Big Bash Future

[Westend]

David Warner has told Cricket Australia he wants to play in the UAE T20 League instead of the BBL in January. Australia was caught napping with the BBL and the doors have swung wide open for any Australian player who wants to make big bucks overseas and not play what really is a lame competition compared with the rest of the world. His decision will open a whole new can of worms. The BBL is in real strife.

They have opened it up for overseas players to sign on for the draft ...so I think its a good thing ..I don't think it will die off yet

But international cricket is facing a challenge with all these t20 comps...players have more choice and power and are chasing the coin. You will see more players being snapped up by foreign t20 leagues

In regards to warner ....I think its time give him this summer the tests and move him on in the test format...I have no issue with him chasing t20 coin and playing t20 for Australia when in form

 

[big_e]

Does he need clearance from CA? I think not

Yeah, actually he does. Here's the report when a bunch went back to the IPL last year: IPL 2021: Cricket Australia Issues No Objection Certificate (NOC) To Australian Players To Participate In The 2nd Phase

Relevant bits from ICC regulations are:

“No-Objection Certificate” means a document issued by the Relevant Member [ie Cricket Australia] stating that the Relevant Member has no objection to a named Foreign Player participating in a named Domestic Cricket Event [such as an Australian player in a UAE tournament].

 

[Aussie_boy]

Yeah, actually he does. Here's the report when a bunch went back to the IPL last year: IPL 2021: Cricket Australia Issues No Objection Certificate (NOC) To Australian Players To Participate In The 2nd Phase

Relevant bits from ICC regulations are:

“No-Objection Certificate” means a document issued by the Relevant Member [ie Cricket Australia] stating that the Relevant Member has no objection to a named Foreign Player participating in a named Domestic Cricket Event [such as an Australian player in a UAE tournament].

I assumed Cricketers were basically freelancers, thought the only issue would be breaching CA contract. Interesting.

 

[akkaps]

This may sound a little far fetched as an idea, but have a global T20 league with owners from all over the world, with teams that are not location specified. But 14 teams. Play with his over a 6-8 week period that is blocked out by the ICC, as the only T20 franchise comp in the world. And rotate between host countries every year. Have quotas on Capped, Uncapped, and U21 players. This idea would need to be fleshed out more
This means that all players will be available to play, and there won’t be any international cricket duties or other leagues that the players need to contend with.
Foreign owners means big money, and high salaries, and professionalism with the league
Rotating the host country will delivery economic benefit to the country every time it’s played there

 

[CakeEater]

This may sound a little far fetched as an idea, but have a global T20 league with owners from all over the world, with teams that are not location specified. But 14 teams. Play with his over a 6-8 week period that is blocked out by the ICC, as the only T20 franchise comp in the world. And rotate between host countries every year. Have quotas on Capped, Uncapped, and U21 players. This idea would need to be fleshed out more
This means that all players will be available to play, and there won’t be any international cricket duties or other leagues that the players need to contend with.
Foreign owners means big money, and high salaries, and professionalism with the league
Rotating the host country will delivery economic benefit to the country every time it’s played there

Yeah but the ICC/BCCI wont let that happen

 

[big_e]

Yeah but the ICC/BCCI wont let that happen

It'll never happen, of course, but there's an interesting possibility with the new South African comp having team owners also own IPL franchises. You could conceivable have a system not unlike minor league baseball, where IPL teams sign up Indian players very young and farm them out to their subsidiaries all around the world to get match experience. They could also use it as a way to recruit players from the local leagues into their system. Trinbago Knight Riders are owned by KKR but I don't think there's much crossover.

 

[akkaps]

It'll never happen, of course, but there's an interesting possibility with the new South African comp having team owners also own IPL franchises. You could conceivable have a system not unlike minor league baseball, where IPL teams sign up Indian players very young and farm them out to their subsidiaries all around the world to get match experience. They could also use it as a way to recruit players from the local leagues into their system. Trinbago Knight Riders are owned by KKR but I don't think there's much crossover.

This is actually a thing with the UAE league, where the IPL owners can’t recruit directly from their IPL player list.
The only issue with this is that the BCCI don’t allow players to go internationally for T20 Leagues

 

[western royboy]

Yeah but the ICC/BCCI wont let that happen

Don’t worry about the ICC, the BCCI run world cricket

 

[NYRB]

It would be fair to say that the BBL quality has been of a lesser quality in particularly the last 2 years. No doubt Cricket Australia were riding on the camels back thinking their league (aside from the IPL) could ever be surpassed.

From what Im hearing $350k-$500k tax-free for a 3 week window in the UAE or a $200 k tops in Australia (if your the best player on your list).

There is a saying "Money Talks. BS Walks"

 

[11kgm]

the best thing would be for the BBL to die

 

[NYRB]

the best thing would be for the BBL to die

You can say that but there will always be a period or window where a domestic T20 takes place, whether it be state /city teams.

The BBL product unfortunately struggles these days to attracts 11k+ supporters to games on the East Coast of Australia. The novelty of it has run off, and these gimmicky rule changes have been a part of the process.

To make it a stronger comp, you need the national team players to play, that would go part in way to solving the problem.

 

[NYRB]

What will keep the comp going, is the amounts bet on during these games. Cricket is a betting product for a global audience.

 

[11kgm]

You can say that but there will always be a period or window where a domestic T20 takes place, whether it be state /city teams.

The BBL product unfortunately struggles these days to attracts 11k+ supporters to games on the East Coast of Australia. The novelty of it has run off, and these gimmicky rule changes have been a part of the process.

To make it a stronger comp, you need the national team players to play, that would go part in way to solving the problem.

Something needs to change and fast or it's dead

No one is wanting to watch Harper Harvey McGurk playing for the gades

Long gone are the days of Gayle KP McCullum running around

They would be better doing a 30 day comp 6 teams

 

[Teen Wolf]

Such drama queens, some of you. "$361m 7-year broadcast deal with Disney Star across Asia" should probably give a clue regarding CA's intentions. It's not going to "die" nor is the format going to change significantly. Hate to break it to ya.

 

[akkaps]

Such drama queens, some of you. "$361m 7-year broadcast deal with Disney Star across Asia" should probably give a clue regarding CA's intentions. It's not going to "die" nor is the format going to change significantly. Hate to break it to ya.

Our point of view is that it should before it comes only domestic and club cricketers. I don’t doubt that CA will keep trying to tinker with the set up, but a lot needs to be done

 

[NYRB]

Such drama queens, some of you. "$361m 7-year broadcast deal with Disney Star across Asia" should probably give a clue regarding CA's intentions. It's not going to "die" nor is the format going to change significantly. Hate to break it to ya.

If i am right in saying, Kayo will no longer broadcast the rights in Australia from 2023-24 for the BBL? to watch the majority of BBL games , it is a pay per view .

 

[corbies]

If i am right in saying, Kayo will no longer broadcast the rights in Australia from 2023-24 for the BBL? to watch the majority of BBL games , it is a pay per view .

Why? The deal with Disney Star isn't for the Australian market. They haven't done that deal yet unless you have intel.

 

[11kgm]

Why? The deal with Disney Star isn't for the Australian market. They haven't done that deal yet unless you have intel.

It's been rumoured that they might be out bid and other streaming services like Amazon Disney and Paramount might want to get in on the streaming deal

 

[Teen Wolf]

The Disney Star deal takes a degree of pressure off the local broadcast rights (which will still be astronomical thanks to extra Tests v England/India), meaning CA are much less likely to further sacrifice accessibility/exposure for more money.

If so, I wouldn't expect there to be any change to the current arrangement of 43 games on FTA, all games on Fox & Kayo.

 

[SSwans2011]

the team most likely to get the 4th pick(33%) ends up bottom. And it so happens to be the smallest market team. Add this. despite having 9/15 picks, the 2 teams who lost first in the finals end up as the bottom 2.

oh well, it doesnt matter anyway. Hobart would stuff up an international player regardless of what pick we are.

This might be the most mindbogglingly nonsensical draft order I've ever seen.

 

[JackFlash]

The South African and Dubai league will clash with the BBL with IPL teams owning some of the action? Any player in OZ sitting on the periphery will go for the cash rather than sit on his backside back here hoping to get picked? T20 is now in complete control and Australia is in danger of no longer being the place to be as far as cricket is concerned?

 

[akkaps]

List of players signed for the CSA T20 League. List is already better than the player list for the BBL.
Jos Buttler, Liam Livingstone, Eoin Morgan, Jason Roy, Sam Curran, Adil Rashid, Tymal Mills, Jason Holder, Alzarri Joseph, Obed McCoy, Dushmantha Chameera, Maheesh Theekshana, Bhanuka Rajapaksa, and Harry Tector.

 

[4Seasons]

Such drama queens, some of you. "$361m 7-year broadcast deal with Disney Star across Asia" should probably give a clue regarding CA's intentions. It's not going to "die" nor is the format going to change significantly. Hate to break it to ya.

You have to laugh at the people who think the BBL is going to die, or that T20 isn’t the future.

The funniest part is the people who would rather see their favourite players play Sheffield Shield, the thriving competition that attracts whopping crowds of around 100 people, mostly aged over 50 years old.

 

[11kgm]

You have to laugh at the people who think the BBL is going to die, or that T20 isn’t the future.

The funniest part is the people who would rather see their favourite players play Sheffield Shield, the thriving competition that attracts whopping crowds of around 100 people, mostly aged over 50 years old.

I think the BBL is going to be overshadowed by the UAE league and that's why it will die

 

[giggler99]

Just bring it back to a state based league, least it will feel organic!