Maitland posted their first win by 54 points over Singleton. Very happy bunch this week at the Sainters. Hopefully there will soon be a resolution on ground closures that will provide a little certainty for future weeks. The grounds were very prematurely closed this week and it was lucky they were playing away.
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Maitland posted their first win by 54 points over Singleton. Very happy bunch this week at the Sainters. Hopefully there will soon be a resolution on ground closures that will provide a little certainty for future weeks. The grounds were very prematurely closed this week and it was lucky they were playing away.
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Also noticed that terrigal were up by 3 or 4 goals at 3/4 time and also missing Pete van dam and angus darling which is good signs for terrigal..were city missing anyone besides Mitch knight?
The Whisper05
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I think City had 6 playing who wouldn't be in their strongest squad. But you can only play who is on the field on that day.
I think Terrigal look slow and with an aging group it's this year or never.
Cardiff seem to have a good mix, but it's whether or not they can keep players on the park every week. If teams are playing harder matches week in week out, they won't get the rest the need to get over niggles, so will be very interesting when it gets towards finals.
I think you'll find every Prem div team will use more players this year than they have previously.
Will be interesting to watch Lake Macquarie v Warners Bay this weekend. The biggest problem with the dockers is that they don't have any structure. It's time they put one together. The other issue they have is their bottom 6 are not Prem Div players. They have made improvements but I think these two areas need addressing before they will challenge in this league.
do they show the games in queensland? pay tv? what channel?
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Maybe he flew done to watch you train at Woy Woy
You used to be able to get the Sydney premier div game on main event,but not our comp!! lol
Just realised he was prob refering to the fact you (whisper) are located in Queensland on your info lol oh well who's gonna win this week?
Tips for this week
City to beat Killarney by 10 goals
Cardiff to beat Terrigal by 6 goals
Warners Bay to beat Lake Macquarie by 2 goals. Im sure alot of people out there would be hoping to see the Doggies get beat however.
With the amount of sides now struggling to field 18s sides, and Under 16s footy in the region going pretty ordinary, what do people think about scrapping the 18s competition and clubs having the option to do what City have done and field a 3rds side which contains a few kids in 18s in with a few older blokes. At the moment we see a club like Cardiff having to play kids like Heeney and O'Neill in the 18s just so they field a side, where in reality, all Beau and Hugh are doing in the 18s is developing bad habits and being at greater risk of injury because they are good enough just to go at quarter pace and dominate games at that level. They arent the only club in that position, just the first one that comes to mind. We would be looking after the young players in the region a bit better then because they would only be selected for one game a week, as opposed to feeling obligated to play 18s to "help out".
The 18s standard and numbers in teams is so poor at the moment that good kids are wasting their time in that comp. The good kids will and are playing premier div footy at the moment, is it easier for clubs to field a 3rd (or 2nd) senior side with the mix of kids and older guys and keep the other kids in the game that way?
Its not an ideal idea and something that goes against my usual line of thinking, but I think everyone needs to question the merits of the 18s comp at the moment with the numbers running onto the park each week.
agree with the idea but would be worried about scrapping U18 footy and having them play with muppets (sorry guys) in the 3's ... maybe combine U16 and U18s to create the numbers and a healthier comp ... there are many 16's already playing in the U18 comp ... would rather have kids playing with kids on a sat morning rather than sunday afternoon ...
this is the biggest issue in the bdafl at the mo ... there are plenty of open age footballers around but we must secure the kids coming through
My preferred option would be to move to a 17s. It's what I played as a junior ("In my day...") but offers an option for players whose bodies are not developed for senior competition to continue and also for those who are able to make the jump to move to the next level. It could be played on a Saturday with the seniors and would allow for three games. It would only need a little co-operation between the two bodies to occur. On the numbers this year, it would have allowed most sides to form teams and strengthen their clubs. We are losing kids in the 16s and 18s due to schooling and work pressures but can maintain the numbers in a 17s whilst 18s enter the senior ranks. Just my thoughts.
17s wouldnt be a bad idea. I think if youre turning 18 and cant physically or ability wise handle yourself in at least 1st or 2nd div in this league, you are probably better served to the game by umpiring or being on a club committee than playing. I think everyone who plays is capable of having a run in a lower grade and getting a couple of kicks in the league so it isnt too much of a step up for a 18 year old.
It definitely should be something considered as Lake Macquarie are only an injury or family holiday from forfeiting 18s games, Nelson Bay are struggling for numbers this week I believe, Cardiff have low numbers so far for them, Killarney are mainly 16s kids this year, Warners and Terrigal look the only 2 with strong numbers at this stage and this probably shows in early results.
The regional bodies for Central Coast, Hunter plus BDAFL need to get together and work out a strategic plan for the youth footy in the region. There has been no collaboration on this issue at all and it is obvious by the way the comp is going. It is the biggest issue in the region. If we dont have kids coming through we dont have clubs!
Prediction for this week
Cardiff by 13
City by 10
Lake Mac by 6
(after seeing the size, speed and quality of Cardiff I dont see them getting beaten this year)
Deitzy? is this not what I thought would be the way to go? Agree not ideal but it might be our best/only choice
The 17's thing may or may not work and as ppl on here have said it is not what the mighty afl want,but for our comp I think it would only help the 16's/17's age group to have teams with more numbers in it(we wont know unless we try,im just using my dodgy maths in that 3 birthdays in an age group has more players than 2 birthdays) keep it at local level ie Newwy teams stay alligned with their juniors and Coast with their own.
As for the 3rd/or 2nd open side for a club instead of 18's (again agree with u that it is not ideal,as 18's coming in to seniors is how we get open players to stay,keep the juniors coming in etc) but come on look at the joke that is the 18's comp!!! I was on the conferance call when they decided to go ahead with 18's this year and from my point of view not too many clubs that nominated seemed overly confident with their numbers in that grade! We have 2 teams which you could say are going ok with numbers and the rest really only just making up numbers and as you and others say 1 familly away from forfeiting!!
I would much prefer 17 year olds to play in the (16 turned into 17 year old comp) with their junior clubs,any talented players can always decide to play up or just seniors etc and the 18 year olds etc can help the open age player numbers to field an extra team for their club ie Terr 3's instead of wasting their time in the current 18's non-event.
Spinksy is 1 who comes to mind that of the 18's players wanted to play 18's(ie went to Warners,instead of playing open grade at Wyong) but most i think would play at their own clubs if that was the option!
Again just thoughts,but honestly anyone can see what a joke the 18's is and always was going to be!!!
I guess the one thing that would concern me would be a younger player being taken out by a 'muppet', hopefully most as Deitzy says are ready for open age footy(at 18 the good 1's are getting drafted,and we are a long way off that level!!! lol) I think if 16's became 17's this would help pretect the 'not ready yet players' while boosting numbers in the 'junior grade of 17's and boosting numbers with 18' year olds being considered senior players (just like the old days) as someone else posted!! I remember those days and was the 1st age to go from17's one year to 18's the next(dont think it would of hurt me to play opens!) and if so as Deitzy said there are umpies etc!!
Cardiff to win by a few goals (maybe 6 or 7)
City by 8 or so in saying this think both KV and Terr have had a decent crack at it this year and both have good players they just need to minimise the effect that their 'bottom 6' have to compete all game.
Dockers to win,just i think I dont dilike the Dogs and normally have thought positively about them shaking the tag of 3rd best(behind City/Cardiff) they have got close some years and had some good results and improvements with different ppl having influence but this is not their year and the Dockers look like they heading forward(even if only slightly!)
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I would think that you will find that most clubs are currently in this boat. Cardiff also have half a dozen, Warners Bay have half a club
And i'll bet they will be reading this tripe for motivation come Saturday. Have they ever finished out of the finals?
As I said above, my mail tells me that Cardiff have been missing 6 bona fide first graders for each game. What will their team be like when the best 22 are on the park???
I guess it will depend a lot on injuries and availabilities no? we are in an amateur league after all (well apart from the Dockers and Killarney Vale throwing the odd $100 a game around)
Bollocks. I'm told the Dockers have the best structure ever seen from a team from Tulkaba. When was the last time a team from outside the top 4 kicked 11 goals in a game against Cardiff??? I believe they will finish the season in 4th spot.
Whisper 05 doesn't live in Queensland.
Is anyone going to take his location seriously?
Monk or Saint he is not, but whats a little white lie between forumites?
From where I stand, there is always smoke an mirrors on forums.
The main thing is, we all have a bit of fun otherwise, we will all get
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No one from Killarney is getting $100 to play a game
crankyoldman
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Who are the six missing from Cardiff?
Northern_Swan
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A quick look at sporting pulse tells you that the following players played in last years Grand Final and haven't featured in first grade for Cardiff this year:
Andrew Hodge
Adam Clarke
Sam Haigh
Jackson McMahon
Matthew Garrett
Ben Stewart
Aaron Wivell
Caleb Wivell
Mick Krake
Interesting to see Nelson Bay have forfeited 18's tomorrow? Not a good look for round 3. Will be waiting with baited breath to see what the league will do to address this issue.
Also interesting to note that as of 9.35 Friday evening there is nothing on the website about tomorrow
crankyoldman
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A quick look at sporting pulse tells you that the following players played in last years Grand Final and haven't featured in first grade for Cardiff this year:
Andrew Hodge
Adam Clarke
Sam Haigh
Jackson McMahon
Matthew Garrett
Ben Stewart
Aaron Wivell
Caleb Wivell
Mick Krake
Interesting to see Nelson Bay have forfeited 18's tomorrow? Not a good look for round 3. Will be waiting with baited breath to see what the league will do to address this issue.
Also interesting to note that as of 9.35 Friday evening there is nothing on the website about tomorrow
Some are playing first division by the looks of the web site, probably haven't done a full preseason so won't be picked for premier division for a while. Also noticed no Jack Pratt or Matthew Davies in either Prem or 1st division lists.
Northern_Swan
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I was just commenting on your comment on re_tardus's comments. If they were good enough to play in last years granny, they are obviously of first grade standard, and would be a welcome addition to the team. That being said, if they all front up in the 2's, it would make for a stronger team for them in weeks to come
Very interesting results today. From the tips it seems a bit of an upset, a close one at Cardiff and a draw for City with less scoring shots. All three good games by the look.
Northern_Swan
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Absolute cracker at Bill Elliott. Terrigal were in front up until early in the 4th, and the lead see sawed from there. People who said Terrigal are on old legs are sorely mistaken. I thought they were very impressive.
I'd reckon Cardiff have a bit of improvement in them yet and Terrigal would be confident they have too. A good advertisement for local footy today
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A great game by the Doggies although slipped in the last quarter. Great to see veteran, Dan Pedersen, back with 3 goals after a run in the seconds a week or so ago. He still looks fit.
Not good news with Nelson Bay Under 18s eh, after a big year last season. I know these boys move on but from what I understood their personnel problems were supposedly solved after the junior club Port Stephens, overcame their issues with Nelson Bay?
Are we now back with not enough to fill the side? If so was all the promise of 2011 an apparition? :diamond:
Not good news with Nelson Bay Under 18s eh, after a big year last season. I know these boys move on but from what I understood their personnel problems were supposedly solved after the junior club Port Stephens, overcame their issues with Nelson Bay?
Are we now back with not enough to fill the side? If so was all the promise of 2011 an apparition? :diamond:
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