Bluemour Melting Pot XXIX

[ferrisb]

I encourage everyone to get down to local footy, there’s some incredibly good games full of very talented footballers.

Best non AFL game I’ve ever seen was just a couple of weeks ago between Strathmore and Keilor in the EDFL, top of the table clash and the footy on show was exhilarating. Good bit of Barney to top it off to!!!
Going to be a ripping finals series in the EDFL, absolutely nothing between the top 3 or 4 teams.

I’m not down as much as others on AFL though, still plenty of exhilarating games and moments. Even last nights game after half time was bloody good to watch


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IDGAF what the footy looks like as long as Carlton is winning...

Now, just need to make that happen more often...

 

[17SetMeFree]

The sport itself hasn't lost me, the League that our team plays in lost me long ago.

AFL isn't the game.

AFL type football barely resembles Aussie Rules Football at it's best. It's lost the uniqueness which makes it just another predominantly boring football game.

The rule changes did it for me. The mannequin on the mark I don't like. Pressure on the kicker is gone
body below the knees gets abused, I prefer the kick in from the box.

one thing they could have done is, D50 backward pass = playon .
every year something changes, you'd think throwing was allowed in stoppages

 

[thylacine60]

Hey gents, more rumors, less boying.

yeah shutup though.......

 

[Wickzki]

I vividly recall attending a night game against North Melbourne during the Judd era where the narrative for the entire week going throughout all of the media was celebrating North's status as "Friday Night Specialists" Sure enough the match played out that way. Almost the entire night felt scripted to play out that way.

 

[Smegger]

The rule changes did it for me. The mannequin on the mark I don't like. Pressure on the kicker is gone
body below the knees gets abused, I prefer the kick in from the box.

one thing they could have done is, D50 backward pass = playon .
every year something changes, you'd think throwing was allowed in stoppages

If the AFL want less congestion/ ball ups then get rid of the No Prior rule. Player takes possession and can't break the tackle = HTB. The fake attempts to handball while being tackled are embarrassing for the game, IMO. Take the player/s on at risk or knock the ball on.

 

[blue healer]

If the AFL want less congestion/ ball ups then get rid of the No Prior rule. Player takes possession and can't break the tackle = HTB. The fake attempts to handball while being tackled are embarrassing for the game, IMO. Take the player/s on at risk or knock the ball on.

Isn't this what's supposed to happen anyway?

And I have to admit the theatre of the umpire delaying the whistle long enough to pay the free is just a joke.

 

[Smegger]

Isn't this what's supposed to happen anyway?

And I have to admit the theatre of the umpire delaying the whistle long enough to pay the free is just a joke.

Yes, supposed to but how many times do we see players play for the No Prior rule to kill play? It's become the newer version of stacks on (which they cracked down on with dragging the ball in).

Yes the delayed whistle is a joke, especially when it's after the players actually stop and expect it.

 

[17SetMeFree]

If the AFL want less congestion/ ball ups then get rid of the No Prior rule. Player takes possession and can't break the tackle = HTB. The fake attempts to handball while being tackled are embarrassing for the game, IMO. Take the player/s on at risk or knock the ball on.

dolphin flips, looks at the umpire, nothing, continues to dolphin flip = that's embarrassing

it almost AFL nature, new bloke comes in, lifts his leg, p1sses, that my mark, my rule change.

Best part of the game is when the cowards put away the whistle 10 minutes to go, in a close game , big crowd
worst is the first 10 minutes when the cowards blow for anything

 

[Meddy43]

I remember this. And remember feeling this same way. It was like we were never going to win it, no matter what.

 

[Smegger]

dolphin flips, looks at the umpire, nothing, continues to dolphin flip = that's embarrassing

it almost AFL nature, new bloke comes in, lifts his leg, p1sses, that my mark, my rule change.

Best part of the game is when the cowards put away the whistle 10 minutes to go, in a close game , big crowd
worst is the first 10 minutes when the cowards blow for anything

Question. Why can't all H&A games be umpired like finals?

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

The rule changes did it for me. The mannequin on the mark I don't like. Pressure on the kicker is gone
body below the knees gets abused, I prefer the kick in from the box.

one thing they could have done is, D50 backward pass = playon .
every year something changes, you'd think throwing was allowed in stoppages

You mean it’s not? Somebody best tell the Doggies...

 

[17SetMeFree]

Question. Why can't all H&A games be umpired like finals?

some are, because they're finals like
The inconsistencies / oddities are not lost on the commentators either, as they often comment " as long as they pay them all game through"

 

[choo]

Attended a lunch today at The Australian Club (I know, I know....terrible place).

Anyway....sat nearby Mark Korda. 3 things he was happy to disclose:

1. Collingwood will not be hiring Clarkson. Apparently 'they can't afford him'. (Not sure what that means...)
2. Sayers 'has been badgering Clarkson for months now'. Blues are still in his ear but Clarkson remains uncommitted.
3. No love lost between Korda and Eddie. He knows Eddie is trying to depose him and is right in Jeff Browne's corner.

1. Let’s say Clarkson’s contract for next year is 1.5mill.
2. Hawthorn would like the relief in their soft cap
3. A club would still have to stump up 1 mill even if hawthorn paid the balance.
4. Collingwood can’t pay a mill.
5 I hope Carlton can’t pay a mill


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[17SetMeFree]

1. Let’s say Clarkson’s contract for next year is 1.5mill.
2. Hawthorn would like the relief in their soft cap
3. A club would still have to stump up 1 mill even if hawthorn paid the balance.
4. Collingwood can’t pay a mill.
5 I hope Carlton can’t pay a mill


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didn't Mathieson say he'd stump up, only for clarko?

 

[azlou]

If the AFL want less congestion/ ball ups then get rid of the No Prior rule. Player takes possession and can't break the tackle = HTB. The fake attempts to handball while being tackled are embarrassing for the game, IMO. Take the player/s on at risk or knock the ball on.

It’s the only rule that would work umpires trying to read a players mind is ridiculous
That one change would take 90% of the ambiguity out of the game

 

[17SetMeFree]

I really hope our 32 year old and under fans’ experience of a Carlton premiership isn’t Once in a Lifetime

i distinctly remember in 2010 when pies won theirs, the absolute pure joy and elation on otherwise miserable joyless faces. The look was almost, I could die now, content.

 

[no fate]

I really hope our 32 year old and under fans’ experience of a Carlton premiership isn’t Once in a Lifetime

Absolutely. I'm still sure we'll come good, club has to be bold, yet smart and not too impatient. It's interesting, I'd seen 3 premierships and been alive for another as a young boy, remember the excitement of going to games just expecting to win, but my son at the same age can't even remember us playing in a final. When I tell him we'll come good, he rolls his eyes. You better believe we'll enjoy it when we do finally emerge into the sunlight!

 

[The Flying Doormat]

If the AFL want less congestion/ ball ups then get rid of the No Prior rule. Player takes possession and can't break the tackle = HTB. The fake attempts to handball while being tackled are embarrassing for the game, IMO. Take the player/s on at risk or knock the ball on.

Introduce a 3 second, 2 player rule.
Player takes possession has 3 seconds to dispose the ball.
If tackle is applied at 3 seconds or later, instant HTB.
If it's applied prior and not disposed by the 3 second mark, HTB.
Once a tackle is applied, only two players, the tackler and player possessing the ball allowed to be within a one metre radius.
3rd man in generates free kick to the opposition, irrespective of who is in possession or tackling.

This will reduce congestion, guesswork and speed the game up.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Introduce a 3 second, 2 player rule.
Player takes possession has 3 seconds to dispose the ball.
If tackle is applied at 3 seconds or later, instant HTB.
If it's applied prior and not disposed by the 3 second mark, HTB.
Once a tackle is applied, only two players, the tackler and player possessing the ball allowed to be within a one metre radius.
3rd man in generates free kick to the opposition, irrespective of who is in possession or tackling.

This will reduce congestion, guesswork and speed the game up.

3 full seconds is an age, that's longer than they have now.

 

[CarltonBlooz]

Right now Carlton fc is a club on its knees. We are a laughing stock of the AFL, other club supporters and slowly our own supporters are laughing and have had enough. If the club stuff this review/coaching process up it will be the final blow for so many

Previously yes, currently no, you stop caring about what other supporters think the older you get, if you don't you should.

I'm 28 and I recall getting wooden spoons in my school bag in the early 2000's, went from laughter to pity in the years that followed. But end of the day plenty of good memories seeing Fev live at the MCG, good god that campaigner was magnificent when it was his day.

Heaven forbid we bungle this up, membership will plummet but end of the day, the club will go on. We WILL get there one day, its just a matter of when.

I'm sure Richmond flogs thought the same and look at them now, it can change and when it does it will be quick.

I couldn't care less if we've been incredibly shitty for so long as long as we get there one day. Personally I'm in it to win flags, don't care how long they takes as long as we get there one day.

Once you start winning flags, opposition campaigners will shhhh pretty quickly if that bothers you.

You’re absolutely kidding yourself if you think otherwise. We are already losing the younger generation of supporters, middle age are giving up the older still live in the glory days..

Our rebuild is done and we look miles off it

Seems highly unrealistic to get young kids to buy into a team that's in the current position, we're in, but we're building and will get better.

Not sure how old you are, but all the times I've been to the footy, plenty of younger Carlton supporters around my age.

As I said above I'm 28, I was 2 when we had our last flag, yes its been incredibly shitty but stick fat with the baggers and it'll all be worth it one day.

You're following the wrong sport if you want success in a timely fashion, best case scenario you'd win a flag every 10-15 years, if you get REALLY lucky and everything goes together you might get more than one in short succession.

Yes, we ****ed up badly as a club over the past 20 years, but onwards and upwards, I'll cherish the day forever once I get my first grand final as a Blues supporter in person regardless of the result.

Been a member for 15 years and I won't be stopping anytime soon, terrible pencil cases or not that have zips that don't work.

#goblues

 

[Blue and Blue]

The sport itself hasn't lost me, the League that our team plays in lost me long ago.

AFL isn't the game.

AFL type football barely resembles Aussie Rules Football at it's best. It's lost the uniqueness which makes it just another predominantly boring football game.

Well said. Its true and only have to watch a country match for 5 minutes to see it.

 

[scblues]

Funny how most clubs doing well have depth OR not many injuries... we have 14 on our injury list... Still building depth.. if the world of AFL was even and say all clubs only had 3 injuries or so, I bet we would actually be doing ok,,

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Introduce a 3 second, 2 player rule.
Player takes possession has 3 seconds to dispose the ball.
If tackle is applied at 3 seconds or later, instant HTB.
If it's applied prior and not disposed by the 3 second mark, HTB.
Once a tackle is applied, only two players, the tackler and player possessing the ball allowed to be within a one metre radius.
3rd man in generates free kick to the opposition, irrespective of who is in possession or tackling.

This will reduce congestion, guesswork and speed the game up.

I often wonder what would happen if we went back to 1978 and got rid of the ‘Kevin Bartlett’ rule.

Prior to this you could ‘bounce’ the ball to avoid being tackled and penalties for holding the ball.

When they bought in the rule it does the game up but I often think now that when you get the ball now in a tight situation you basically have no choice but to draw the tackle which creates the congestion.

In the old days if you got the ball and we’re confronted by one of two tacklers you could think and finesse your way around them and kind of come out the other side.

It will never happen I know.


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[The Blue Weirdo]

If the AFL want less congestion/ ball ups then get rid of the No Prior rule. Player takes possession and can't break the tackle = HTB. The fake attempts to handball while being tackled are embarrassing for the game, IMO. Take the player/s on at risk or knock the ball on.

It could lead to a situation where a group of players surrounding the stationary ball with no one prepared to grab it for fear of being penalised. lol. A bit like the last man to touch the ball before it crosses the boundary line infringement rule they once considered, where players watched the ball trickle towards the line hoping to gain a free.

 

[Manhattanite]

i distinctly remember in 2010 when pies won theirs, the absolute pure joy and elation on otherwise miserable joyless faces. The look was almost, I could die now, content.

Since 1958, Collingwood have won just two flags and yet have won a total of 15. Since 1958, Hawthorn have won 13 flags. Between their first flag in 1961 and last in 2015, Hawthorn averaged a flag every 4 years. Our peaks were 1968-82 - 6 flags over 15 seasons - and 1906-15 with 5 flags in 10 seasons.

Since we last won in 1995 our main nemeses have only won one each - in 2000 and 2010. Not sure how many fans the big 3 are bleeding but Collingwood have been more competitive for longer and in more finals series so probably doing alright compared to us and *

It’s hard to win flags in the current AFL so hopefully the club continues to improve in how it’s run so we don’t add another 26 years to the current drought. By the time I was 16 I had been alive for 5 flags. A 25 year old Blues fan has seen none.





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