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Tom Morris just said Voss hasn’t even been told he’s got job (same with Kingsley)


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It's Voss.

It's not Voss.

It's Voss.

It's not Voss...yet.

Farkin media I swear.
 
Broadside nailed it - Cook will put the right people around our next coach (Vossy or otherwise) to make them succeed in a sustainable way.

Would love having skinny Lappin back at the club, and a trio of Voss, Black and Power would give our young players a heap to aspire to in terms of winning culture (not to mention the media a shit ton of content to drivel about).

Hopefully we find out this week either way. I'm not sure some of us will survive until October at this rate.
 
Can all these Voss haters explain why they are so against him and why the prospect of him being coach is so underwhelming? Are you basing this on his time at Brisbane?

Really struggle to understand some of the posters on here. The club has gone on record to say they want an experienced coach (most supporters would agree)

Clarkson - the man is entitled to a year off and unfortunately the timing didn't work out but is he really the "messiah"? People tend to forget the Hawks dynasty was build on drafting and savvy free agents and good run with injuries.

Ross- He thought he has a Clarkson resume and expected to walk into the job. Giving the role to him would have shown this club hasn't learned its lesson.
 
Has there ever been a coach who previously was a failure as a senior coach, got turfed, was then a long time assistant to a coach who has won nothing who then went onto another club and won a flag as senior coach?
Probably not but the coaching landscape is much different these days.

More of a combined effort by a group of specifically skilled people.

The great premiership coaches of the 70’s, 80’s & 90’s might struggle to have the technical knowledge or the ability to manage many of the required areas of today’s game so comparing past era’s is just too difficult.
 
I actually think that Hird would have made an excellent coach in another lifetime. We will never know now.
Call this surface criticism, but I don't know how much value there is in picking a head coach from the top tier of players. They then get their list of 45, and tell them 'Go do what I used to do every week!', then wonder why they're not up to it.

The majority of players you're going to get aren't going to be A++ players. You're not going to get Voss, Hird, Black, Akermanis, Bradley, Williams with more than 1 in 45 picks (and that's if you're very, very lucky) so your message and strategy can't be 'just go out there and be better than your opponent'. You've got to have 'never let him get goalside of you', 'sit on his right shoulder if he's right handed, to force his non-dominant hand to mark the ball', 'make sure he knows you're there by screaming at him every time he goes near the ball, and I'll get every player to scream in the exact same way so that when you rattle his jaw he thinks it's you every subsequent time he's tackled'; you've got to have actual methods for lesser players to take that step up and make themselves better. The best players, they're usually more talented, so they don't have those strategies; it was enough for them to just be better. They didn't need the methods by which someone like Mitch Robinson, Joel Corey, Sam Mitchell, Levi Casboult et al found ways to make what they could do work.

You need to be able to appeal and speak to the bottom of your list. You can't just talk to your top 4-10 players, then wonder why your team is losing to a coach whose team first mantra has both more appeal and more effectiveness.

I don't know James Hird, but he's a bloke who from all reports was hidden from other clubs as a junior, entered into the Essendon setup as royalty, and went on to be a saviour of their club in 2000. He was a reason for their fans to watch the game, because he played it on another level. I don't see how that translates to a coach who can appeal to the bottom or middle of a list, who can supply tactics or methods you can use to beat your direct opponent; I don't see how he's going to accept any less of what Nathan Buckley accepted as head coach of Collingwood: "Just go out there, and do what I did."
 
Ffs I can HEAR him say that

"Sayers loads up Diesel with Cook, takes aim, has a crack at Clarko before deciding on Vossy. Talk about exclamation mark! Ohhh they're gonna be something aren't they those Blues? "

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Can all these Voss haters explain why they are so against him and why the prospect of him being coach is so underwhelming? Are you basing this on his time at Brisbane?

There has been plenty in this thread, maybe read before asking the question? Gee whiz.
 
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