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My better half thinks she is going....this could get ugly......

Its alright, just let her continue thinking that until you work out how many tickets you can obtain.

You will either get enough so she can go, which is great, not get any so neither of you can go, which sucks but hey, at least you avoided an argument, or you can both work towards getting tickets and you double your chances of getting one, at which point you get to go to the football and then have a holiday on a mates couch.

Sounds like a Win:Loss:Win to me .......... ;)
 
My thoughts on that is that he will be brought in to learn the craft and groomed as a direct Buddy replacement.
About 8 years until Buddy runs out of contract, has time
 
My thoughts on that is that he will be brought in to learn the craft and groomed as a direct Buddy replacement.

Think you're overrating the signing a bit.

Very late signing for someone who they'd rate quite that highly. Look at how many players our VFL side has signed for example and multiply that by the number of clubs looking at players and it shows out how far down the pecking order he is.

I'd like you to be right. They've got a good track record with developing players so if anyone can extract the potential from him it'd be them.
 
Think you're overrating the signing a bit.

Very late signing for someone who they'd rate quite that highly. Look at how many players our VFL side has signed for example and multiply that by the number of clubs looking at players and it shows out how far down the pecking order he is.

I'd like you to be right. They've got a good track record with developing players so if anyone can extract the potential from him it'd be them.
I suspect they’d probably had a last minute gamble (which isn’t going to cost them much) after the Daniher coup fell apart, while Buddy is still there for a couple of more years.

I’m sure being given a chance at another club, without the distraction of ‘being a Silvagni amongst Silvagni’s’ , as well as being a bit more mature, he will have a decent crack.
 
Let’s be realistic, Ben Silvagni is probably going to be a serviceable player at the seconds level. Good luck to him. Some are late bloomers.


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Yep imagine cutting Jeremy McGovern at BSOS age..... he had still a year and half to go before he got a game.
 
Yep imagine cutting Jeremy McGovern at BSOS age..... he had still a year and half to go before he got a game.

Probably have been many examples of players who have taken a few years to develop but one hopes that, after working with him for 2 years, the club is in the best position to assess both his potential and application and has made their decision based on this.

Drawing a long bow if someone was to suggest that his name is why he was delisted by Carlton. Think we're a little better than that.
 

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Yep imagine cutting Jeremy McGovern at BSOS age..... he had still a year and half to go before he got a game.

Also anecdotally it does seem that the sons of former players tend to take a bit longer to come along - sometimes several years into their careers before they truly show what they are capable of eg Ablett, Josh Kennedy, Tom Mitchell, McGovern, Rance, Scarlett and I guess Heath Shaw


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Also anecdotally it does seem that the sons of former players tend to take a bit longer to come along - sometimes several years into their careers before they truly show what they are capable of eg Ablett, Josh Kennedy, Tom Mitchell, McGovern, Rance, Scarlett and I guess Heath Shaw


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I think you'll find that it's silly to cut a KPP like BSOS before a good 3-4 years in the system.

Not comparing him to Weiters, but take a look at him. Only in his 4th or so year in the system did he become quite dominant over opposition forwards.

Unfortunately with COVID and list cuts, guys like Phillips and BSOS didn't get the opportunities they deserved.
 
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I think you'll find that it's foolish to cut a KPP like BSOS before a good 3-4 years in the system, even if he wasn't to get a game.

Not comparing him to Weiters, but take a look at him. Only in his 4th or so year in the system did he become quite dominant over opposition forwards.

Unfortunately with COVID and list cuts, guys like Phillips and BSOS didn't get the opportunities they deserved.

You cant just gift players 3-4 years in the system if you know after 1-2 that they are no chance. Attitude also has a big say in the decision as well. He was behind in development when we drafted him, hence the late pick used for him. Didnt show anything in 2 years on the list. For me, he was cut straight away clearly shows that it wasnt right to warrant a new contract. Hope he does well but players need to show something for clubs to offer contracts in their 3rd/4th years. KPP or not. Even TDK showed plenty in his first two years for the club to be excited about.
Weiters was playing seniors from the start. You could easily see the talent. Just struggled in defence in 2018 when we won 2 games. Toughest position in one of the clubs worst years ever. Now has the body and confidence to play consistently.
Hope BSOS does well but i would be surprised if he got on an AFL list again


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You cant just gift players 3-4 years in the system if you know after 1-2 that they are no chance. Attitude also has a big say in the decision as well. He was behind in development when we drafted him, hence the late pick used for him. Didnt show anything in 2 years on the list. For me, he was cut straight away clearly shows that it wasnt right to warrant a new contract. Hope he does well but players need to show something for clubs to offer contracts in their 3rd/4th years. KPP or not. Even TDK showed plenty in his first two years for the club to be excited about.
Weiters was playing seniors from the start. You could easily see the talent. Just struggled in defence in 2018 when we won 2 games. Toughest position in one of the clubs worst years ever. Now has the body and confidence to play consistently.
Hope BSOS does well but i would be surprised if he got on an AFL list again


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I just think I saw something in BSOS. He was regularly getting lots of praise in the reserves scratch matches last year, but of course they didn't mean anything. Once you consider there was very little room for development in 2020, and he had a season ending injury too, they're just an unfortunate series of events capped off with COVID as a whole. A sh*t year for everyone really.
 
I said it about his dad and I'll say it about him. Get me Daicos.
Not. Going. To. Happen.

Dealing with Dodo would not be enough to prepare us for what the filth would want for Daicos.
 
I said it about his dad and I'll say it about him. Get me Daicos.


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Also anecdotally it does seem that the sons of former players tend to take a bit longer to come along - sometimes several years into their careers before they truly show what they are capable of eg Ablett, Josh Kennedy, Tom Mitchell, McGovern, Rance, Scarlett and I guess Heath Shaw


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No more than the usual of development for young players, looking at that list. Also a bit hard to assess given the blanket 3rd round pick compensation for a lot of them.

Tom Mitchell was a gun junior, but got injured in his first year and made up a bit of ground in his second season.

Shaw was a good player from pretty early on, Scarlett was advanced for a key defender, Kennedy took a while to build into the player he’d eventually become... Rance went through the usual tribulations of key defender.

Ablett kind of coasted for a few years, his potential was obvious from the beginning.

McGovern undoubtedly was a late bloomer and needed some development in the WAFL before making his way into league footy.

Shane Tuck was one who initially struggled when he was drafted, but made a name at Richmond.
 
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