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Was on the fence about this having not played any of the Dark Souls games but after a few videos I'm hyped and ready to pre order. The collectors edition with the premium art book and steelbook case is mighty tempting.

Hope this game is hard as **** too, getting really tired of easy, hand holding games.
 
Premiers04 said:
Was on the fence about this having not played any of the Dark Souls games but after a few videos I'm hyped and ready to pre order. The collectors edition with the premium art book and steelbook case is mighty tempting.

Hope this game is hard as **** too, getting really tired of easy, hand holding games.
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The difficulty of these games is so overstated, they're challenging but not crazy difficult. Plenty of my mates are fairly average at video games but even they've been able to beat Dark Souls or at least get quite a ways through it.

I have a harder time getting through Veteran on CoD than I do playing through Dark Souls. It's not so much about the difficulty but rather the satisfaction you get from a fair challenge that isn't cheap or unfair.
 
mickelboy182 said:
The difficulty of these games is so overstated, they're challenging but not crazy difficult. Plenty of my mates are fairly average at video games but even they've been able to beat Dark Souls or at least get quite a ways through it.

I have a harder time getting through Veteran on CoD than I do playing through Dark Souls. It's not so much about the difficulty but rather the satisfaction you get from a fair challenge that isn't cheap or unfair.
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That's subjective, you could just suck **** at shooters. I for one didn't struggle with the last of us on grounded while others say its nuts crushing
 
beta_condition said:
That's subjective, you could just suck **** at shooters. I for one didn't struggle with the last of us on grounded while others say its nuts crushing
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Subjective sure but there are builds on Dark Souls that make the game an absolute breeze, Call of Duty not so much. (For clarification, the only CoD I've actually played through on Veteran was WaW)
 
Premiers04 said:
Was on the fence about this having not played any of the Dark Souls games but after a few videos I'm hyped and ready to pre order. The collectors edition with the premium art book and steelbook case is mighty tempting.

Hope this game is hard as **** too, getting really tired of easy, hand holding games.
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Mightyape have the collectors edition about $30 cheaper than JB btw
 
beta_condition said:
That's subjective, you could just suck **** at shooters. I for one didn't struggle with the last of us on grounded while others say its nuts crushing
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I'm with you.

I finished TLOU easy enough on Grounded and know solid gamers who can't even finish it on survivor.

I'm also one of those who didn't have a hell-ish time with Ornstein and Smough... or Smelter Demon in 2.
 
CasuallyDressed said:
I'm with you.

I finished TLOU easy enough on Grounded and know solid gamers who can't even finish it on survivor.

I'm also one of those who didn't have a hell-ish time with Ornstein and Smough... or Smelter Demon in 2.
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So I have to ask you, did you struggle with anything in DaS? I've played through it many times and I just don't see how you could struggle with anything other than O&S.
 

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mickelboy182 said:
The difficulty of these games is so overstated, they're challenging but not crazy difficult. Plenty of my mates are fairly average at video games but even they've been able to beat Dark Souls or at least get quite a ways through it.

I have a harder time getting through Veteran on CoD than I do playing through Dark Souls. It's not so much about the difficulty but rather the satisfaction you get from a fair challenge that isn't cheap or unfair.
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I tend to agree. Games using unfair tactics to raise the difficult is just lazy. The main examples I can think of is rubber banding in racing games (computer opponents getting an artificial speed boost if they fall behind you) or simply giving you are handy cap (e.g Civilization 5 making it take longer for researching a tech our build something). The better way and more satisfying way would have been to make the computer opponents "better drivers" or the other civilizations having better AI and more tactically minded. In the end I simply haven't got a problem playing against a better opponent, I only have a problem when the playing field is skewed.
 
mickelboy182 said:
So I have to ask you, did you struggle with anything in DaS? I've played through it many times and I just don't see how you could struggle with anything other than O&S.
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I had a stupid amount of hardship with Capra Demon... but I think I just went in really under powered to begin with.

Four Kings and Blighttown weren't a whole lot of fun - in fact, the ruins gave me a ton of trouble aswell.

I also found that my build made Gwyn's strength hard to contain until I really mastered his moveset.
 
Gwyn fight is about using the boss room..
There is a mound of slightly raised rocks in the boss room. If you circle that mound ,gwyn gets on the mound and is basically above you and all his swings go over you.. Free hits!!!
 
CasuallyDressed said:
I had a stupid amount of hardship with Capra Demon... but I think I just went in really under powered to begin with.

Four Kings and Blighttown weren't a whole lot of fun - in fact, the ruins gave me a ton of trouble aswell.

I also found that my build made Gwyn's strength hard to contain until I really mastered his moveset.
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Capra Demon troubles a few people I guess, often because they die too quickly at the beginning to get the info they need.

Four Kings can be either ridiculously easy or hard depending on your build, a tank build makes a mockery of them, no challenge at all.

Gwyn is just all about the parry, learn to do that and you're golden.

Guess the moral of the story is that Dark Souls isn't so much crazy difficult, just something you need to think about and learn how to counteract certain bosses and enemies.
 
LukasTheGreat said:
If you guys haven't already - play the DS2 DLC. Sir Alonne is right up there with the best bosses of the series and the secret area of the final DLC is one of the most challenging sections of a soul's game.
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Will wait for the PS4 release! Heard amazing things about the DLC though.

On the topic of Bloodborne, anyone else struggling hard with temptation not to watch these let's plays popping up now? I have to play these games blind at least once BUT it's so tempting to want to see these videos!!
 
mickelboy182 said:
Capra Demon troubles a few people I guess, often because they die too quickly at the beginning to get the info they need.

Four Kings can be either ridiculously easy or hard depending on your build, a tank build makes a mockery of them, no challenge at all.

Gwyn is just all about the parry, learn to do that and you're golden.

Guess the moral of the story is that Dark Souls isn't so much crazy difficult, just something you need to think about and learn how to counteract certain bosses and enemies.
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Capra Demon came about when I just hadn't done enough grinding and he was smashing me early... now he's cake.

I very rarely use a tank build; more of a speedy, evasive build and I've never been great with the parry - even now after all this time as a souls player.

Dark Souls is hard, but everyone has trouble in different place. I was able to take out O&S easily enough because my character was quick enough to isolate Ornstein and also quick enough to evade Smough's stronger moves when he took Ornstein's power.

I know people who have struggled with Gaping Demon; it's just that sort of game.
 

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