Bluemour Melting Pot XX - Snark Free Zone

[Zlatan]

Imagine with all the assistance GC are getting from the AFL, that they end up losing Martin for nothing. Goes against everything that’s happening.

How would they justify losing a 2nd/future 2nd pick to “make a stand.” Fantasy stuff.

This is all early stage posturing. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[ShanDog]

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some breaking news from tom browne!

Hah. "Mock" spray. Sure, Tom. Sure.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

In what Universe do you consider Alirr so much better than CAS

One where I actually watch them both. Aliir is a genuine gun in the making. Casboult had half a good season.

 

[Funk]

Finally some commonsense from Tim Watson on SEN this morning


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Incapable........

 

[zeggie]

I think he is contracted till the end of 2021 but has a clause in his contract that he met allowing him to sign on till 2023. He doesnt have to sign on if he choses not to.

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I strongly suspect the "surprise discovery" of the 2+2 / 4 year contract has more to do with contract discussions between Carlton and Papley. Remember Papley only told Sydney less than a week ago.

I daresay we went in expecting a 3 year contract offer would win Paps over, his agent shares that Papley actually has a 2 year extension clause available to him on good $$, and is wanting a 4-5 year unconditional contract to move to Carlton.

Further, Sydney have also been re-signing Paps end of every single year which screams that they are backdating upon backdating his contract every year to keep under cap, just like they've been doing with several other players. He may have only been receiving cash money of ~300k a year for the last 2 years with the rest "promised" later. It would be very enticing for Paps to start reaping some of that money now rather than in 2-3 years time.

I definitely have no inside info, other than knowledge Sydney are definitely regularly re-signing and backdating player contracts, but the above is how I interpret the situation unfolding.

 

[Omega Blue]

It dadgum irritates me that good coast think they can get Hugh greenwood for pick 56 from Adelaide yet demand a first rounder for Martin.
They are statistically identical.

 

[Matty411]

Imagine with all the assistance GC are getting from the AFL, that they end up losing Martin for nothing. Goes against everything that’s happening.

How would they justify losing a 2nd/future 2nd pick to “make a stand.” Fantasy stuff.

This is all early stage posturing. Nothing more, nothing less.

Well said, Zlatan. Same goes for Betts 'disinterest' narrative of SOS. We want him, he wants us and we'll get him cheap. Just posturing - all too common this time of year. Crows already showed their hand early and have tried to backtrack ever since, so we've got them by the balls with Eddie and - given Jack is uncontracted and they're resetting the club - we're in a position of power with Jack, too.

Hah. "Mock" spray. Sure, Tom. Sure.

Probably gave him a taste of the ol' David Papley, if you don't mind.

 

[Blue Pride]

In other news I walked along the beach near some trees and was swooped by a magpie... make of it what you will

We’re getting Grundy!!!!

 

[teknodeejay]

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some breaking news from tom browne!

Probably a good thing I can’t read this clown’s tweets. Pretty sure he blocked me after I called him out on his Papley and North bollocks (quite politely too I must say) FIGJAM can’t stand being corrected. Parasite. Good on Mr Fantasia for giving him a spray.

 

[bluemahogany]

Sydney with that elite posturing

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Wth how is this guy a journo-.-

His old mans some kind of bigwig with previous links to a couple tv stations apparently.

 

[Blue and Silver]

AFLPA won't be happy with that contract structure.

I suspect there may be some advice going out to players regarding trigger clauses.

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[Blues90]

Sydney with that elite posturing

Ah well lol don't think it will matter in the end

 

[Gavstar]

AFLPA won't be happy with that contract structure.

I suspect there may be some advice going out to players regarding trigger clauses.

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Sounds like its contrary to the players agreement and potentially could raise concerns re validity of the contract.

 

[slashin_velvet]

AFLPA won't be happy with that contract structure.

I suspect there may be some advice going out to players regarding trigger clauses.

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Doesnt seem right - "play enough games and you'll get an automated locked in trigger". Surely if they wanted to tie him up, they could just offer a longer contract.

 

[Matty411]

Sydney with that elite posturing

Bless them, they're really pouring this on thick.

 

[Juddernaut08]

I would’ve also expected him to be fairly good as a small forward given his size agility and ability to dodge traffic but in close.

I believe he will become a very valuable player for us in time.

Also he's got that Michael Walters ability to kick a long goal even though he's a small bloke. Make no mistake, Fish is one of our biggest kicks for goal.

 

[TommyMcG]

Sydney with that elite posturing

Someone posted an excerpt from AFLPA rules somewhere that stated this was not allowed.

 

[Matty411]

Also he's got that Michael Walters ability to kick a long goal even though he's a small bloke. Make no mistake, Fish is one of our biggest kicks for goal.

Just needs to learn how to use that right peg, lest he end up like this truck trying to look for an option on his preferred side.

 

[Red_man2008]

Someone posted an excerpt from AFLPA rules somewhere that stated this was not allowed.

If that’s the case they could get themselves in serious trouble at Sydney and we may get him cheaper. All the better for Blue.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Someone posted an excerpt from AFLPA rules somewhere that stated this was not allowed.

AFL CBA 21.1(g) An AFL Club and a Player shall not include provision in a Standard Playing Contract which would entitle either party to unilaterally exercise an option to extend the term of a Player’s contract.

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017-2022-CBA.pdf

Page 31 of the PDF (page 24 of the document)

EDIT: Not a lawyer, but perhaps when both parties agree to a games trigger its not a "unilateral option" anymore. Both parties have agreed that they will extend on the basis of a particular number of games played prior to the event. I assume this is what is happening now with Casboult.

 

[T2B_]

Yeah, let’s trade fish who’s best mates with Crippa. Some people on here are clueless

Easy fixed - just trade Crippa as well

Pretty sure...

 

[zeeCFC]

Who cares how long Papley is contracted for? SOS and Agresta would have known his contract status for a long time. We're offering pick 9, that is already a suitable deal.

Confused why the media is even discussing this.

 

[Matty411]

AFL CBA 21.1(g) An AFL Club and a Player shall not include provision in a Standard Playing Contract which would entitle either party to unilaterally exercise an option to extend the term of a Player’s contract.

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017-2022-CBA.pdf

Page 31 of the PDF (page 24 of the document)

EDIT: Not a lawyer, but perhaps when both parties agree to a games trigger its not a "unilateral option" anymore. Both parties have agreed that they will extend on the basis of a particular number of games played prior to the event. I assume this is what is happening now with Casboult.

Same reason Casboult isn't automatically staying. He wants another year (is fair in requesting so after his year) so despite hitting the trigger, he could still leave and the contract could end there and then.

Who cares how long Papley is contracted for? SOS and Agresta would have known his contract status for a long time. We're offering pick 9, that is already a suitable deal.

Confused why the media is even discussing this.

I suspect the Anti-Carlton media contingent (SammyHeraldSun is one) are just unhappy that we're set to get good players come our way and are trying to sway/influence the narrative.

 

[BrownDog20]

It dadgum irritates me that good coast think they can get Hugh greenwood for pick 56 from Adelaide yet demand a first rounder for Martin.
They are statistically identical.

Adelaide lucky to get that for Hugh Greenwood. Ordinary footballer.