Analysis Beveridge - where to from here?

[Next Waiting]

8 and 8 with a team in form heading into the last few rounds and a relatively fit list.

It's almost as if he knows what he is doing and how to time a run. But nah, that can't be right.

 

[PuzzledfromParkville]

The threat will be the saints, although I would suggest he resigns this year.

Let’s hope the great man stays

 

[Hard Ball Get]

The threat will be the saints, although I would suggest he resigns this year.

Let’s hope the great man stays

Even better would be if he re-signs!!

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

8 and 8 with a team in form heading into the last few rounds and a relatively fit list.

It's almost as if he knows what he is doing and how to time a run. But nah, that can't be right.

This may well be the case, but we pissed away 2 very winnable games (Carlton and GCS) that may very well end up costing a finals birth. There were definitely coaching and structural problems early in the year that seem to have been largely addressed.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

This may well be the case, but we pi**ed away 2 very winnable games (Carlton and GCS) that may very well end up costing a finals birth. There were definitely coaching and structural problems early in the year that seem to have been largely addressed.

Definitely?

 

[dergert]

Imagine the collosal melts here if norffff signed him

 

[Iamspock]

Imagine the collosal melts here if norffff signed him

Thanks.... I just vomited into my mouth...

 

[bresker]

We criticise Bev at times for using players out of position but that’s what won us a flag.

Liam Picken from tagger to forward
Roughead & T Boyd to the ruck, if he bothered with rucks; 3rd man up; Dropping Minson in favour of mobility
M Boyd as a defensive sweeper
Bob Murphy as a focal creator

When we say he’s playing X out of position he might be teaching them something or trying out something that looks great in training.

That said, glad he saw the light with Dunkley!

 

[hoianbulldog]

O/k if he is already there if he gets another flag he becomes the greatest bulldog although hard to imagine anyone going past Teddy.

Luke is a good person.

 

[hoianbulldog]

On the other hand, it's good to have an unpredictable coach who can learn from his mistakes. He's adaptable, and unafraid to try left-field moves. He was the first coach to not bother contesting some ruck contests, taken up by others.

No he wasnt. Grant Thomas never rated ruckman. Luke wasnt the first.

 

[Triple Baileys]

Isn't Bevo contracted to coach to the end of the 2020 season? If so, how could he leave for StK at the end of this season?

 

[hoianbulldog]

This may well be the case, but we pi**ed away 2 very winnable games (Carlton and GCS) that may very well end up costing a finals birth. There were definitely coaching and structural problems early in the year that seem to have been largely addressed.

GC yes. Carlton pulled our pants down.

 

[PuzzledfromParkville]

Even better would be if he re-signs!!

Bang

 

[footyfan000001]

Isn't Bevo contracted to coach to the end of the 2020 season? If so, how could he leave for StK at the end of this season?

He won’t leave. But coaching contracts mean sweet-FA in my opinion!

 

[Mattdougie]

I’d be stunned if Bev leaves for the Saints for no other reason that their list is sh!t

 

[Libba39]

No he wasnt. Grant Thomas never rated ruckman. Luke wasnt the first.

Beveridge will rate ruckman when we have a player who can actually win hit-outs (hopefully English in 2 years).

Until then he builds the team and game style around OUR list's strengths, not the perceived strengths needed to win a flag.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

Definitely?

Yes. Off the top of my head
- Playing a wildly out of form Gowers
- Playing Dunkley in the forward line
- Not giving English any ruck support (still an issue)
- Playing Wallis in the middle more than forward line
- Playing a tall short in defence
- Having Gowers play through the middle
- Continually selecting Hayes

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Yes. Off the top of my head
- Playing a wildly out of form Gowers
- Playing Dunkley in the forward line
- Not giving English any ruck support (still an issue)
- Playing Wallis in the middle more than forward line
- Playing a tall short in defence
- Having Gowers play through the middle
- Continually selecting Hayes

What else was said in those match committee meetings that you were present for?

 

[ossie_21]

Monster offer from St Kilda coming, I’d guarantee it

 

[dergert]

Luke beveridge to be courted by St Kilda and appointed as coach by end of the year.

 

[Dazb86]

8 and 8 with a team in form heading into the last few rounds and a relatively fit list.

It's almost as if he knows what he is doing and how to time a run. But nah, that can't be right.

Do you honestly believe this? Some of his decisions early on in the year weren't great. Midget backline against the Blues, persisting with Dunkley forward too long and conversely Wallis getting so many midfield minutes, leaving English getting mauled to effectively lose winnable games more than a few times etc etc.

It's ticking along well at the moment but he hasn't had a good year in the box or at selection this year so far IMO. I can cop a few of those decisions as being in a rebuild philosophy at the moment ie persisting with B.Smith. But things like letting Lipinski wallow in the VFL while getting b.o.g's every week while playing Hayes ahead of him is just baffling.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

What else was said in those match committee meetings that you were present for?

Glib, smart arse responses - why would i bother

 

[Libba39]

Saints are going to come hard for Luke.

It's going to cost us significantly more to keep him now. I still think we'll hang on to him however.

 

[ScragCity]

Yes. Off the top of my head
- Playing a wildly out of form Gowers
- Playing Dunkley in the forward line
- Not giving English any ruck support (still an issue)
- Playing Wallis in the middle more than forward line
- Playing a tall short in defence
- Having Gowers play through the middle
- Continually selecting Hayes

Not giving English any ruck support? Pretty sure he shared the hitouts with Dunkley, Schache and Naughton last weekend. If you're suggesting we need to play two rucks then I disagree. Hardly any teams using two rucks now.

You're arguing that your opinions on coaching decisions make them objectively wrong. They're all debatable. Show a bit of humility.

 

[ScragCity]

Saints are going to come hard for Luke.

It's going to cost us significantly more to keep him now. I still think we'll hang on to him however.

He's contracted for next year and the club will absolutely hold him to that. Saints need someone before next season starts. He wouldn't leave even if he could. He's spent years creating a culture and a list he believes in. Not gonna walk away before he reaps the benefits of that.