Bluemour Melting Pot XXII

[Bearded Carpenter]

Shit stirrer, just when we look like we have good news you go and burst the bubble.

Prick

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I think I can deal with watching Martin, Walsh & SPS silking it up next year.....

Just imagine if Paddy Dow can finally have the confidence and mindset to realize the type of player he can be next season too.

 

[thylacine60]

Oreo Cookie Crew

you said that.....

 

[bluemahogany]

Interesting we, on here think $600k a year for Ellis is far too much. But happy to pay the same amount for Martin who is literally still all potential.

Switch their careers, Martin would be a 2x premiership player and Brandon Ellis would barely be known to the average fan.

 

[KohPhi]

Switch their careers, Martin would be a 2x premiership player and Brandon Ellis would barely be known to the average fan.

And if my grandad was born with wheels he'd be a bike.

If they switched careers, Martin would be FA and we'd be calling him an 'overpaid Richmond hack' looking to cash in after winning 2 flags and Ellis would be the 'under achieving talent looking to rejuvenate his career' at the Blues I reckon.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

This year would be fine, and I will happily take one next year too.

For those accepting that Freo will definitely match, I am not so sure. Jackson and midfield regeneration may be more to their focus. Jackson, Robertson and
Rivers would be high in their ratings. Can't take them all, and they have a reasonable stock of small forward types. I am sure they would rather have the luxury of playing Walters forward than doing the grunt work inside.

No way I’d be passing up on Henry if I’m the dockers, try and trade down to get the extra top player if they can’t match the bid, they do have some good homegrown talent this year but imo his too good to pass up on... just on Walters he’s an absolute gun particularly forward but he’s a class act in the midfield as well he gives them another dimension... Love two of him..

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

One way to look at it is $500K/year (which is spot on), plus a $500K "signing bonus" for naming us and getting here for free. If we have the money in the cap short term, seems smart business.

 

[bluemahogany]

And if my grandad was born with wheels he'd be a bike.

If they switched careers, Martin would be FA and we'd be calling him an 'overpaid Richmond hack' looking to cash in after winning 2 flags and Ellis would be the 'under achieving talent looking to rejuvenate his career' at the Blues I reckon.

I'm not calling every richmond player an overpaid hack, just Ellis... and Jack Riewoldt

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Can see Martin being on something like the following.
Year 1- $1m
Year 2- $600k
Year 3- $600k
Year 4- $600k
Year 5- $600k

Total- $3.4
Average- $680k

League average will be $600k in 2-3 years...

 

[ferrisb]

Betts
Pitonet
Newnes
Martin
Pick 9

EAD

Assuming we get Martin in the PSD, we will have paid around pick 65 on average for each of those four players (Betts, Pittonet, Newnes, Martin).

If there was a highway, it would have been robbed...

 

[Coops93]

Can see Martin being on something like the following.
Year 1- $1m
Year 2- $600k
Year 3- $600k
Year 4- $600k
Year 5- $600k

Total- $3.4
Average- $680k

League average will be $600k in 2-3 years...

It's $3m over 5 years iirc, will be $1m year 1 then probably $500k the next 4.

In total it averages out to $600k a year.

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

you said that.....

I see the error of my way.
Deleted.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

It's $3m over 5 years iirc, will be $1m year 1 then probably $500k the next 4.

In total it averages out to $600k a year.

Wasn’t the report over $3m and average over $600k ??

 

[SOS must stay]

similar level players, one with a much bigger ceiling imo (jarrad waite mk ii?)

Whenever we are coming up to play GC there is always one player I check to see if they are playing and its Jack Martin.

Dont look at his whole career as its been with a side that regularly gets thumped. Look at his games against other poor teams. Its when gold coast play evenly matched teams like Carlton, its Martin's class that tears these teams apart.

He averages 19 disposals and a goal per game against Brisbane, Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle, North, St Kilda, Bulldogs in what have been mostly competitive games over the course of his career.

I look forward to see what he can do as a 25 year old in a Carlton team on the rise in 2020.He wont be the player making a bad team good, but if he gets to us and we are as good as we are thinking we are going to be, I think he will be the danger man for us.

 

[Coops93]

Wasn’t the report over $3m and average over $600k ??

I thought it was $3m with an average of $600k.

Edit You're right it says more, but not how much more. Slightly more than $1m this year with an average of slightly more than $600k so it's hard to say really what it is.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

And if my grandad was born with wheels he'd be a bike.

If they switched careers, Martin would be FA and we'd be calling him an 'overpaid Richmond hack' looking to cash in after winning 2 flags and Ellis would be the 'under achieving talent looking to rejuvenate his career' at the Blues I reckon.

Glad you said Grandad.

 

[KohPhi]

Glad you said Grandad.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Interesting we, on here think $600k a year for Ellis is far too much. But happy to pay the same amount for Martin who is literally still all potential.

Who do you rate as a better player & fit for our current list?

 

[fnm_just a man]

Comparing Ellis to Martin as similarly talented players FMD


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[AT97]

With Martin putting his terms in and has nominated the preseason draft. Does this mean Gold Coast aren’t able to delist him prior?

 

[SurreyBlue]

Comparing Ellis to Martin as similarly talented players FMD


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Not only that, he or she got likes...

 

[zeggie]

With Martin putting his terms in and has nominated the preseason draft. Does this mean Gold Coast aren’t able to delist him prior?

Correct. The nomination has essentially delisted himself via the process.

 

[zeggie]

Matched exactly iirc.

Incorrect. Money must be matched and paid exactly. TPP salary cap can be evened out over the length of the contract.

 

[Accidental genius]

Ellis chasing the biggest paycheck, Martin knocking back bigger offers from other clubs to play for us - I reckon one of those is more deserving of a slightly inflated contract.

Martin's made it abundantly clear that Carlton is the club he wants to play for. He committed, publicly, and GC made life difficult. So now we top up his contract a little to make sure Melbourne don't pilfer him against his wishes.

Good point BB. Amazing what difference that makes when a player categorically wants to play for your club. We should all embrace and welcome him with open arms.

 

[chunkylover53]

Not only that, he or she got likes...

Don’t be shitty my like to post ratio shits on yours.

I wasn’t saying Martin is less talented than Ellis, I was saying it’s funny how we praise our list management team for offering Martin well above market value yet laugh at Ellis for asking for the same amount.

Martin has achieved very, very little to date. And although Ellis has ridden the coat tails of his A-grade teammates, he was a first round pick in his own right and a decent player when Richmond were still average.

I don’t care, I’m glad Martin is locked away but the rose coloured glasses is funny.