Bluemour Melting Pot XXV

[Aphrodite]

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Bluemour Melting Pot XXVI

As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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[FairKouta]

Well it depends. Do you consider ajs071 ITK?

Not in the same vien as

 

[bmaurizio]

Not to mention it can be demoralising for a young man to go from being top dog at junior level, to then come crashing back down to earth when you get to the big leagues.

Sometimes having that much confidence can work against you, at least until you reach your perceived potential.

I hope the club doesn't give up on him.

I can’t understand why recruiters would not do the due diligence and discover issues or flaws in potential player characters that might lead to problems like integration and assimilation to an AFL team environment.
If a player is immature and unprepared to handle the rigors and demands of AFL environment they are not ready for selection.

 

[Crippablues]

They seem to be a pretty proactive club aswell...prob comes from always having to fight for what they have being the much smaller club in a two club town.

Gray and Boak need to be replaced also.

Even more a reason to keep Wines

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[katmanblue]

Think they have whatsapp groups as well

I remember talk a while back of Backman group with all the defenders in it. One of the new additions to the backline spoke about being included. This was maybe 2 years back.

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[PDP_Shazza]

I don’t think Degoey fits our club, he’s obviously a great player but I will be relieved when he re-signs at Collingwood.

 

[8Special K]

I’m not sure if the talk of dodo asking for pick 7 and one of TDK, Walsh or Curnow is true because even by his standards it’s pretty unbelievable but if it is the case then I have no problem with letting him walk to the psd for free.
People will argue that it’s not good will to do that but in my opinion dodo has lost all privileges of a fair deal if he has asked for that. I don’t want Essendon to get any compensation for this and I think after the ridiculous asking other clubs won’t have a problem with that.

 

[Sheephead]

It's not that he rubs the players up the wrong way, he is just not fitting in.

Well that is COMPLETELY different to the spin that was put on it initially. Crippa, Doc, leadership group - do your job.

 

[lukep_86]

If the rumours about Dodo's demands are true, we should tell him and the Bombers to GAGF and let Saad walk to the PSD.
Is Saad a good player? 100%
Is he worth anything close to what Dodo is allegedly asking? Definitely not!

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[BrownDog20]

Well it depends. Do you consider ajs071 ITK?

Definitely not

 

[Milshouse]

I think we need another year to make a call. 2020 was a write off for Dow and LOB in terms of senior progression. They need a year to push their case, games won't be gift wrapped though.

I see no problem with our young group building form and fitness through the reserves, injuries and form will allow game time if they are ticking boxes in the 2's

 

[Milshouse]

Name a big fish thats went to another club and won a flag. It doesn't always eventuate

Tom lynch

 

[Accidental genius]

the way the stocker draft happened how much due diligence would we have done? the way sos was fist pumping it would seem we did a bit even though he wasnt one of our main targets.

 

[AB_Blue]

the way the stocker draft happened how much due diligence would we have done? the way sos was fist pumping it would seem we did a bit even though he wasnt one of our main targets.

Our recruitment team rated him in the top 10

I reckon the fist bump was more in celebration of getting the live trade done.

Basically gave us an extra pick in the top 20 for what turned out to be only a small downgrade into next year


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[Sheephead]

Just want to make a point. Don’t shade on Stocker and Dow and LOB. It’s not their fault they were picked in the first round. They were all rated at the time, so please don’t give me, we missed on Serong, we missed on Cerra, etc. It’s all speculative. Sam Mitchell, James Hird anyone.

The current Premier on top of the Buddy and Roughy wiff, selected Ben Griffiths one pick before Nat Fyffe, Ben Lennon one pick before Crippa, and on the flip side, gave up a first for Yaz. Even the legendary teams have fluffed on the way through.

It’s disappointing if they fail, awesome if they succeed, but in the end, it’s not completely their own fault. We do not have to pick them. Give them all a break, and they are young, give them some time. Everyone said Prestia was a fail, um, no.

And the poster who put up the Petracca example of a slow burn, exactly. He was almost traded, how did that work out. Jack Watts and Jack Trengove are where? There’s a million examples of fails.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Stocker for Saad + change

 

[myblueroan]

I take it Fisher’s up next?

I heard he roller skates....


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1.Always talking about his net worth. 2.Complains about how he was given brother's cast-offs as a kid.
3. Likes pop music 'cos of all the hooks
4. Fishers for compliments
5. Loves line-dancing
6. ?

 

[myblueroan]

I remember posts here after Stockers first month at the club that he had rubbed seniors players up the wrong way.

His kicking off both sides was very good when he played, would be a shame if we lost him for nothing and he becomes a good player elsewhere.

Otherwise, part of Dees trade...

 

[RAPPA]

Just want to make a point. Don’t shade on Stocker and Dow and LOB. It’s not their fault they were picked in the first round. They were all rated at the time, so please don’t give me, we missed on Serong, we missed on Cerra, etc. It’s all speculative. Sam Mitchell, James Hird anyone.

The current Premier on top of the Buddy and Roughy wiff, selected Ben Griffiths one pick before Nat Fyffe, Ben Lennon one pick before Crippa, and on the flip side, gave up a first for Yaz. Even the legendary teams have fluffed on the way through.

It’s disappointing if they fail, awesome if they succeed, but in the end, it’s not completely their own fault. We do not have to pick them. Give them all a break, and they are young, give them some time. Everyone said Prestia was a fail, um, no.

And the poster who put up the Petracca example of a slow burn, exactly. He was almost traded, how did that work out. Jack Watts and Jack Trengove are where? There’s a million examples of fails.

Definitely a sound point. For me personally though, the frustration lies in our inability (and for quite a long time) to develop young players from the time of their drafting. That’s the bit that stinks for me.

 

[Curnivore]

The Western Bulldogs were handing out free 3 game memberships at uni 15 years ago.

I put down doctor as my title and you're right when the membership came in the mail (and the subsequent 500 letters asking me to sign up the following years) I felt quite proud of myself for my Dr title.

I'm proud of you too.

 

[Blue and Blue]

1.Always talking about his net worth. 2.Complains about how he was given brother's cast-offs as a kid.
3. Likes pop music 'cos of all the hooks
4. Fishers for compliments
5. Loves line-dancing
6. ?

Heard he once put his left leg in the right leg of his pyjamas.....Sakc

 

[reubs1066]

What Diesel should have done is discussed with him privately rather than put it out in the public domain for everyone to try interpreting his motives.
I think it's just Diesel's old school approach which is meant to motivate, that is fine with certain personality types but with others can be a disaster too.

Being a club great doesn't automatically validate your opinion of a current player either.

Dow's young he still has time, his problem is that we were forced to throw him in and play him straight away through necessity. It may have set his development back rather than advance it. People really need to learn to have patience with the younger players and give them time.

You sound like a participation award type.

 

[reubs1066]

Meh f* all this social media bs. I want Stocker and Kemp to come good, cause that Adelaide pick swap cost us the chance to draft Serong.

These days they have a swag of line coaches, assistants and specialists.

I have no doubt they have systems in place to iron out personality issues or conflicts!

As many have commented, hardly the first time!

 

[reubs1066]

Dow, Stocker etc are 20yo.

Still growing and learning as young men and as people.

Finding/sorting out their place in the world and (no doubt) at CFC.

Plenty way too willing to hammer them without knowing sfa about all the facts.

Both can still become elite players.

Bring on some more trade rumours.

This eating our own really sucks.

 

[Milshouse]

We've got 5 years of hope sitting on our list. I think enough of them are gonna make us a bloody good side for a 6-8 year run. That group also badly need 2 primeage topliners to assist them. Beside Docherty and Cripps, we have none of them.

Pick 7 was like gold for us for five years. Now, if it takes most of Pick 7 to land one of those primeagers, so be it. Of course we try to maximise it's value as much as possible, but we won't be getting too cute imo.

Weitering, walsh, martin, mackay, c curnow

 

[raymagoo]

That you, Ryan?

hes the best journo by a mile imo. The only one I have t blocked