MerkSaysWhat
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Thanks for all your contributions Dave. I think all BDAFL club supporters appreciate the pix and doubly appreciate that you left your camera off on their silly sundays.
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Thanks for all your contributions Dave. I think all BDAFL club supporters appreciate the pix and doubly appreciate that you left your camera off on their silly sundays.
To be honest, from the BDAFL website after the qualifying final, to the various posters over the last month, Its becoming a bit tired to hear the old "Cardiff had an off Day" chestnut trotted out.
They were favourites and rightly so, after a great home and away series, but they were beaten twice in the finals by a disciplined and better team on the day.
Thats twice in a row, when do the excuses stop I wonder and the rightful recognition paid?
City didn't have a bad day last year, they choked was the call, whats different this year?
Harden up and take your medicine.
They were favourites and rightly so, after a great home and away series, but they were beaten twice in the finals by a disciplined and better team on the day.
Thats twice in a row, when do the excuses stop I wonder and the rightful recognition paid?
City didn't have a bad day last year, they choked was the call, whats different this year?
Harden up and take your medicine.
Well, I am not sure about having an off day - A look at the 1/4 by 1/4 scores shows they lost the game in 1st 1/4. In both the ressies and the firsts, the team kicking with the wind easily out scored the other team, EXCEPT in the first quarter of the firsts (in the 3rd, they outscored City by 30 to 2).
Once they failed to capitalise on that, they were stuffed for the rest of the game. (So forget about ice vests etc at the breaks, they had lost it by the first break)
So the question is, did they loose it or did City win it ? I dont think I am able to judge that for two reasons,
1) You dont get a good picture of the whole game when you are concentrating through a telephoto lens looking for that great mark or tackle shot (as I did for most of the game)
2) I am no expert on AFL (as my tipping scores shows)
but as they say, you can only play as good as your opponents let you
P.S. I dont support either side (I am slightly biased towards Warners Bay as I live down that way and they bought some photos from me) but I also thought it was great that a different club won each grade. Having only one or two teams completely dominate is not good for a comp
Agreed Dave it was great to see different clubs win the 3 grades.
As far as analysing the matches, I agree you can go 1/4 by 1/4 and it shows the wind etc. In all the grades the game if broken down that far each one was lost in the 1st quarter either by building a large lead or in the case of the ones, not large enough.
The point I was making, was that despite these facts and coaching, ice vests or what ever, both teams had the same conditions to play in, so to lose, its not a bad day, the dominant team in Every grade got the bickies, so to make excuses as some are is pretty weak.
"so to make excuses as some are is pretty weak." - swans12
I am not sure about making excuses, but the way I see it as Cardiff fairly easily beat city in the home and aways, and City reversed this in both the finals, one of 3 things must happened
1) City played better in the finals that the home and away
2) Cardiff played worse in the finals than the home and away
3) A combination of the above in some proportion.
Now I think it was (3), the Hawks key players (Ryan et al) seemed to struglle, but the City players lifted across the ground.
I enjoy a healthy debate discussion about a game, just saying team A was better than team B (while self evidently true) makes for a pretty short discusssion. Hey, its a long time until next season, we need something to kick around until then
I am not sure about making excuses, but the way I see it as Cardiff fairly easily beat city in the home and aways, and City reversed this in both the finals, one of 3 things must happened
1) City played better in the finals that the home and away
2) Cardiff played worse in the finals than the home and away
3) A combination of the above in some proportion.
Now I think it was (3), the Hawks key players (Ryan et al) seemed to struglle, but the City players lifted across the ground.
I enjoy a healthy debate discussion about a game, just saying team A was better than team B (while self evidently true) makes for a pretty short discusssion. Hey, its a long time until next season, we need something to kick around until then
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Mate as far as I can see no one from Cardiff has come on here and made any excuses. Ice vests, strong winds, coaching etc. all that stuff has been brought up by various people from varying clubs as observations not excuses. For me an “excuse” would be someone coming on here complaining about the umpiring, injured/unavailable players etc, such has been the case throughout the year by other supporters. But nothing.
Tall Poppy Syndrome is rife. People having a go at Cardiff cause they haven’t won a flag for 2 years now. Warners Bay haven’t won one for 15 years, why don't we bag them for failing? The emphasis (and celebration in some cases) that people from other clubs have put on Cardiff losing only disrespects the achievements of City.
So I suggest you "Shut up and take your medicine" cause your making shit up now
Here is an example of the crap SS Dumbo, hope there is many more off days to be had.
I dont think its me talking shit mate, just putting the losses into perspective, something about counting your chickens isn't it.
Pie Eater, Was there for all but the start of the 18's and it was a great day at the footy (not connected with any of the clubs involved)
As for next year I think that Belmont are starting a club for Auskickand possibly 10/12 year olds depending on numbers!
Nelsons want to drop to ressies and hope to get 18's.
The league apparently stopped the Singleton/Muswellbrook merger this year due to time constraints but hopefully wont stand in the way if these clubs choose this path(this would create a full 3 grade club)
Any other news?
On the last point, I think a lot of ppl support the idea of a pre season comp but the issue as brought up previously is grounds. On the coast we cant get on for training!!
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A few things:
Firstly, Man at work does not claim or indicate to be a Cardiff supporter or player. So you cannot attribute the post to a Cardiff person having sour grapes.
Secondly, you have taken the quote out of context:
Add that to the equation and it is clear that Man at work is not making excuses, rather acknowledging that City were better coached.
Thirdly, this is a quote from City's website:
"Cardiff was outcoached and outplayed by a talented City outfit that followed up its second semi win with another impressive performance to show it has ended the season as the premier first grade team."
If you attribute people making observations about the coaching on the day as "making excuses" then City are obviously making excuses for Cardiff.
And finally, you're an idiot.
Here's my initial post mate, just to confirm things.
"To be honest, from the BDAFL website after the qualifying final, to the various posters over the last month, Its becoming a bit tired to hear the old "Cardiff had an off Day" chestnut trotted out."
No one mentioned Cardiff, which is obviously where you are from, but I suppose your still a bit precious after getting beaten.
Various posters, (I never mentioned Cardiff specifically) were quoting that Cardiff had had 2 off days, credit to the winners was all I was saying.
This crap is why everyone non Cardiff was hoping you would get beaten in every game on the day. Some (Cardiff people) will call it jealousy, others call it arrogance.
As for the personal abuse mate, go as hard as you like, it just confirms my point.
Have a nice Day
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Mate your just making up shit to back you up.
Cardiff are not accountable for what is written on the BDAFL website. And you also quote the rather ambiguous "various posters" as saying that Cardiff had an off day.
So when you state "Harden up and take your medicine" you were not directing it that at Cardiff people? Were you directing at "various posters" who have not stated an affiliation with the Hawks?
Or when you write "Every grade got the bickies, so to make excuses as some are is pretty weak" you are not directing that at Cardiff people making excuses? Are you directing it at "various posters" to stop making excuses about a club they have not stated an affiliation to?
And then you question why can't we call what happened to Cardiff a choke? Doesn't saying Cardiff choked take away from City's victory and in turn contradict your whole argument
I would say "various posters" on this board are dic kheads (by which I mean you)
Mate, no one said that Cardiff were responsible for the website (past GM for that I believe), or for any other posts for that matter, so what are you trying to say?
You are obviously from Cardiff so get over it, you lost and now your'e dribbbling.
tigersden_08
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Last round against Cardiff i thought this mob aren't capable of winning the GF. I think what you said in the above is utter BS, i think to many clubs showed Cardiff way to much respect throughout the year and cardiff had them beat before they went out to play. They have I think 3 excellent players and about 5-6 strong players the rest are just the average player.
City on the other hand have a good solid range across the park. watching the GF i thought they had about 7-8 excellent players and the rest were all solid contributors.
anyone agree??
punthead
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your forgeting mate pederson won city a flag which you would not of got without him after west folded (fact) plus there is lots of other west people sprinkeled through that club!. you no nothing of the crunch as the great rizzbang would say!!
punthead
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gongrats to barto86 on his big BandF win last night at the warners bay pressentation well done champ. it was a great night good work doggies.
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pp salsher
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I don’t agree.
If Gosford were to show too much respect they’d offer complimentary valet parking at Adcock Park, large expansive change rooms for the visitors with free masseurs and fruit platters, and then a complimentary 3 course meal including wine after each game.
Playing like shit, in my opinion, does not constitute showing respect.
savage hotdog
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rrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
now i'm angry
now i'm angry
Have been away on holidays the last week or so.
I have to say the GF was a great game. Not being a supporter of either team, it looked to me that, as said by other people, City certainly out played Cardiff on the day and deserved their win. Something tells me the City coaches have been crafting their "battle plan" for some time.
Cardiff are a great football team and go about their business in a very professional way. While there can be only one winner, it was good to see a great game between 2 excellent teams in conditions (perhaps a bit hot!) that allowed players to show their skills.
Well done to the Umpires. The fact they were hardly noticed is a good indication that they had a good day.
I have to say the GF was a great game. Not being a supporter of either team, it looked to me that, as said by other people, City certainly out played Cardiff on the day and deserved their win. Something tells me the City coaches have been crafting their "battle plan" for some time.
Cardiff are a great football team and go about their business in a very professional way. While there can be only one winner, it was good to see a great game between 2 excellent teams in conditions (perhaps a bit hot!) that allowed players to show their skills.
Well done to the Umpires. The fact they were hardly noticed is a good indication that they had a good day.
you would hope not. what would happen to all those over 23's that dont get a game in seniors?? you would only drive more people away from the game. it would be interesting having an older age group than 18's.... might have a few fuller lineups around the clubs and make the transition into senior footy a bit easier for the young ones
Surely the Black Diamond would not be that stupid...but then again maybe they are?
Northern_Swan
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That would be a really daft decision, even more so than Netball!
If that were to come to the fore, we would have a situation where kids who are 16, fresh out of Juniors playing against grown men, some of who are only just out of first grade. While young guns could handle themselves pretty well (the guys that WB have blooded over the last few years as an example), how are young guys who are just out for a bit of a kick going to fare?
Obviously the intention, if this is in fact true, is to try to keep those just out of 18's in the game. Perhaps instead of doing this they could increase the under age comp to U/19 (which I think RL has done), and/or implement a rule where there must be X number of U/23 players in the Reserve Grade match squad (i'd suggest 5 as most clubs would find that an easily achievable task)
But then again, the Board will probably do whatever suits Cardiff best right?
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