Bluemour Melting Pot XXVI

[The Old Dark Navy's]

As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/

Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their rumour files.

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As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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[GoBlues!]

I hate everything about * and always will.
So I'm trying hard not to let that cloud my judgement on the whole pick 8 thing.

 

[Wickzki]

Which seems odd given we are in need of another quality midfielder, unless there is some truth to Oliver wanting to come to us and its just we don't think we have what is needed to get him here (as has been suggested previously)?.

On Dunkley I think it's more so that we know that the Dogs have no desire to trade him, the only currency we have to give them is a pick that is essentially meaningless to them (would be swallowed by JUH), and to push the issue would potentially burn bridges in the short-to-medium term. Dodoro pushing the issue there is going to sour a relationship and make the Dogs not willing to trade with them as freely moving forward.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

On Dunkley I think it's more so that we know that the Dogs have no desire to trade him, the only currency we have to give them is a pick that is essentially meaningless to them (would be swallowed by JUH), and to push the issue would potentially burn bridges in the short-to-medium term. Dodoro pushing the issue there is going to sour a relationship and make the Dogs not willing to trade with them as freely moving forward.

How long does Dodoro last at * then?

 

[Blue and Silver]

A Pies fan elsewhere all but confirming TCP.

Collingwood looking to see if we can get them salary relief for pick swaps if it helps us get Saad done.

They don't like Dodoro's silly games, need to get salary cap relief, and strategizing with the "our enemy of our enemy..." tactics

Getting them salary relief = taking a player?

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[Wickzki]

Getting them salary relief = taking a player?

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There were no specifics but not necessarily. May involve one of their players going to Dodoro.

Personally, I'd think a plausible tactic might be "Hey, Adrian. You're losing Saad. How about we help you replace him with Phillips?"

Then what zeeCFC has suggested with pick swaps that help the Pies now.

A trade could look under for the Pies but if they're in the hole as clearly as they are they may look at a dump as a win in itself.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

There were no specifics but not necessarily. May involve one of their players going to Dodoro.

I think I saw that Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

is set to get $600k next year. Wowee.

 

[Aphrodite]

Collingwood have a father and son very highly rated for next year don't they? Maybe trading out of next year to get 8 this year

They sure do.

Nicholas Daicos.

 

[bmaurizio]

Getting them salary relief = taking a player?

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Shivering a bit, however like the out of the box approch, could be a positive outcome.
I'm confident, Austin & Agrestia will be a very effective negotiating team.

 

[myblueroan]

A Pies fan elsewhere all but confirming TCP.

Collingwood looking to see if we can get them salary relief for pick swaps if it helps us get Saad done.

They don't like Dodoro's silly games, need to get salary cap relief, and strategizing with the "our enemy of our enemy..." tactics

 

[bmaurizio]

They sure do.

Nicholas Daicos.

Yup an will become an absolute gun, easily top 10 in a strong draft pool 2021.

 

[NYCFC]

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Was there in 93. Still haven't recovered.

 

[katmanblue]

Trying to be pragmatic, Oliver is a slightly lesser version of Cripps.
What would you consider fair compensation for Cripps?
IMO It'd take a kings ransom of assets heading the other way for the deal to be done.

We only have one Cripps. Melbourne have three or four that could take up the main man mantle (Viney, Brayshaw, Petracca or Oliver). Means they can cover easier.

 

[BlueJet]

Why is it rubbish ?
Everyone here wants Oliver, Wines, Merrett, Taranto, etc etc
Why are our players immuned ?

It's not how Bigfooty works, everyone wants to join your club and the opposition will accept unders to facilitate the deal, meanwhile, the opposition will willingly pay overs for a supporter approved fringe player.

 

[blue healer]

Funny you say that - I used to always say 'I hate Essendon' but as I've got older realised the futility (and idiocy) in having such emotions around a sport and so have forcibly tried to stop myself from saying it.

It's petty I agree, shouldn't be saying it BUT nothing at all stopping you from thinking it and even sometimes expressing your thoughts.

 

[Treesloth]

Let your hate go, you'll feel much better about life.

At this stage I think fans of any club hate * these days. It’s just part of following AFL as a sport.

It’s not possible to not hate them. On a petty and spiteful personal level, I would gladly deal with the Pies if it means we can stick it to Dodo

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

FWIW SOS said on SEN in response to a caller that Dow for Saad would be a fair swap.

You'd jump on that deal every day of the week.

 

[BlueJet]

We only have one Cripps. Melbourne have three or four that could take up the main man mantle (Viney, Brayshaw, Petracca or Oliver). Means they can cover easier.

It doesn't mean that they accept a lesser deal for a valued commodity, particularly given there'd be no shortage of suitors.
Flipping it, we have 2x kpf and the Dees arguably none, do we accept unders for either Charlie or Harry because we can more easily cover one of their departures?
Answer: ****. NO.

 

[BlueBogan]

If we're pick swapping with the scum, I'd be doing whatever it takes to still be able to get Oliver in this year. When a year passes, players can change their minds very easily

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Yep. Has there every been a time where we miss out on a player and I see "and next year we go for this player.... " that has actually happened.

 

[sweethoney]

284 pages at the moment, watch this thread get to 400 tomorrow when things start happening

What’s tomorrow?

 

[BringBackSimmo]

What’s tomorrow?

Wednesday

 

[sweethoney]

Wednesday

All day?

 

[BringBackSimmo]

All day?

That is generally the case, yes.

 

[Aphrodite]

What’s tomorrow?

Trade Period starts tomorrow.

 

[RPCB]

I hate everything about * and always will.
So I'm trying hard not to let that cloud my judgement on the whole pick 8 thing.
I tend to think that if we're going to get ourselves into Premiership contention, our improvement won't be linear.
Just a gut feeling, but I think this group needs some kind of shock to the system.
A period of rapid improvement that instills belief, and has the whole organization shaking off two decades of poor performance, where most seasons we haven't even been good enough to be mediocre.

So paying 'too much' for two or three players (either in terms of salary or draft currency) who are at the age and performance level to bring that to the team, is something I'm ok with.

I worry that banking on gradual linear progression won't be enough, and this is the time to really invest. And a couple of players who we've given up a little too much for could give us a return beyond their individual performances, and a return that lasts beyond their playing careers.

I just wish Saad wasn't coming from a team I despise with every fibre of my being.

You won’t have any issues fitting in around here.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Trade Period starts tomorrow.

Oh that too.