Politics Black Lives Matter

[Ghost Patrol]

How many people do you know who frequently begin sentences with "I mean"? It's not a hill I'm wanting to die on, people can talk how they wish, and I will call it cringe if I wish. To me it is lame teenager gamer slang, but I mean, each to their own.

Cringe.

 

[Chief]

if the judge hadn't of warned jurors not to watch news programs than her words could have swayed democratic voters in the jury.

what happens in a case where these type of remarks slip through to jurors. Escpecially todays world where everything is linked on a phone.

If we cant agree that sitting congress members should not be commenting on live cases is wrong, than man, I feel sorry for us.

Maybe news shows shouldn’t air it?

Look: no she shouldn’t have done it.

And it’s nothing like Trump’s bullshit.

 

[Taylor]

Trumpism is dead, you suckers have had your time. You can stop the projection now.

You can't even see how thick into the woods you've been lead by the media.

When you finally catch up and see how manipulated the narratives are and who is profiting from them being the ones controlling that narrative you'll either wake up or you'll bury your head in partisan division's buttcrack and blame other people.

There is an easy solution to this though, bipartisan support should be easy for a bill that makes media groups liable for misrepresented or underreported stories that lead to damage, death or injury that it stirs up.

You want to know how much this political divide is about making money? Watch the republicans propose a tax exempt status for media and social media, then watch the entire machine suddenly start talking a different language.

 

[ShanDog]

I think I could have probably arrested someone for passing a hooky note without killing them.

Passing a hooky note? I don't think we're discussing the same incident.

 

[scoman]

Passing a hooky note? I don't think we're discussing the same incident.

We were, then he wasn't, then he disappeared.

 

[Number37]

You can't even see how thick into the woods you've been lead by the media.

When you finally catch up and see how manipulated the narratives are and who is profiting from them being the ones controlling that narrative you'll either wake up or you'll bury your head in partisan division's buttcrack and blame other people.

I'd like to know under what conditions would a protest movement would be acceptable to you?

 

[Taylor]

I'd like to know under what conditions would a protest movement would be acceptable to you?

The protest is fine. They are working with what they are given.

But if they are fed heavily edited content to ensure it looks far worse so they hit the streets then they are pawns and being used by those profiting.

The issue is the media.

 

[Tony Harrison]

Cringe.

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I mean, theres a few more as well.

I mean surely any person with maturity greater than your average 14 year old does not believe that rocking a balaclava and pepper-spraying or bike-locking people who don't agree with you is going to improve the world? Like people will stop voting Trump because they saw an elderly man get coward-punched by antifa?

I mean he created one of the strongest US economies in history, during a pandemic, with vaccines now being rolled out...

Lefties: "But he writes mean tweets, so let's go with the other guy".

Anyone seen the Black Friday economic stats? Crikey!

 

[Number37]

The protest is fine. They are working with what they are given.

But if they are fed heavily edited content to ensure it looks far worse so they hit the streets then they are pawns and being used by those profiting.

The issue is the media.

I reckon you've completely missed the whole point.

How is it that so many could recollect experiences they themselves or friends or family had that were eerily similar to the types of things they are protesting against?
Was that the media feeding them false recollections of their own experiences?

 

[Taylor]

I reckon you've completely missed the whole point.

How is it that so many could recollect experiences they themselves or friends or family had that were eerily similar to the types of things they are protesting against?
Was that the media feeding them false recollections of their own experiences?

I think you're seeing the emotional undertones already there from a community that statistically is the victim of most of the crime in the US being exploited by intentionally inflammatory news so the news can report on it and make a buck.

The issue has never been the protest.

 

[andrewmillman]

I reckon you've completely missed the whole point.

How is it that so many could recollect experiences they themselves or friends or family had that were eerily similar to the types of things they are protesting against?
Was that the media feeding them false recollections of their own experiences?

If there is so many serious examples that protestors have personal experience with, why doesn't the movement focus on one of these more tragic and pure victims of brutality rather than that of a dubious character like Floyd?

 

[Number37]

I think you're seeing the emotional undertones already there from a community that statistically is the victim of most of the crime in the US being exploited by intentionally inflammatory news so the news can report on it and make a buck.

The issue has never been the protest.

I'll ask again.

How is the media inflaming the lived experience of so many?

There's been protests after almost every bout of police going over the top, for the last 50 years.
Don't you think that people have just gotten to the point where they say enough is enough?
It isn't enough to just protest, it has to be off the charts protests so that something is changed.

 

[Taylor]

I'll ask again.

How is the media inflaming the lived experience of so many?

There's been protests after almost every bout of police going over the top, for the last 50 years.
Don't you think that people have just gotten to the point where they say enough is enough?
It isn't enough to just protest, it has to be off the charts protests so that something is changed.

Take a moment to appreciate the politicans getting behind it who have been in a position to influence change for a long time. They are using these people.

Just as BLM spiked in 2016 and they forget about it until 2020, they will use it and move on until they need to motivate people again.

They don't care about people suffering.

 

[Taylor]

The lived experience of people who are statistically the victims and perpetrators of half the violent crime in their nation means a significant portion of people have interactions with the police that result in life changing removals of family, friends and they get sent away. They also lose so many to their own.

The law doesn't protect them well enough and the law shows up and takes people away, making two victim groups.

It's horribly violent.

 

[Number37]

If there is so many serious examples that protestors have personal experience with, why doesn't the movement focus on one of these more tragic and pure victims of brutality rather than that of a dubious character like Floyd?

Maybe you think it is OK that George Floyd died in the way that he did because he was a shitty person?
I assume that you would be OK with a mob turning up at Chauvin's house and lynching him, because he is also a shitty person?

That would be ridiculous.
Your reasoning is nothing more than horrendous victim blaming.

 

[andrewmillman]

Maybe you think it is OK that George Floyd died in the way that he did because he was a shitty person?
I assume that you would be OK with a mob turning up at Chauvin's house and lynching him, because he is also a shitty person?

That would be ridiculous.
Your reasoning is nothing more than horrendous victim blaming.

Disagree, earlier on i stated this was a tragedy (and I believe Chauvin likely was guilty).
I'm simply stating that to make the movement as persuasive as possible, surely there is another example that doesnt elicit the "yeah buts" that arise when you use a serious convicted criminal (who also died a terrible unjust death to be clear).

 

[Number37]

Take a moment to appreciate the politicans getting behind it who have been in a position to influence change for a long time. They are using these people.

Just as BLM spiked in 2016 and they forget about it until 2020, they will use it and move on until they need to motivate people again.

They don't care about people suffering.

The lived experience of people who are statistically the victims and perpetrators of half the violent crime in their nation means a significant portion of people have interactions with the police that result in life changing removals of family, friends and they get sent away. They also lose so many to their own.

The law doesn't protect them well enough and the law shows up and takes people away, making two victim groups.

It's horribly violent.

Your entire argument rests on the idea that people are getting fooled.
How the dickens is the media fooling people about their own lived experience?
The short answer is, they're not.

There's clearly something else going on.
The trend recently has been that people have had a gutful. #metoo #BLM

You should start a strawman factory.
You'll make a mint selling strawmen to RWNJs on this board alone.

 

[Taylor]

Maybe you think it is OK that George Floyd died in the way that he did because he was a shitty person?
I assume that you would be OK with a mob turning up at Chauvin's house and lynching him, because he is also a shitty person?

That would be ridiculous.
Your reasoning is nothing more than horrendous victim blaming.

Short of actively risking the lives of people I don't think police are ever justified in killing, but has anyone asked the woman Floyd victimised all those years ago how she feels about him being a saint now?

 

[Grockadoc]

I just took a look at Twitter, and a lot of people still see her as the victim.

This. She was carrying a deadly weapon. Charging towards another black female, brandishing the knife. She was told to drop it, didn't and the police neutralised the threat. She was not a victim. In that situation, she was the aggressor and a threat to another human being's life.

Imagine the backlash from the public if the police didn't take her down and she killed the person she was charging towards?

 

[Number37]

Disagree, earlier on i stated this was a tragedy (and I believe Chauvin likely was guilty).
I'm simply stating that to make the movement as persuasive as possible, surely there is another example that doesnt elicit the "yeah buts" that arise when you use a serious convicted criminal (who also died a terrible unjust death to be clear).

Why would the movement want to waste it's time trying to convince people like you?
Seriously, pick the right victim? WTF?

 

[Taylor]

Your entire argument rests on the idea that people are getting fooled.
How the dickens is the media fooling people about their own lived experience?
The short answer is, they're not.

There's clearly something else going on.
The trend recently has been that people have had a gutful. #metoo #BLM

You should start a strawman factory.
You'll make a mint selling strawmen to RWNJs on this board alone.

Imagine a world where the media has been under reporting stories to stir people up for decades.

Coupled with a culture that doesn't recognise it's crime problem and here we are.

But these people are being used because it gets views and clicks. Actual issues are being used. Actual dead people are being used.

People are getting rich off this.

 

[Number37]

Short of actively risking the lives of people I don't think police are ever justified in killing, but has anyone asked the woman Floyd victimised all those years ago how she feels about him being a saint now?

If you want someone to blame for Floyd turning into a saint, blame the cop who kneeled on his throat.

 

[Number37]

Imagine a world where the media has been under reporting stories to stir people up for decades.

Coupled with a culture that doesn't recognise it's crime problem and here we are.

But these people are being used because it gets views and clicks. Actual issues are being used. Actual dead people are being used.

People are getting rich off this.

Again.
Lived. Experience.

The question you should be asking is how so many people can relate with their own lived experience.
How the F is it that so many people have a story about cops going over the line (However minor or insignificant)?

 

[Taylor]

If you want someone to blame for Floyd turning into a saint, blame the cop who kneeled on his throat.

No, I'll blame the people who have used his death to profit from it.

 

[Taylor]

Again.
Lived. Experience.

The question you should be asking is how so many people can relate with their own lived experience.
How the F is it that so many people have a story about cops going over the line (However minor or insignificant)?

Because statistically they live where over half the violent crime in their nation exists. That comes with police interactions.

If it were a huge issue we might hear more stories about people doing absolutely nothing to warrant police attention being gunned down instead of these stories of violent criminals resisting arrest or actively firing on police being shot.