had that itch for an Ozymandias style episode that needed scratching. And like an itch, on the surface maybe I left a bit unsatisfied.

But they went the other way, the more challenging way, and they did it really really well, leaving me satisfied on the inside. I think this season will be talked about for some time.

BB the better show for me, but BCS more consistent. (BB had some dud episodes early on like Skylar's boss stuff, etc). BCS probably a deeper more thoughtful piece, BB more in your face.

This very last episode was themed perfectly. I loved the scenes with Mike and Chuck, so beautiful. And geez even in one scene, the commanding presence of Cranston was something to behold.
 
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kickazz said:
Lots to say.

The writers made a choice to keep this last half season as a winding down deflation. Compare BB's frenzied plot escalations.

Part of me had that itch for an Ozymandias style episode that needed scratching. And like an itch, on the surface maybe I left a bit unsatisfied.

But they went the other way, the more challenging way, and they did it really really well, leaving me satisfied on the inside. I think this season will be talked about for some time.

BB the better show for me, but BCS more consistent. (BB had some dud episodes early on like Skylar's boss stuff, etc). BCS probably a deeper more thoughtful piece, BB more in your face.

This very last episode was themed perfectly. I loved the scenes with Mike and Chuck, so beautiful. And geez even in one scene, the commanding presence of Cranston was something to behold.
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That final scene with Walt felt like a final "f*** you" to those that somehow still make excuses for Walt. Cranston did well to remind us how much of a FIGJAM he truly was. I loved the thread of going back in time/regret that tied the flashbacks together - it justified bringing Mike, Chuck and Walt back together for the finale.
 
Forward Press said:
That final scene with Walt felt like a final "f*** you" to those that somehow still make excuses for Walt. Cranston did well to remind us how much of a FIGJAM he truly was. I loved the thread of going back in time/regret that tied the flashbacks together - it justified bringing Mike, Chuck and Walt back together for the finale.
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Yep thought it was perfectly done.
 
Functional rather than amazing finale I thought. Ticked all the boxes that it needed to, but didn't quite reach the heights of many episodes from this season for mine. Not that there's any shame in that, some of the best TV I've ever seen in season 6.

Love that Kim and Jimmy got to share one last cigarette. The burning tip of the cig in colour with the rest of the frame remaining black and white.. one little ember or 'spark' of what they once were.

End of an era, sure going to miss the cinematography these shows brought. Nothing else like it.

3rd Grade Maggy said:
I'm sure some clever campaigner on Reddit will clip it, but apart from that final shot of them in light and shade sharing a smoke being amazing standalone cinematography, isn't it almost a mirror of one of the first shots of them together from s1?
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They shared many a cig in that way and framing over the journey.
 
FRUMPY said:
Why was hanks wife involved apart from a BB cameo? Didn't make any sense.

Saul didn't kill her husband or the other cop so there would be no reason for them to be there and so involved.

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Only one left alive that she could confront, which she obviously wanted to do.
 
james Dean said:
The chanting on the bus was so bad though.
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Yeah kinda agree, not sure it fit that well.

But it was just a quick shorthand method to let you know Saul would have at least some standing in jail, be relatively ok and not get shivved in showers or something, so I can let it slide.
 
pjcrows said:
His plan was to use the "I did it under duress" card and take the 7 in an easy prison, until he found out that Kim had confessed to Cheryl about what happened to Howard. He then admitted to it all, copped the 80+, to keep Kim in his life and prevent a civil suit against her.
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This was one part I didn't quite get - Jimmy's admission in court would save Kim from any criminal consequences (which weren't even a certainty to happen anyway) but it would do nothing to prevent any civil suit from Howard's wife would it?

Maybe I missed something?
 

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